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Old 11-04-2010, 10:27 PM
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I have been toying with the idea of building a C5R block for my FI C6Z. What hurdles do I face in this project? Has anyone else on the forum done it yet? I have heard that this is the closest thing to a bullet proof block you can get. Any thought? Suggestions?
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Originally Posted by NJLS708
I have been toying with the idea of building a C5R block for my FI C6Z. What hurdles do I face in this project? Has anyone else on the forum done it yet? I have heard that this is the closest thing to a bullet proof block you can get. Any thought? Suggestions?


C5R blocks were great 10 years ago, but with the other blocks that are available today,they are pretty antiquated. The RHS block is a much better piece.
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ Va Speed
C5R blocks were great 10 years ago, but with the other blocks that are available today,they are pretty antiquated. The RHS block is a much better piece.
^^^ This

Very old compared to today's motors.
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ Va Speed
C5R blocks were great 10 years ago, but with the other blocks that are available today,they are pretty antiquated. The RHS block is a much better piece.

I'll third that.
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ Va Speed
C5R blocks were great 10 years ago, but with the other blocks that are available today,they are pretty antiquated. The RHS block is a much better piece.
Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
I'll third that.
I fourth that


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How is the RHS block compare to the LSX iron block and C5R block for a boosted application? What is the weight of the RHS vs. the others?
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RHS LS Race Block specs.

http://www.racingheadservice.com/Ins...es/54900IS.pdf
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Originally Posted by NJLS708
How is the RHS block compare to the LSX iron block and C5R block for a boosted application? What is the weight of the RHS vs. the others?
I also stay away from the Iron LSX motor unless you really need it. An ERL superdeck can handle 1500hp without the extra weight for example.
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old school! no way!
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Why pay through the nose for old technology?

Unless you're looking for a ***** out drag car I'd probably do an LS3 with a turbo or blower.

What sort of power are you looking for and how do you plan on using it (road race, drag race, etc)?
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Why pay through the nose for old technology?

Unless you're looking for a ***** out drag car I'd probably do an LS3 with a turbo or blower.

What sort of power are you looking for and how do you plan on using it (road race, drag race, etc)?
I wouldn't exactly consider an LS3 that much better for boost over an LS7. My LS7 is making 677rwhp and it is running just fine.....for now. But I always have it in the back of my mind that it could all go wrong at any time. I would actually like a car that I can drive at any time that makes 1000 or so rwhp on a motor that is actually built to handle it. I realize many other parts on the car will need to be upgraded also but right now im just thinking of the motor.
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Originally Posted by NJLS708
I wouldn't exactly consider an LS3 that much better for boost over an LS7. My LS7 is making 677rwhp and it is running just fine.....for now. But I always have it in the back of my mind that it could all go wrong at any time. I would actually like a car that I can drive at any time that makes 1000 or so rwhp on a motor that is actually built to handle it. I realize many other parts on the car will need to be upgraded also but right now im just thinking of the motor.
When you find out, let me know, I have the same aim.

Also it's my [limited] understanding that the ls3 is a lot meatier around the bores making it better (plus the stock CR).
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When you find out, let me know, I have the same aim.

Also it's my [limited] understanding that the ls3 is a lot meatier around the bores making it better (plus the stock CR).
Yes the LS3 has thicker side walls but still really isn't built for major amounts of boost. It is a bit better than the LS7 but still not going to handle 1000hp for any extended periods of time. The reason I had mentioned the C5R block was because I have heard from many that you could boost it until the cows come home. Now with this thread i'm thinking maybe the RHS block may be my best option. For now (knock on wood) my LS7 is running like a clock with 800 at the crank. When I am ready for my new built I am going to boost this LS7 as far as it will go. Just to see for myself. I would also like to drop in some dished pistons to my LS7 and see how far it will go. I hear that the pistons are always the first to go and that the block actually hold up much better than what people give it credit for.
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Originally Posted by NJLS708
My LS7 is making 677rwhp and it is running just fine.....for now.
There are tons and tons of LS1 and LS6 cars running around for years at that power level.
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I always have it in the back of my mind that it could all go wrong at any time.
That's always the case & is true for everyone, regardless of how expensive their motor. There is a reason many racers have spare motors ready to go.

Does your LS7 have a built lower end? I could see upgrading the pistons, rods, bolts, etc, but the block itself isn't in danger at under 700hp.
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There are tons and tons of LS1 and LS6 cars running around for years at that power level.


That's always the case & is true for everyone, regardless of how expensive their motor. There is a reason many racers have spare motors ready to go.

Does your LS7 have a built lower end? I could see upgrading the pistons, rods, bolts, etc, but the block itself isn't in danger at under 700hp.
100% stock block at 677rw. I will be adding a Fast 102mm intake, throttle body and blower cam shortly which should get me to around 725ish rwhp? Give or take a few ponies. I am thinking if I do the pistons, rods etc.. at that time it should be good for a while but eventually I will want more. Its in our nature, we can never be satisfied with what we have.
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ Va Speed
C5R blocks were great 10 years ago, but with the other blocks that are available today,they are pretty antiquated. The RHS block is a much better piece.
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Originally Posted by NJLS708
Yes the LS3 has thicker side walls but still really isn't built for major amounts of boost. It is a bit better than the LS7 but still not going to handle 1000hp for any extended periods of time. The reason I had mentioned the C5R block was because I have heard from many that you could boost it until the cows come home. Now with this thread i'm thinking maybe the RHS block may be my best option. For now (knock on wood) my LS7 is running like a clock with 800 at the crank. When I am ready for my new built I am going to boost this LS7 as far as it will go. Just to see for myself. I would also like to drop in some dished pistons to my LS7 and see how far it will go. I hear that the pistons are always the first to go and that the block actually hold up much better than what people give it credit for.
The C5R was great for NA and moderate boost. With higher boost the deck will crack between the cylinder bores.
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