Good cam for an Daily Driven LS3 M6 ECS SC1500 car?
#1
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Good cam for an Daily Driven LS3 M6 ECS SC1500 car?
So I'll be relying on my 2012 GS as it'll be my only car.
With this in mind, we'll be doing an ECS SC1500 kit as they've been proven reliable, decent price, and have quality customer service/support behind them. Adding 1 7/8 headers, catless x-pipe, and some porting on the TB/Intake mani to help air flow. I'll be keeping the stock gears.
I might send out my stock heads over the winter to TEA or AI to be ported and get some valve springs and such, and I figured that if I do that - I should do a cam as well.
I'd like the cam to idle basically like stock and the car to drive at low rpm similar to stock. I don't need 60-80whp gains that some shops promise with their cams. I'd be cool with 25-40whp (and I know 40whp would be optimistic, but a guy can dream), so long as it doesn't surge at low RPM.
I'm curious what you folks have used so far and how it's responded - Specifically interesting in NOVI 1500 owners on LS3 cars. Please say what engine/blower combo you have when you reply... it'd help.
Thanks!
With this in mind, we'll be doing an ECS SC1500 kit as they've been proven reliable, decent price, and have quality customer service/support behind them. Adding 1 7/8 headers, catless x-pipe, and some porting on the TB/Intake mani to help air flow. I'll be keeping the stock gears.
I might send out my stock heads over the winter to TEA or AI to be ported and get some valve springs and such, and I figured that if I do that - I should do a cam as well.
I'd like the cam to idle basically like stock and the car to drive at low rpm similar to stock. I don't need 60-80whp gains that some shops promise with their cams. I'd be cool with 25-40whp (and I know 40whp would be optimistic, but a guy can dream), so long as it doesn't surge at low RPM.
I'm curious what you folks have used so far and how it's responded - Specifically interesting in NOVI 1500 owners on LS3 cars. Please say what engine/blower combo you have when you reply... it'd help.
Thanks!
#2
Le Mans Master
So I'll be relying on my 2012 GS as it'll be my only car.
With this in mind, we'll be doing an ECS SC1500 kit as they've been proven reliable, decent price, and have quality customer service/support behind them. Adding 1 7/8 headers, catless x-pipe, and some porting on the TB/Intake mani to help air flow. I'll be keeping the stock gears.
I might send out my stock heads over the winter to TEA or AI to be ported and get some valve springs and such, and I figured that if I do that - I should do a cam as well.
I'd like the cam to idle basically like stock and the car to drive at low rpm similar to stock. I don't need 60-80whp gains that some shops promise with their cams. I'd be cool with 25-40whp (and I know 40whp would be optimistic, but a guy can dream), so long as it doesn't surge at low RPM.
I'm curious what you folks have used so far and how it's responded - Specifically interesting in NOVI 1500 owners on LS3 cars. Please say what engine/blower combo you have when you reply... it'd help.
Thanks!
With this in mind, we'll be doing an ECS SC1500 kit as they've been proven reliable, decent price, and have quality customer service/support behind them. Adding 1 7/8 headers, catless x-pipe, and some porting on the TB/Intake mani to help air flow. I'll be keeping the stock gears.
I might send out my stock heads over the winter to TEA or AI to be ported and get some valve springs and such, and I figured that if I do that - I should do a cam as well.
I'd like the cam to idle basically like stock and the car to drive at low rpm similar to stock. I don't need 60-80whp gains that some shops promise with their cams. I'd be cool with 25-40whp (and I know 40whp would be optimistic, but a guy can dream), so long as it doesn't surge at low RPM.
I'm curious what you folks have used so far and how it's responded - Specifically interesting in NOVI 1500 owners on LS3 cars. Please say what engine/blower combo you have when you reply... it'd help.
Thanks!
#3
Team Owner
That is a great option. Or have Pat G spec something. You tell him what you want. In this case probably keep overlap at zero or a bit positive.
#4
Le Mans Master
#5
Instructor
I'm running a blower cam by Arun@CCP and it has excellent street manners for DD. It does have noticeable cam idle, but just by the sound. It doesn't shake the car like my cammed C5. I've been DD and put some miles on it and haven't had any low surging. Great Cam!
#6
Team Owner
Whats funny is my Pat G cam, local shop in Utah and Arun all spec'd out the same cam for me. Only difference was ammount of advance ground in. Same lobes, same LSA, just 2 chose +3 and one chose +4.
#7
Drifting
I'm currently trying to decide on a cam for the exact same requirements. My vette currently has an n/a spec'd cam and although I have not installed the blower yet I feel that the cam may be a bit too much. I contacted Martin from Tick who originally spec'd the current cam and Mike at Presence Distribution who I bought the ECS kit from and who happens to work with Pat G for cam requirements. I got their suggestions and I'm just trying to break down the specs to see who's going to meet my requirements. To my surprise both were really close to each other, but you have to know certain details to make an educated choice. For example lobe types and cam timing. Cam events calculators are no help if you dont know what you are looking for. I've read so much about cams that I even think that I'm able to spec one the next time lol just like Unreal stated for docility you want either 0 degrees of overlap or slightly negative or slightly positive. My n/a cam has 7 degrees positive and bucks slightly below 1,400 rpms. Hope this helps.
