Originally Posted by Motorhead-47

You do realize there is a member on this forum who has been running one now for months on his 2011 Grand Sport right? His results were "mixed at best".

Originally Posted by breecher_7

With what blower? Thats going to make a difference. And as there is no application specific unit available for this, there are ALOT of variables when it comes to the heat exchanger he is using. Results im getting so far are not mixed at all, it does what its been doing for years on the mustangs. Lowers IAT's and quite well. The chiller mixed with spraying a 50/50 mix of water/meth in the lower intake is working quite well.

Originally Posted by breecher_7

Interesting... Because when I contacted Kincaid performance (manufacturers of the killer chiller) about this almost two months ago they specifically said they had no system in the works or in development for the C6 but they could custom build one for me if I supplied them with the A/C schematics. Thats when I took it into my own hands. So that leads me to believe that his system came from somewhere else? Dont know enough about his dealings to comment, only what I was told by them directly.

Originally Posted by Motorhead-47

Just googled Kincaid..they are in New Mexico. I talked with the guy who did the C6 in that thread (he wanted me to be guinea pig #2) and he's down somewhere near Tampa..different guy...some Rube Goldberg idea.

Originally Posted by Motorhead-47

Looks like the C6 one was the "Super Chiller"...not the "Killer Chiller"

Link to a Camaro install with photos... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...killer+chiller

Originally Posted by Motorhead-47

Like I said earlier...prove it out for us.

Originally Posted by Hutch

Just had the car dyno tuned and picked up a bit more oomph over the off-the-shelf tune that comes with the supercharger, plus the car feels a bit "snappier" in the mid-range, probably a result of more torque.

529.75 RWHP
496.32 FT-LBS TQ

Again, you can get more power with other systems out there if that is your goal but I'm very pleased with my car's performance and excellent street manners. Hey, it works for me!

Originally Posted by Seadawg

Yea, I was REALLY impressed, I got to experience it first hand. I drove my stock 2011 GS from Daytona to Orlando (about an hour), romped it a few times to be sure I knew the "feel", then got into Hutch's ride with him. A VERY noticable difference in the seat of the pants acceleration, when he romped it.

And, literally NO noticable difference in sound, driveability, handling manners, etc. AND, the engine oil and water temps were similar to mine, and it was close to a 100 degree day for the ride. No noticable heat soak or loss of power. Again, on the street and not flat out, but that is what 99% of my driving would be too.

I'm very glad I took the opportunity to meet Hutch and take him up on a ride offer. And I have a lot of respect for this SC setup now too.

Thanks again Hutch!

Ron

Originally Posted by Seadawg

Yea, I was REALLY impressed, I got to experience it first hand. I drove my stock 2011 GS from Daytona to Orlando (about an hour), romped it a few times to be sure I knew the "feel", then got into Hutch's ride with him. A VERY noticable difference in the seat of the pants acceleration, when he romped it.

And, literally NO noticable difference in sound, driveability, handling manners, etc. AND, the engine oil and water temps were similar to mine, and it was close to a 100 degree day for the ride. No noticable heat soak or loss of power. Again, on the street and not flat out, but that is what 99% of my driving would be too.

I'm very glad I took the opportunity to meet Hutch and take him up on a ride offer. And I have a lot of respect for this SC setup now too.

Thanks again Hutch!

Ron

Originally Posted by 757missy

Steve,
Who painted your fuel rail covers and how much did it cost? Just put an Edelbrock SC on my 2010 Grand Sport and would love to have the look like yours. Cheers, Brian

Originally Posted by Motorhead-47

Do you plan to track and/or drag race your car regularly? If the answer is no, then you won't have an issue with heat soak and the Edelbrock supercharger. If you track your car regularly then IMHO you don't want a supercharger at all....of any type. If you are addicted to drag racing, buy a centri.

If you want to talk more about temperatures and the Edelbrock supercharger, I've been running one for over a year now. I'm assuming you are asking because someone has put the myth in your ear about PD blowers and heat soak?

ALL cars (modified or not, carb’d or fuel injected, normally aspirated or forced induction) experience some form of heat soak. The most common form of heat soak occurs when you shut down the car on a hot day. In the absence of active cooling (water circulating and air flowing) the entire mass under the hood will try to come to a common temperature. Because the engine is the largest mass, everything else attached will tend to migrate to the temp of the engine…typically around 200 degrees. As soon as you start the car again and begin rolling down the road you have water circulating and air flowing across the coolers…heat soak goes away. On supercharged cars, the most common and misused form of the term is when you put the car into a state that it can’t quickly recover from the heat soak….typically this occurs with repeated full throttle pulls on a dyno with inadequate airflow (lousy fan) or when drag racing with back-to-back hot laps on a hot summer night. So what’s the result when this happens?...the car senses the high temps, reduces timing to keep from damaging the engine and you lose horsepower (temporarily) as a result. Sustained high speed driving on a track while in boost on a hot day can also get you into heat soak mode. What happens with the dreaded heat soak mode?...once again, the car senses the high temps, reduces timing and horsepower falls off until your cooling system recovers.

So if you plan to spend all of your time driving on the dyno in the summer, street racing in Mexico, hot lapping at the local drag strip or competing at Sebring you probably should worry about heat soak… with a supercharged or any car for that matter.

For the rest of us….it really is a non-issue. I’m willing to bet a beer that the heat soak phenomena is/would be transparent to 90% of the members on this forum.

P.S. I also live in Florida and it gets hot here!