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Old 11-11-2009, 10:18 AM   #1
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Default Wideband lc1 vs ngk

any pros/cons with one over the other? i cant seem to find any direct comparison between the 2..

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Old 11-11-2009, 11:10 AM   #2
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The LC-1 is nice because it's fully programmable, and you can specify the output range, which helps when developing a correct transfer function. The NGK is said to be more accurate, though.
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Old 11-23-2009, 07:46 PM   #3
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NGK all the way
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:24 PM   #4
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Unless you're a cheapskate whose only criteria for selecting a wideband is price and price alone, there is no comparison here. Get the NGK AFX.
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any pros/cons with one over the other? i cant seem to find any direct comparison between the 2..

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The LC1 is a total POS. Do a search on the HP Tuners forum and you'll see tons of complaints about it. I've had my NGK for about two years now and have never had any issues with it and I also pull it out of my car frequently to tune other people's cars - it really is that easy to wire up properly.
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Agreed, the wiring is trivial for them.
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:03 AM   #7
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The LC-1 is a great wideband if your only using it in your own car and the down side is it doesnt come with a screen to read AFR so you have to rely on Hp tuners reading it correctly. The NGK AFX is a great wideband and very accurate, plus you can move it from car to car.

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The LC-1 is a great wideband if your only using it in your own car and the down side is it doesnt come with a screen to read AFR so you have to rely on Hp tuners reading it correctly. The NGK AFX is a great wideband and very accurate, plus you can move it from car to car.

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The only downer to the NGK AFX (in my opinion) is that the display is programmed for 14.4 to be stoich instead of 14.7, but it doesn't matter much if you set up your scanning software to read the signal.
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If your using 93 octane fuel with a 10% ethanol blend, 14.4 is pretty close.
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If your using 93 octane fuel with a 10% ethanol blend, 14.4 is pretty close.
Agreed...
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E10 is lower than that.
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E10 is lower than that.
Pardon my type, it's 14.1:1
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I just deal with lambda now. It's easier.
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Old 12-09-2009, 05:30 PM   #14
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I just deal with lambda now. It's easier.


Lambda is the key.!! 1.0 equals stioch for every fuel used!
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