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#8
Drifting
As you may know the advance will change the cam timing events. 3* advance is going to be peakier than 4* with everything else being the same. Valvetrain stability plays a role on that as well and lobes are a major aspect of the puzzle.
#9
Instructor
I have used both of ECS cams in my LS3 which is a daily driver. Both of the cams make good power. With the Paxton 1500 I would stay with the Small Blower Cam. I currently use the Big Blower Cam with my setup (Paxton 2200) others will chime in.
#10
Melting Slicks
Best bet is to speak with a cam expert like Pat or Martin as has been mentioned. Imho, for your goals I would suggest something along the lines of a 222/234 .602/.612 117+4
This would provide perfect street manners and a nice bump in power.
Let us know what you decide
This would provide perfect street manners and a nice bump in power.
Let us know what you decide
#13
Drifting
#14
Le Mans Master
Agree with checking with an expert. Also agree with those specs. I'm running a 224/234 116+2 which might be just a tad big for a DD. Some would suggest that that's a weenie cam though It's another of those personal preference things.
#15
Pro
So I'll be relying on my 2012 GS as it'll be my only car.
With this in mind, we'll be doing an ECS SC1500 kit as they've been proven reliable, decent price, and have quality customer service/support behind them. Adding 1 7/8 headers, catless x-pipe, and some porting on the TB/Intake mani to help air flow. I'll be keeping the stock gears.
I might send out my stock heads over the winter to TEA or AI to be ported and get some valve springs and such, and I figured that if I do that - I should do a cam as well.
I'd like the cam to idle basically like stock and the car to drive at low rpm similar to stock. I don't need 60-80whp gains that some shops promise with their cams. I'd be cool with 25-40whp (and I know 40whp would be optimistic, but a guy can dream), so long as it doesn't surge at low RPM.
I'm curious what you folks have used so far and how it's responded - Specifically interesting in NOVI 1500 owners on LS3 cars. Please say what engine/blower combo you have when you reply... it'd help.
Thanks!
With this in mind, we'll be doing an ECS SC1500 kit as they've been proven reliable, decent price, and have quality customer service/support behind them. Adding 1 7/8 headers, catless x-pipe, and some porting on the TB/Intake mani to help air flow. I'll be keeping the stock gears.
I might send out my stock heads over the winter to TEA or AI to be ported and get some valve springs and such, and I figured that if I do that - I should do a cam as well.
I'd like the cam to idle basically like stock and the car to drive at low rpm similar to stock. I don't need 60-80whp gains that some shops promise with their cams. I'd be cool with 25-40whp (and I know 40whp would be optimistic, but a guy can dream), so long as it doesn't surge at low RPM.
I'm curious what you folks have used so far and how it's responded - Specifically interesting in NOVI 1500 owners on LS3 cars. Please say what engine/blower combo you have when you reply... it'd help.
Thanks!
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#16
Melting Slicks
Ask ten people and you will get mixed results on whats streetable. For what the op is asking I think your cam falls into the right parameters. My suggestion is a touch tamer with -6 overlap. Will have a noticeable idle and zero bucking/surging that will be perfect for dd car.
#17
Melting Slicks
my cam has 10 degrees of overlap and drives perfect, even with an auto. OP, give brian tooley a call. he will get you right.
#18
Le Mans Master
Ask ten people and you will get mixed results on whats streetable. For what the op is asking I think your cam falls into the right parameters. My suggestion is a touch tamer with -6 overlap. Will have a noticeable idle and zero bucking/surging that will be perfect for dd car.
#19
Instructor
As has been said, "good manors" are very subjective.
I run a 223/235 .610/.620 115 and I don't have any drivability problems what so ever. Daily driver.
But for many, that would be too much for a daily. Mine idles at 550 with some good lope or I can set my idle up a couple hundred and its nice and smooth. Audible chop, but smooth as far as the car is concerned.
Much of how a cam acts is in the tune.
Contact PatG, Martin@tick, or the guys at ECS. They'll all take care of you. Pat has speced a lot of cams for me over the years.
I run a 223/235 .610/.620 115 and I don't have any drivability problems what so ever. Daily driver.
But for many, that would be too much for a daily. Mine idles at 550 with some good lope or I can set my idle up a couple hundred and its nice and smooth. Audible chop, but smooth as far as the car is concerned.
Much of how a cam acts is in the tune.
Contact PatG, Martin@tick, or the guys at ECS. They'll all take care of you. Pat has speced a lot of cams for me over the years.
#20
Cams
My 2010 GS will be going in for some mods next week that will include a heartbeat SC, exhaust, head porting and a cam. The cam chosen by the shop seems large to me for a daily driver, any opinions?
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