White_Lightning

Well, its been a long road and i am finally at the point where for now i am happy with the car.
Ill first say Thanks to Sam and Bryan @ Advanced Modern Performance out of arlington TX. They have been the only shop to touch my car since i went from heads/cam through all my combos.
The pictures do not do this build justice. The attention to detail that the AMP crew showed is incredible. The car drives so smoothly you would not think it has near the power it does.

Car started as a heads/cam car.
Then added a 175 Wet shot.
D1SC+ stock motor
F1R+stock motor.
f1x+434
f1x+427.
And here we are today.
The build as it sits (and Sam or Bryan Feel free to jump in and correct me.)

LME build ~9.9:1 427 with Mast 305cc Black label heads.
DP Fi cam
ARH 2" headers
Procharger F1x with DP HD J bracket and DP direct drive.
AMP all custom Cold side piping.
AMP moddified Base Procharger FMIC(from my d1 kit) with modded inlet and outlet ,3" in 4" out, and outlet End tank.
Dual Tial Q bovs on the end tank.
All pulls made through a DP Big mouth intake + filter.
93 octane pulls have a restricter in the intake to restrict boost.
LG drag spindles.
Spec Super twin ST trim clutch.
ID2000 Injectors.
AMP custom fuel system.
AMP custom Catch can setup.
Precision Metalcraft Ls7 intake.
10 rib pullys
8" IW crank
4" Blower pully.
all the dynos im going to post for the f1x and the old F1r were with the same pully combo.
I am sure im forgetting something.. but time to post a BUNCH of pictures.
AMP also clearenced my front calipers so that i could fit the weld 18x7s up front with out spacers.










And now the power numbers.
here is 93 Vs c16


This is the 434 f1x VS the 427 f1x . The old setup i had 1000cc injectors and was just out of injector @6700. The old setup was unrestricted. the new setup we had to restrict it down a bunch to keep it down to 1200.

This is the f1x on KILL(c16) vs the old f1x 434 setup

Finally this is the 434 f1R 8"/4" setup vs the 427 f1x 8"/4" setup




quick Start up and idle video. (keep in mind its in a closed shop so its actually not AS loud as it seems in the vid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6oV...ature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zRF...ature=youtu.be

MBB

Looks slow.

Detoxx03

Holy moly doughnut shop! That's killer man congrats.

White_Lightning

for tx is is.. Maybe C team power

Thanks!!

turbotuner20v

That's crazy to see the power difference

Unreal

Not bad at all. Wish I knew how much the intake added.

White_Lightning

here is some of my spreadsheet bench racing.. @ Ti on my F1r @ 6600 rpm shift point the car was down to 854/676. the shift would drop it to 4700 which was 801/877.
on the new setup. 7500 rpm shift point.. im @ 1320/943 @ 7500 and when i shift it drops to 5200 which is 923/930.. should make a nice diffence in trap speed

0ProChargerTech

Congrats on the amazing amazing build......

Things to take note.... F-1X's are wicked power makers.

And to think people said, you can't make over 700hp with the ProCharger tensioner.
Even though their are plenty 800,900HP cars, this thing is belting out nearly 1,500+ at the motor. Just awesome!


Can't imagine the difference in the way it sounds after 5,000rpm compared to the old combo....!!!!

White_Lightning

one thing to keep in mind the blower is 100% NOT out of power.. we still have a 3.8" we could throw on there. but right now i want to be able to rev it out to 7500 rpm..

5 Liter Eater

Congrats man. It's a complete package. Now do yourself a favor and leave it the *** alone and drive the thing.

0ProChargerTech

This is the math that can put a smile on your face! wow!

0ProChargerTech

Actually you are out of gearbox, (just not impeller).

The older R's and other blowers, really hit a CFM cap up top, and even though you can spin them harder, the dyno curve will flatten out because lack of CFM change, and drive load power increase. So most people really didn't overspin the older blowers.

