Whipple 3.3L by Dragon Race Engineering
01-28-2010, 05:58 PM
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01-28-2010, 06:26 PM
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Magnacharger did not say anything about this system but they did say they have researched a lot into sc taht would fit under the hood and said if a good unit could be made to fit under a stock vette hood, they would be selling one. Again, they did not mention this system or reference\hint in anyway about it.
01-28-2010, 07:12 PM
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You also might change out that Teflon tape on the fuel rails for Teflon paste. If a little piece of tape comes off and clogs an injector, you'll never see it coming.
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01-28-2010, 11:32 PM
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That is the beauty of forced induction.. There are multiple ways to skin a cat.
But I would rather have a "Bulge" in the hood, then leave a trail of oil on the freeway cuz you shoved a rod through the block due to detonation..
But hey, at least when its sittin on the side of the freeway, the Corvette pureists wont scough at your aftermarket hood..
Just playing with you.
Im just saying tha "If" there needs to be a choice between Form and Function, it should come down to function.
But I would rather have a "Bulge" in the hood, then leave a trail of oil on the freeway cuz you shoved a rod through the block due to detonation..
But hey, at least when its sittin on the side of the freeway, the Corvette pureists wont scough at your aftermarket hood..
Just playing with you.
Im just saying tha "If" there needs to be a choice between Form and Function, it should come down to function.
01-28-2010, 11:51 PM
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They could make a good unit that fits under a stock hood (like E-Force, and GM) but that would require a lot of retooling. and they did not want to spend the major $$ to do so.
01-30-2010, 09:59 AM
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St. Jude Donor '09-'10
I think one of the biggest selling points of this system, and one of the big reasons why people are interested in it, and in the new Edelbrock supercharger, is because a lot of Corvette owners (myself included) really don't like the look of a C6 with a big bulge in the middle of the hood... If the only way to get a Twin Screw or a TVS supercharger to work on these cars is by having an aftermarket hood, then a positive displacement blower is just not for me.
You should take a closer look at my EPP hood. It clears a TVS2300 and is so subtle, you would not know it's aftermarket unless you are an expert or have two cars side by side. The designer did a fantastic job blending surfaces to compliment the natural look of the c6.
01-30-2010, 10:10 AM
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St. Jude Donor '09-'10
I have a 3.3 Whipple on my LS7 Trailblazer SS.
I have 2 HUGE heat exchangers up front and a swimming pool pump (almost) to circulate the coolant. On a 60 degree day, my IATs are in the 160 range, just cruising. I'm afraid it's just the nature of the beast.
It's a cool blower though. It looks pretty impressive when the Trailblazer lights all 4 tires!
I have 2 HUGE heat exchangers up front and a swimming pool pump (almost) to circulate the coolant. On a 60 degree day, my IATs are in the 160 range, just cruising. I'm afraid it's just the nature of the beast.
It's a cool blower though. It looks pretty impressive when the Trailblazer lights all 4 tires!
Is there any reason why he couldn't run a centri intercooler, or is the heat soak just that bad?
01-30-2010, 10:25 AM
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Think about where you'd put that air/air heat exchanger. Between the supercharger and the engine? THe blower would have to be at the roof line for it to fit
01-30-2010, 10:29 AM
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I misread Andy's post. I was thinking about having a big water to air in front of the radiator feeding the sandwich intercooler, but that is what he is doing already.
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01-30-2010, 04:38 PM
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This is a finished product? I thought it was a prototype. Not good for advertising with other great products out there. stock hood or no stock hood I would be pissed if the UPS man brought that to me...........
01-30-2010, 05:20 PM
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I would be pissed it took 3+ months to get it to UPS, pissed UPS dropped it, pissed my system looked the way it did after 3 months, pissed he is not getting a new one sent back to him the day they receive the one they originally sent.. I would just be pissed if I was the OP, get my $$ back and purchase a different system..
01-31-2010, 03:56 PM
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"There are over 70 machine hours and 22 assembly hours in each manifold/supercharger assembly and a lot of very specific parts that cannot be manufactured with conventional casting or other methods."
I am in this for function, bling is important and I agree they could have done some things that would "Pretty things up". This however would drive the cost of this unit up even further. If you notice in the published pictures the rear section of the manifold isn't even visible when installed. As a matter of fact its very hard to see any part of the manifold when installed. I think we should all reserve judgment of the Dragon system until the install and dyno numbers are posted. I am hoping for 175 - 200 increase in rwhp and torque.
01-31-2010, 05:12 PM
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How do those fishing bait water pumps hold up to 200F water temps and 150+ under hood temps? Not sure that they have been tested by the manufacturer at those temps considering minnows and shimp don't live in 200f water. This smells a little fishy to me.
01-31-2010, 07:53 PM
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NOPE!
http://www.rule-industries.com/files/itemdoc134801.pdf
damm a fish pump!!
i dont know wether to laugh or cry.
01-31-2010, 08:24 PM
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01-31-2010, 09:31 PM
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LOL I thought you were kidding..
NOPE!
http://www.rule-industries.com/files/itemdoc134801.pdf
damm a fish pump!!
i dont know wether to laugh or cry.
NOPE!
http://www.rule-industries.com/files/itemdoc134801.pdf
damm a fish pump!!
i dont know wether to laugh or cry.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=rule+...5311d5ec9ae78f
Apparently it is pretty popular option due to the fact it's low cost and can move up to 8.3 GPM thru the intercooler. There are some other high capacity pumps costing sever hundred that can't do that.
01-31-2010, 10:27 PM
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I know it may seem a little unorthodox but believe it or not dragon isn't the only one using it for intercooler setups. Check the google search below.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=rule+...5311d5ec9ae78f
Apparently it is pretty popular option due to the fact it's low cost and can move up to 8.3 GPM thru the intercooler. There are some other high capacity pumps costing sever hundred that can't do that.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=rule+...5311d5ec9ae78f
Apparently it is pretty popular option due to the fact it's low cost and can move up to 8.3 GPM thru the intercooler. There are some other high capacity pumps costing sever hundred that can't do that.
take my advice, get your $ back ASAP and buy a proven kit.. with all these vendors offering $5500 out the door installed\tuned prices.. You can get a a SC system, buildt tranny, and full exhaust for the same price..
they posted there best results on there website already.. Speaks for itself man.. and does not even go into temps and such.. Not hating bro, just hope you get your hard earned moneys worth is all..
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