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Has anyone actually made one and check the fit from these drawings? I know Ken Nunn is a genius, but as I remember
chatting to Sammy yonks ago, he said it should fit? I'de hate to see 25 made and not quite fit.
Has anyone actually made one and check the fit from these drawings? I know Ken Nunn is a genius, but as I remember
chatting to Sammy yonks ago, he said it should fit? I'de hate to see 25 made and not quite fit.
I’m sure it will. It’s his design that he shared with me after I nagged everyone I could find, and I only did that because it became clear that Magnuson wasn’t going to build it and make it available to us. The only thing that won’t fit is the throttle body flange. If someone can change that to the 4-bolt flange, or create the necessary adaptor, then it will work.
I say that because my modified TBA works, despite the fact that it’s now bigger on the outside than it used to be, and I have a 3/8” Holley plate between the original snout and the TB, and my engine sits lower in the engine bay than stock (I have LPE 1/4 subframe spacers in it).
BUT: It should be borne in mind that they will need to make a custom 4.5”+ air intake for it. Mark has test fitted the 4.5” Synergy unit and I’ve redneck-engineered my own el cheapo 4.5” inlet from a vibrant 45* elbow and a $25.00 air filter. And, I’m not sure whether and how either the Synergy or my homemade inlet can fit under the stock hood. I’m not sure if the very expensive Kong 5” intake could be made to fit, either on my car or with the stock hood. Things to bear in mind.
Talked with Joe @ CPR, and Texas Speed. TSP does not do custom CNC work, they can't keep up with their own work, and Joe does not have enough customers with our platform to have much demand. So neither are interested.
Perhaps could see if anyone has an electronic version of the 4-Bolt GM pattern, and see if an online place can modify it?
Talked with Joe @ CPR, and Texas Speed. TSP does not do custom CNC work, they can't keep up with their own work, and Joe does not have enough customers with our platform to have much demand. So neither are interested.
Perhaps could see if anyone has an electronic version of the 4-Bolt GM pattern, and see if an online place can modify it?
Any thoughts
I can understand that no one wants to do it, unless they know that it will be worth the effort.
Nonetheless,I’m hoping that someone steps up and makes it, even with the 108mm 8-bolt flange and an adaptor.
I would buy one just to support the effort.
Mind you, it would probably be easier to find a competent shop to do what I did and weld up the stock one and port it out. I did mine in my garage with hand tools (except the welding), so I’m sure a machine shop could do that for a couple of hundred bucks.
Did anyone ever end up making these? I need a flange to adapt a 108mm Tb on my kong 2650. Or I might be selling my throttle body and heartbeat adapter if anyone is interested.
Did anyone ever end up making these? I need a flange to adapt a 108mm Tb on my kong 2650. Or I might be selling my throttle body and heartbeat adapter if anyone is interested.
If someone is interested in the throttle body and inlet I’m definitely interested in selling. The throttle body has a boosted Nick Williams motor installed. Not the Ls3 GM motor.
Did anyone ever end up making these? I need a flange to adapt a 108mm Tb on my kong 2650. Or I might be selling my throttle body and heartbeat adapter if anyone is interested.
Where did you get that from? Is that the C6 snout?
Where did you get that from? Is that the C6 snout?
purchased the blower with inlet and TB. Not really sure if the inlet is for C6. I’m switching to a different inlet and planned on using the 108mm TB on my kong 2650. But I can sell the inlet and TB and just purchase a 112 or 120mm NW for my kong setup.
purchased the blower with inlet and TB. Not really sure if the inlet is for C6. I’m switching to a different inlet and planned on using the 108mm TB on my kong 2650. But I can sell the inlet and TB and just purchase a 112 or 120mm NW for my kong setup.
I think it’s the G8/Holden 108mm snout, which is pretty close but not identical to the angle and TB position of the C6 snout (TBA).
The blower drive also has the G8/Camaro/Caddy belt spacing/offset…
Ken Nunn was kind enough (he seems like a really cool guy) to share an overlay of the two TBAs on the monster Heartbeat thread, and you could easily see the difference then. It wasn’t a big difference, but I wasn’t sure it could fit on my Vette, which is why I modified my stock 90mm snout to 102mm. That and that the 108mm TB is not cheap, although probably worth it.
I think it’s the G8/Holden 108mm snout, which is pretty close but not identical to the angle and TB position of the C6 snout (TBA).
The blower drive also has the G8/Camaro/Caddy belt spacing/offset…
Ken Nunn was kind enough (he seems like a really cool guy) to share an overlay of the two TBAs on the monster Heartbeat thread, and you could easily see the difference then. It wasn’t a big difference, but I wasn’t sure it could fit on my Vette, which is why I modified my stock 90mm snout to 102mm. That and that the 108mm TB is not cheap, although probably worth it.
Have you seen the TB placement on the LS9 with modified snouts or the Kong 2650? There’s no angle that you speak of. Included one of my 2300 with throttle attached for comparison.
Have you seen the TB placement on the LS9 with modified snouts or the Kong 2650? There’s no angle that you speak of. Included one of my 2300 with throttle attached for comparison.
ive seen all of that, yes. I’m pretty sure I’ve looked at every configuration of blower drive/snout/setup for the C6 over the past several years. There’s lots of stuff posted about that in other chats in here..
ive seen all of that, yes. I’m pretty sure I’ve looked at every configuration of blower drive/snout/setup for the C6 over the past several years. There’s lots of stuff posted about that in other chats in here..
Sooo what’s the issue? You can’t make it work? Need help?
Did anyone ever end up making these? I need a flange to adapt a 108mm Tb on my kong 2650. Or I might be selling my throttle body and heartbeat adapter if anyone is interested.
Sooo what’s the issue? You can’t make it work? Need help?
There’s no issue. Was simply answering your question as to whether I had seen the Kong blower, noted the inlet angle, etc.
The Kong uses the same angle on the TB as the Lingenfelter LS9 snout: both of those basically points the throttle body straight ahead. That’s why the LPE snout needs something like the synergy intake/filter and the Kong requires his very expensive intake/filter assembly.
I’ve made mine work by porting it out myself and building my own 4.5” inlet. It’s not so fancy but works pretty decent.
I’m sure you could make it work. You have the Synergy intake already, no? Bet you’ll pick up a couple of psi of boost…
May as well buy the lid and CACs and a hood while you’re at it…
I’m sure you could make it work. You have the Synergy intake already, no? Bet you’ll pick up a couple of psi of boost…
May as well buy the lid and CACs and a hood while you’re at it…
For some quick logics: the LS2 throttle body measures 90mm in diameter and is designed to flow around 400hp. If you want to make 800hp with equally low pressure loss, you would need 2x 90mm throttle bodies or a single one with 127mm (area is proportional to diameter squared). The largest throttle body out there is 112mm - which is still small in my view according to this simple geometrical scaling law.
How far did you guys get with making these adapters for the heartbeat?
Thanks
PS: I offer to re-design for the 112mm (need some inputs from you guys for it) and at least get a "bare-bottom" quote from my workshop - see what they could make them for... good thing here is that I do have the capacity in March/April (theoretically)
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