As you can see people are finding out the difference between the F-1X's and older F-1R's, the faster you spin them, the more power they make.
But the gearbox's still have their limits.

However, many people are ignoring the MAX RPM limit of the F-1X (72,000rpm) due to how much power they keep making with the new impeller designs, and are running into gearbox failures. (The blower is only rated at 1,300HP of Crank HP worth of CFM. And you are now making that to the wheels)

I mention this because you stated you are running a 8"/4" pulley combo, and 7,200 engine rpm. Which means you are at 77,760 impeller rpm, thus a good distance over the redline. (And the 3.80" pulley, would push that even farther into the 81,000 range)

Enjoy the power! But if you can keep her "happy" and at or under the 72,000rpm redline, your blower will thank you

Back when blowers were smaller, there was much more buffer in that redline, but with the massive load force these impellers are putting on the bearings, over spinning is not a good idea.

If you are over the redline of the blower (as you currently are) thats when things like, intercooler pressure drop come into play. Make sure you have the least amount of pressure drop across the core, instead of putting that 3.80" pulley on and risking a gear box failure.

Can't wait to see real world results of this new combo.

White_Lightning

im shifting at 7500 which is closer to 80k i have a spreadsheet i made that will calculate and plot blower vs engine rpm for any pully combo

btw.. street duty i will still shift at 7000.. 7500 is reserved for "special occasions"

0ProChargerTech

I just looked at the 7,200ish on the dyno sheets, don't make me cringe even more knowing its really 7,500. Honestly, your saving grace is likely going to be that serp. belt. Cause hitting a revlimiter at high RPM, with a gearbox that over spun with a cog belt, easily would end in disaster.

But as long as you know, then its all good. Just being honest and stating that with all the hype around the f1x, and that 99% of it is people raving about the power it makes, those few that keep complaining about gearbox failures are likely in the same rpm range you are. If they break, its pretty easy to tell why, the bearings have very tell tale signs of what load they have tried to live at.

Now if we could just spin it to 100k

1MEANGS

Congrats man this is one clean build... Good luck w/ all that power it must pull like a fright train on the highway... Id like to see how much $ you have into this car holy **** between all the set-ups... Was it worth it? (:

ajrothm

That's crazy power WhiteLightening.... You guys did a killer job on that car!!

How much boost were you seeing on the 1324hp ballz out pull? How much on the pump gas/meth pull?

Are still using 3" pipe from the blower to the intercooler?

I've been contemplating an X for a while, but I don't want to re-do all my piping again.. I'd just like to make 1k to the wheels thru the auto on pump/meth...

Looks like the F1R was stronger up til 5k and then the X takes off and slaughters it from there. Mine is never under 5k at wot anyway...

I'm thinking an X with a wastegate setup would be killer..

Youre making over 1500 crank HP right now...

croatbob

Lol ppl just ratte off 1200whp like it's a corolla these days. Insane numbers

White_Lightning

Shift point is 7500.. rev limiter set to 7650. so unlikely that ill hit it.
Also i dont rely on the factor sluggish tach. i have a digital tach with a BRIGHT shiftlight..Also, the time it will see over 7000 will be very limited


honestly. less than you would think. I sold my previous blowers and any other things i swapped. When i bought the car an 08 z0 was going for 55-60k and i bought my coupe for 37.So i could have had a z0 with a d1 or my coupe as it is setup right now.

c16 pull 30#.. 93 pull 25-26#.
i think the piping from the blower to the IF is 3.5" and then 4" from fmic to TB.

AMP Really made this build awesome. I wish i had more photos of the car coming together.. so many cool things you cant event see..

BOO666

I will agree . You know how many people start by adding a cai and headers and end up years later with a street monster . I like your car too my friend .

White_Lightning

here is the sad thing.. even with 1300 rwhp.. im not even competitive in the Texas Speed Syndicate Texas Invitational lol... there will be 5-6 cars over 2000 hp TO THE WHEELS!!