billywallstreet73

I think in the next two months we are going to start to see a lot better times in the quarter.The temperatures will be dropping and so will the timeslips.Most guys times are from the summer heat and thats a hp killer.Another reason to get better times to show up is the fact that we are putting some miles on the engine and if your car is like mine,then your motor is really waking up.I have noticed a big difference going from 2k miles to now 7k.The third reason is just getting more seat time with our cars.The 6 spds are very tricky to launch and everyone needs practice to get 2.0 and under in the 60ft.I think for the most part cars are running a little disappointing so far for the norm ,but thats really not surpising considering the hot,humid summer timeslips.I think there will be alot more smiles with the november timeslips.With ideal conditions and really good driving ,I expect to see a few forum members hitting low 12s stock in a 6spd.It can be done,but not by most.With just a tune and intake and perfect conditions,high 11's really are a possibility for a few lucky drivers.My rule from 16 years of quarter racing is to expect to run about 3 tenths faster in the cooler months compared to the summer heat.Im waiting till november to take my car to moroso here in south florida just because I know ill be disappointed if I went now.

'06 Quicksilver Z06

For the guys interested in running the quarter, my expectations are very much in line with your own.

Worthy of mention is that there is a whole new crop of C6 drivers coming along with the 2006 cars. There have already been a few 12.4s in the Z51 MN6 '05s under less than optimum weather conditions. I would not be surprised if we saw at least a few more of those and even better in a bone stock C6 this fall, winter or early spring. I feel that it is inevitable with the power/acceleration the C6 with that particular option package has. My gut feeling is that it will be a MN6 Z51 however which will post the best time..

As an observer I must say that I am interested in the bone stock times. Not too interested in what guys can run in modded cars.

zippin zee

I also am interested in the stock times for these cars. My car is not completely stock as I have had the torque management removed. But my times will be completely stock except for this mod right down to the paper filter. Well and I may add a dte brace to the transmission as I have lost one rearend case already. I am looking for a low 12 out of my car in the right weather conditions.

CTVette05

The only problem with that is how many people are going to be honest when they say their car is bone stock. I've noticed a big difference in my C6 auto with more miles and more favorable weather conditions. I ran 12.3's today @ 112mph. Just by the time slip I ca see that it will run 12.2's to 12.1's with optimal conditions. I'm at 2200 mile now and the car just keeps getting meaner with the more driving that I do. I won't be doing any computer changes because it doesn't appear to be necessary.

'06 Quicksilver Z06

I figure at least as many as say they ran 11s in bone stock C5 Z06s

What modifications, if any, have been done to your car?

If it is bone stock then you have made the quickest claim so far.

zippin zee

The reason I had the torque management removed was you could not launch the car without bogging it 2.20 60' were average and I have done a 1.95 60 since having it removed and I believe 1.80's are possible on a little sticker track.

cerino2000

I don't think you will be dissappointed. Moroso is one of the best tracks. Right at sea level. FLC6 got his automatic into the mid 12's at that track.

This is going to be one of the few times that I am waiting in anticipation for the cold weather to hit and it is for the sake of the strip.

CTVette05

No I have mods. I wouldn't like to BS anyone anymore than I would like to be BS'd. I have Dynatech Headers with high flow cats, X pipe, Corsa Sport Exhaust, Vortech air induction system with a 160 thermostat. My time slip reads as followed:

R/T - .089
60 - 1.904
330 - 5.278
1/8 - 8.004
mph - 90.67
1000 - 10.365
1/4 - 12.371
mph - 112.29

I'm limited with the EMT tires so I can't get into the gas as quickly as I would like to. It hazes the tires now so I think low 1.9's high 1.8's is most likely the best I'll be able to get out of these tires. Plus the track where I was running is not the quickest track. Lebanon Valley, NY. I modded my car strictly from info on the forums. If you can weed through the BSers there is a lot of great info from some very good and knowledgeable people.

'06 Quicksilver Z06

Sounds about right for a C6 automatic with just headers and a breather. You have 3.15s or 2.73s?

Here is what it took for me to make it to 12.3 in my A4 C5:


2003 EBM A4 C5... Vararam, 170* stat, KOOKS headers, x pipe, high flow cats, 3.42 gears, ProTorque 2600 stall, HPTuners, Cartek Line Lock, BFG P315/30R/18 drag radials,

60'..........1.842
330........5.154 secs
1/8........7.908 secs
MPH.......88.27
1000......10.316 secs
1/4.......12.336 secs
MPH......112.06

Density Altitude 1023 feet

Granted I had a few things that you don't have. I had a Vararam, arguably the best system out there from a performance standpoint for the C5, I had a line lock, torque converter, 3.42 gears and drag radials with plenty of meat on them, and a wide contact patch, they were 30s, and a very good tune.

Jf you had all that you'd be at 12.0. So with an automatic with just headers and a breather 12.3 sounds about right especially with the GM and magazine reported times of 12.7, 12.8.

CTVette05

I had a 1999 C5 with your same mods minus the torque converter and line lock and it went 12.55. I found it easier for the C6 to obtain faster times with less. I have 3:15 gears in the C6. I started at 13.02 on a 90 degree day with my C6 stock so the books are about right on their claims of 12.7, 12.8 under the right weather conditions.

'06 Quicksilver Z06

You know, I was very skeptical about the "torque management" issue with regard to the MN6 C6s.

But after reading this thread, I am thorougly convinced that torque management exists on the MN6s and is quite prohibitive.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1&page=1&pp=20

The folks at LGM started with a stock Z51 M6 car that
base line showed 341.7 RWHP / 326.0 RWTQ

Went with headers and the LS 2 edit and went to 369.6 RWHP /370.4 RWTQ

A whopping 44.4 ft/lbs of RWTQ with just headers and tuning. Thats huge and leads me to believe that there probably more torque to be had through tuning to begin with.

Then added the Halltech breather and went to 375.0 RWHP TQ = 375.2 RWTQ

A gain of 49.2 ft/lbs of RWTQ with headers, breather and programming to include reduction of torque management.

Maybe they had to be aggressive with the torque management as people are already busting stuff. And unfortunately zippinzee, up above, is not the first one.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...34&forum_id=49

FLC6

I love Moroso!

I am looking for mid 11's in Nov!

16Again

Me too Now come out and race with us. Satuday evening we race again at Moroso C'mon James, you have not been with us since NX installed the pipeline. I want to see her run.
Bob

billywallstreet73

What do you think my car can run at moroso in cooler weather.Seems like a good track at low elevation.Ive always raced at norwalk in ohio which had a great track with much cooler temps. My car is a 6spd non z51 coupe with bullets,stinger and tune.Im hoping for mid 12s to start with in good weather and low 12s with practice and optimal conditions.Is that do able at moroso's track? Im a pretty good driver,but I dont powershift.(to much stress)

nastyC6

I have run my completly stock c6 at Englishtown in 85 degree weather.best time was 13.15 at 108 mph..just to get a base line.

zippin zee

NastyC6 is your car auto or 6speed? What were the 60'.

sscamaro

I was in Bowling Green a week ago and ran at Beech Bend, not the ideal track. I turned 12.7@114. 60' was 2.12. Street tires at stock pressure. Got some wheel hop. Need to launch it better. No speed shifting either. Not too bad for a 71 year old guy. Mods in sig.

zippin zee

Sound like you are having fun.

aaaaa

Can't TM be turned off?

16Again

Mid 12's should not be a problem. Track prep is great as we race with the high horse power cars and they all run slicks.