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Old 01-16-2008, 10:39 PM   #1
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I am seriously entertaining the very costly idea of Supercharging this 2006 Vette of mine. A few things i am concerned about:
1. Does this mod void any factory warranty on the car? I notice my local Chevy dealer here in Vegas has a 2008 C6 in their showroom with the Pro Charger installed(asking 72,000 for it YIKES).
2. According to several sites, the COMPLETE kit sells for about $6500.00. What would be the labor charge for this 8-10 installation? I do not believe I would tackle this on my own!
3. I realize that this is more of a WANT item rather than a NEED item...Im just a plain ol Horsepower hound! Some folks have told me that my 2 on board computers(2 because its an automatic) would need to be sent somewhere? Is this a true statement?

Any help with this MAJOR decision would be of interest to me. Has anyone else been in this same situation as I am in?

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Old 01-16-2008, 10:47 PM   #2
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You might want to post this in the forcred induction section, they call answer all your questions. Search over there also youll learn tons.
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Old 01-16-2008, 10:53 PM   #3
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I've had my ProCharger on for about 2-1/2 years. My servicing dealer has absolutely no issue with warranty service, but I do have a long and good relationship with my service manager. Of course when it comes to drivetrain or engine damage it will be a problem. Depending who installs and what additions to the ProCharger you choose, 8-11k.
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ATI has a good product but I dont like their business practices and choose to stand beside A&A coevettes and East Coast Supercharging. Lets call it a forum tuner unity protest.
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I've had nothing but great service from ATI...and nothing but crap from Vortech.
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I've had nothing but great service from ATI...and nothing but crap from Vortech.
The bracket on your ATI was an stolen design. After the design changes, ATI implimented a new policy where the head units couldnt be bought by tuners without the braket they make which is inferior to the A&A and ECS versions. I beleive there was also a minimum they had to buy of these full kits. ATI posted that it was a universal policy but it targeted few tuners that have a corvette bracket of their own. Are there other companies who would buy a head unit and make their own bracket for a corvette? I think the list is small. I have dealt with both A&A and ECS and choose to believe their side of the story.

It was a big post war way back when and all parties went their separate ways. The end result was that A&A now uses a vortec head unit and ECS uses a paxton.
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ECS has good stuff, but the Vortech just sucks. I had nothing but a nightmare with mine.
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Old 01-17-2008, 12:59 AM   #8
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I have the ATI Procharger for a little over a year and love it. I’ll also move this over to FI.

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GM designed, built, and tested the engine in the Corvette to be a naturally aspirated engine. If you slap a supercharger in there and force it to produce power levels far beyond anything it was ever designed to do, and then something breaks, would you really expect the dealership to just move that supercharger to the side and go fix what it broke for free?
If your transmission granades from a 500RWHP launch, or your halfshafts snap, or the clutch fails, would you expect the dealership to overlook the fact that your car is producing a few hundred HP above what those parts were designed to handle, and just fix that for free as well?

I wouldn't.

I've never owned a vehicle that wasn't modded, but I've also owned modded vehicles that blew engines, ate clutches, broke transmissions, etc. I've lost a LOT of money like that... I don't *think* a boosted 'Vette is a particularly unreliable vehicle, but you do pay to play... You want a supercharger AND a warranty? Go buy a ZR-1... If GM could warrantee you 500 supercharged horses out of an LS2 or LS3, they would!

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Old 01-17-2008, 02:27 AM   #10
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I think you will love it - I have 10K miles on my Procharger settup and the power ( especially now in the cold weather ) is downright scary at times .

I have to agree with Spinmonster though , I would go with the ECS settup . They seem to be better engineered visa vi the bracket , intercooler ect . Any of the three big centri co's will give you an amazing jump in power .

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Check out A&A. He's not too far of a drive.
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:06 AM   #12
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The ATI ProCharger C6 bracket assembly is a very nice bracket assembly, and it makes it easy to change belts.
Check out this C6 that only had 300 miles on it when we installed an ATI ProCharger P-1SC-1. We dynoed it before and after the ProCharger was installed. http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=30 Bob
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GM designed, built, and tested the engine in the Corvette to be a naturally aspirated engine. If you slap a supercharger in there and force it to produce power levels far beyond anything it was ever designed to do, and then something breaks, would you really expect the dealership to just move that supercharger to the side and go fix what it broke for free?
If your transmission granades from a 500RWHP launch, or your halfshafts snap, or the clutch fails, would you expect the dealership to overlook the fact that your car is producing a few hundred HP above what those parts were designed to handle, and just fix that for free as well?

I wouldn't.

I've never owned a vehicle that wasn't modded, but I've also owned modded vehicles that blew engines, ate clutches, broke transmissions, etc. I've lost a LOT of money like that... I don't *think* a boosted 'Vette is a particularly unreliable vehicle, but you do pay to play... You want a supercharger AND a warranty? Go buy a ZR-1... If GM could warrantee you 500 supercharged horses out of an LS2 or LS3, they would!

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There have been lots of cars far into the 600's without issue even after 25k miles. For 10 years they have shown this engine and driveline can handle it.

No warranty covers a modded engine.

The engine is actually very well designed to handle boost. The cracked rod design for the connecting rods 6 bolt mains and great airflow potential make it an ideal design for FI. One should have a good laugh at some production engines 'designed' for FI.
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There have been lots of cars far into the 600's without issue even after 25k miles. For 10 years they have shown this engine and driveline can handle it.

No warranty covers a modded engine.

The engine is actually very well designed to handle boost. The cracked rod design for the connecting rods 6 bolt mains and great airflow potential make it an ideal design for FI. One should have a good laugh at some production engines 'designed' for FI.
Yes, but the factory motor will go over 100K miles. Will a boosted one do that?

I think its a very strong motor; in fact I may well boost mine one day, but the original poster asked about warranty, and the answer to that is "no", and the reason for that is because the more power you make, the less time it lasts... Simple physics
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