calling Sinster!
11-01-2013, 04:56 PM
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the ford gt is 12:1 compression,running on methanol and runs precision billet 8285s.. it made 1750 plus on the mustang dyno the best they could do without spinning(as bad at least)..
the popping is the traction control cutting cyclinders trying to help the best it can.
its alot left in the car beeville is a rough track.. should be able to do 280 plus at the houston mile new year if it holds up.
the popping is the traction control cutting cyclinders trying to help the best it can.
its alot left in the car beeville is a rough track.. should be able to do 280 plus at the houston mile new year if it holds up.
11-01-2013, 04:58 PM
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and bring it down on some hoosiers
11-01-2013, 04:59 PM
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Stupid can be fun in moderation.
That may have been my first keyboard race, I hope I won.
I agree
Quick lesson on turbos:
Boost is a measure of resistance from the turbos supplying more air than the motor can utilize. I don't think causing more resistance and there for making the setup less efficient is the best route. I have confirmed the efficiency of my system by measuring AITs which stay at ambient or below on the road. This is with the four centrally located pipes that you claimed would be detrimental to performance. Phew glad you were wrong.
Smaller pipes increase exhaust velocity to increase turbo spool, which would result in decreased traction. AITs and boost would increase but power would stay nearly the same because the total airflow would remain unchanged.
23 psi is in fact the limit for my system and engine because the turbos are no longer able to provide increased airflow to make more power.
I'd really like to listen to you Nick but my intention is to go faster this upcoming season.
That may have been my first keyboard race, I hope I won.
I agree
Quick lesson on turbos:
Boost is a measure of resistance from the turbos supplying more air than the motor can utilize. I don't think causing more resistance and there for making the setup less efficient is the best route. I have confirmed the efficiency of my system by measuring AITs which stay at ambient or below on the road. This is with the four centrally located pipes that you claimed would be detrimental to performance. Phew glad you were wrong.
Smaller pipes increase exhaust velocity to increase turbo spool, which would result in decreased traction. AITs and boost would increase but power would stay nearly the same because the total airflow would remain unchanged.
23 psi is in fact the limit for my system and engine because the turbos are no longer able to provide increased airflow to make more power.
I'd really like to listen to you Nick but my intention is to go faster this upcoming season.
Mike just trying to have civil conversation...this is a forum after all.
Alot of these high end turbos now have the ability to log shaft speed that would tell you if the gas velocity is correct or not.
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11-01-2013, 08:14 PM
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So are you telling me that @ 23psi your gates are clamped closed?
Mike just trying to have civil conversation...this is a forum after all.
Alot of these high end turbos now have the ability to log shaft speed that would tell you if the gas velocity is correct or not.
Mike just trying to have civil conversation...this is a forum after all.
Alot of these high end turbos now have the ability to log shaft speed that would tell you if the gas velocity is correct or not.
I guess I could measure shaft speed but my training in medicine has taught me not to look for things that won't change the situation.
My situation now is that I have enough power to the top of 4th so more doesn't help me until I commit to tires I don't have interest in.
My mission right now is to get my launch down and boost by speed dialed in for 1-4. Once I perfected the current combo Ill add traction with more power and start over.
11-02-2013, 10:17 AM
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yes it is!
basically big turbo outlaw cars are going to smaller diameter piping and then that allows them to run larger turbines. if mike adopted this thinking 23psi would not be the limit for sure! power delivery would probably be smoother which certainly be beneficial to traction.
basically big turbo outlaw cars are going to smaller diameter piping and then that allows them to run larger turbines. if mike adopted this thinking 23psi would not be the limit for sure! power delivery would probably be smoother which certainly be beneficial to traction.
Obviously this is for race only cars with very specific requirements. But the science that goes behind it is really intresting and probably the same as OEMs use when they design turbo systems.
Sinistter how many lbs per min can you turbos move at the moment?
11-09-2013, 02:30 PM
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If your friend wants to test his car come run the half mile, if it's before June 14th Ill be there.
11-09-2013, 05:55 PM
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11-09-2013, 07:14 PM
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I'm out of town on job interviews all winter so maybe this spring. I do have a friend who's cousin has a brother who knows this guy that would want to race him tho, should we get a bunch of people to line the streets and spray paint a finish line too?
If your friend wants to test his car come run the half mile, if it's before June 14th Ill be there.
If your friend wants to test his car come run the half mile, if it's before June 14th Ill be there.
I thought you could get Batman...(you know him).....and his cap crusaders and line the streets..........
We will be at Half mile and Michigan Mile see you there
11-09-2013, 10:54 PM
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11-10-2013, 12:45 AM
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Street pulls vary, the 60-130 is neat but slowly becoming a thing of the past because of the Standing Mile, 1/2 Mile, 1/4, or even better, the Texas Invitational for your car. So many truely fast cars, but I'd register for the fall of 2014 and see if you qualify. Plenty of guys will want to run ya, but with class and props. Just my experience with the TSS group.
11-10-2013, 04:22 AM
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I know Stacy's UGR 2r car just went 224.99 in the half at Shift Sector, that car is around 1800awhp and geared for the mile, be interesting to see what it would do in the mile if he'll run it.
11-10-2013, 12:13 PM
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11-10-2013, 12:22 PM
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Did you notice how they ran the Shift Sector race ? It wasn't a standing 1/2 mile race. They did a rolling start to a set of cones at a 1/2 mile distance. Somebody has to come up with a standard for this type of racing. I think it would completely change everybody's overall speed with standing 1/2 mile. Just my 2 cents on this type of racing !
If you watch Stacy's 224 run, it was from a dead stop. They do roll ons as well, but also standing half miles. That's why he was awarded the standing half mile challenge win.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZWZbMCcZNI&feature=youtube_gdat a_player
11-10-2013, 04:16 PM
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That FORD GT has to be putting down some big power. He doesn't even come off the line hard but you can hear his gears are really tall!! I'd love to see an in car. I'm wondering if he changed out the rear gearing to make the gears very tall so he can eliminate a shift or two and stay on the turbo's longer. 278 is ridiculous! It was only a few years back when breaking 200 was pretty amazing!!!!
Dan
Dan
Ridiculous! 
11-10-2013, 09:17 PM
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Just start dating a local deputy sheriff or hipo officer. It saves my hind end a lot anymore.
11-11-2013, 10:09 AM
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11-14-2013, 07:50 AM
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Engineers can make power power than pretty much any tire can put to the ground these days. The art form is now in controlling that power so you are constantly at, well just below, breaking traction at all times. Its the same for fast road cars (see the Farrier F12), race cars (ALMS) or drag / mile racing.