Ok guys not to sound stupid, but I'm about to order the program. Since there is no phone number for them I just want to make sure I'm getting the right stuff. Does the cable that goes from your pc to car come with it or is that separate? If it's separate does any one know the
part number. Thanks in advance
Also if I am gonna use this for datalogging and a little bit of tuning here and there do I still need a seperate wideband gauge?
Thanks again
With either all cables come with it. If you are going to use the wideband get the Pro. They made it too expensive to try and upgrade later. I bought the regular and learned soon after that the wide band was critical. I ended up buying a separate NGK wideband.
Prepair for the learning curve as well unless you already know this stuff.
If I'm always gonna use my laptop then there's no reason for a
wideband meter right?
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Is the hp pro the best one to get?
Laptop or Desktop doesn't matter. The wideband is an intergal part of tuning. I wish I had that figured out when I purchased. There was plenty telling afterwards.
I can't say that HP is the best but if you decide on HP I would spring for the Pro. Plus it will sell a lot easier when the time comes.
I would look at HP and EFI Live do a comparison then decide. Read both products forums on their sites.
With either all cables come with it. If you are going to use the wideband get the Pro. They made it too expensive to try and upgrade later. I bought the regular and learned soon after that the wide band was critical. I ended up buying a separate NGK wideband.
Prepair for the learning curve as well unless you already know this stuff.
You can get a wideband signal successfully along with all other data in HP Tuners without having the Pro version. Using the AC pressure sensor connection, you can feed the 5v signal in. That said... the Pro version is worth the extra $150.
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You can get a wideband signal successfully along with all other data in HP Tuners without having the Pro version. Using the AC pressure sensor connection, you can feed the 5v signal in. That said... the Pro version is worth the extra $150.
I remember reading that but could never find it again. How and where do you feed the signal in?
PM Joe_G and he can help with the A/C route for the wide-band data. But in spite of his being here in S Fla, and with his encouragement, I bought the Pro version.
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Would you take the rear o2 sensor wire and connect it to you A/C Hi Pressure connector?
I guess there would be a PID that reads the A/C hi pressure?
You don't do anything with your rear O2 sensor... You run the 5V signal wire from the wideband into that wire on the AC pressure sensor.
Then, in HP Tuners, you log AC Pressure voltage, and then create a custom PID using that voltage in a transfer function to convert it to AFR or lambda, whichever you prefer to use.
You don't do anything with your rear O2 sensor... You run the 5V signal wire from the wideband into that wire on the AC pressure sensor.
Then, in HP Tuners, you log AC Pressure voltage, and then create a custom PID using that voltage in a transfer function to convert it to AFR or lambda, whichever you prefer to use.
OK so going this way all I need is a wideband sensor and tie it into the A/C pressure line? unplugged from the Hi Pressure?
This will elinimate having a wideband gauge and will put the readings in the HP logs?
OK so going this way all I need is a wideband sensor and tie it into the A/C pressure line? unplugged from the Hi Pressure?
This will elinimate having a wideband gauge and will put the readings in the HP logs?
Yes. If you don't have catalytic converters, put your wideband in one of the rear O2 bungs so that you can leave your front narrowbands in place. If you have a cat, take out one of the front narrow bands and put your wideband in, and run the 5V signal wire into the red/black wire on the AC pressure connector. This will spit your wideband readings in with all other data in HP Tuners (with a properly set up PID).
OK probably a dumb question that I think I already know the answer. I have looked at a couple of different manufacturers of wideband sensors that have 3 wire and 5 wire. Will any of this do the job? Just use the 5V wire into the connector unplugged from the A/C? Would a stock rear (wideband) o2 sensor work? I have a couple of those lying around.
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Yes. If you don't have catalytic converters, put your wideband in one of the rear O2 bungs so that you can leave your front narrowbands in place. If you have a cat, take out one of the front narrow bands and put your wideband in, and run the 5V signal wire into the red/black wire on the AC pressure connector. This will spit your wideband readings in with all other data in HP Tuners (with a properly set up PID).
You need a controller for the wideband. You can't just use a narrowband. Sounds like you should just do some independent research on differences between narrowband and wideband O2 sensors.
Also if I am gonna use this for datalogging and a little bit of tuning here and there do I still need a seperate wideband gauge?
Thanks again
It you're going the HPTuner route, you will need the pro series and wideband O2 to tune properly. Suggest the NKG, it's inexpensive and accurate for what you want to do.
It you're going the HPTuner route, you will need the pro series and wideband O2 to tune properly. Suggest the NKG, it's inexpensive and accurate for what you want to do.
You do not need the Pro version to get a wideband signal in.
You do not need the Pro version to get a wideband signal in.
If you're using HPTuners, it wants to know what wideband sensor you're using and where the signal is coming from. Input #1 tells HPT that the wideband is reporting to pin one on the interface.
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