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Old 01-13-2008, 11:17 AM   #1
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Is magnacharger the only one that warrants the engine from damage? How does that work, if you break a pat in the engine, they will cover it?

is the new zr1 supercharger as high as the magnason? They both require a different hood? Will the zr1 hood or replica fit over a magnason?

Pretty much thats about it. 436 horsepower is way too slow. I need more but I really don't feel like voiding the warranty. I could deal with the zr1 hood, don't really like the rest of the hoods.
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:15 PM   #2
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I've asked this same question a few times and have never had an answer. I, too, would like to know if anyone has ever had a maggie claim, and if it was covered. My guess is that there is the fine print that would make it more costly to fight the claim, than to simply fix the car.
And yes, all maggie installs require a new hood. Some have circumvented this by cutting their hood, and allowing the sc to protrude through. Looks kinda cool, but the stealthiness is lost.
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:51 PM   #3
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This is a guess,but I believe the installing dealer is the one offering the warranty not GM..
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This is a guess,but I believe the installing dealer is the one offering the warranty not GM..
No gm dealer is gonna warranty a blown motor if it has a supercharger on it. Flat out. Now if your power steering pump goes out its not directly related thats another story.

If you read that fine print on the extended warranty that they offer is only covers $3000 towards the engine and $2000 towards the transmission.
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:28 PM   #5
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Not to start any wars, but I've been advised that the Maggie pushes hotter air into the motor then a centrifugal blower, thereby increasing the chance of detonation.
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Old 01-14-2008, 05:35 PM   #6
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Not to start any wars, but I've been advised that the Maggie pushes hotter air into the motor then a centrifugal blower, thereby increasing the chance of detonation.
Thats right, a centrifugal supercharger is thermally more efficient than a Roots supercharger.
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:05 PM   #7
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Thats right, a centrifugal supercharger is thermally more efficient than a Roots supercharger.
And on the same advise, a maggie needs a different cam as it runs out of steam as the RPM's increase. Plus there's the hood swap. So realistically, what is the out the door installed figure on a maggie?
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Thats right, a centrifugal supercharger is thermally more efficient than a Roots supercharger.
Buy a procharger and a set of headers and be done with it.
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Old 01-14-2008, 11:17 PM   #9
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And on the same advise, a maggie needs a different cam as it runs out of steam as the RPM's increase. Plus there's the hood swap. So realistically, what is the out the door installed figure on a maggie?
Runs out of steam as the RPMs increase???????? Mine makes peak hp at 6500 rpms (on the stock cam).
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Old 01-15-2008, 12:09 AM   #10
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Runs out of steam as the RPMs increase???????? Mine makes peak hp at 6500 rpms (on the stock cam).
As I said previously, I'm not trying to turn this into a standoff between supercharger styles.
If you could share more info on your setup and possibly post a dyno chart that would be awesome
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The centri blowers will make power as far as you can rev them. The maggie will peak lower but make a mountain of tq. I do maintain though that on a motor like the LS2 that already makes a buttload of tq, why would you want more. I'd rather have my normal tq, then a HUGE rush of power all the way to redline. My car already spins off the line, and a roots blower would just make that worse.
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Old 01-15-2008, 09:20 AM   #12
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As I said previously, I'm not trying to turn this into a standoff between supercharger styles.
If you could share more info on your setup and possibly post a dyno chart that would be awesome
No problem . I've heard this statement before (A tuner even told me that a magnuson won't pull past 5000 rpms ). I know a centri will pull harder up top, but a magnuson doesn't "quit pulling".
I've owned a centrifugal car and driven many others....after owning my magnuson, I will never own a centrifugal again (they feel tame to me....like a h&c pkg). I know you can make more power with a centrifugal...that doesn't matter to me....you don't need to make 600 rwhp with a positive displacement blower. I always seem to be the maggie defender in these threads. I had quit replying to these threads because they always turn into the same thing. My point is this: there is no "perfect" blower for everyone....I'm always amazed that people will jump in the middle of a thread and say you need to buy this. If you are interested in going forced induction...my suggestion is to talk to as many owners as you can...do your homework. Rant :OFF Here's one of my dynos for you (and remember, this is the smaller M112) .


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No problem . I've heard this statement before (A tuner even told me that a magnuson won't pull past 5000 rpms ). I know a centri will pull harder up top, but a magnuson doesn't "quit pulling".
Wow, that is impressive. It's like a wall of tq right off idle
In your profile you list Z06 rubber. Could you be more specific as to rear wheel size/brand? Did you tub or flare the rear to make room for the tires?
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Old 01-15-2008, 02:47 PM   #14
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[quote=sampson;1563632005]Wow, that is impressive. It's like a wall of tq right off idle
That's what a Maggie is all about,monster power under the curve.
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Wow, that is impressive. It's like a wall of tq right off idle
That's what a Maggie is all about,monster power under the curve.
But my main concern is getting that monster power effectively to the ground on a non racing platform. Is it possible?
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Old 01-15-2008, 03:16 PM   #16
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Short answer. NO. I have 345PS2s and it has no traction until 4th gear. You just have to learn how to drive it with all that power.
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Old 01-15-2008, 03:45 PM   #17
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Wow, that is impressive. It's like a wall of tq right off idle
In your profile you list Z06 rubber. Could you be more specific as to rear wheel size/brand? Did you tub or flare the rear to make room for the tires?
I'm running stock C6 Zo6 rubber (275 F/325 R
Goodyear Supercars) on CCW wheels. CCW has the offset just right, you can run this size tire on the stock narrow body (no tubs....no flared fenders). The tires sit right on the edge of the fenders. I posted pictures in the General section a couple of weeks ago (you can look it up if you want to). Can I put all of this to the ground? No.....not even close! Some people might look at this as a waste of power, but the maggie is very linear.....you can control the power output pretty easily. I've owned alot of vehicles...none of them have had the "fun factor" of this car. I haven't talked to a dissappointed maggie owner, that says something.
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No problem . I've heard this statement before (A tuner even told me that a magnuson won't pull past 5000 rpms ). I know a centri will pull harder up top, but a magnuson doesn't "quit pulling".
I've owned a centrifugal car and driven many others....after owning my magnuson, I will never own a centrifugal again (they feel tame to me....like a h&c pkg). I know you can make more power with a centrifugal...that doesn't matter to me....you don't need to make 600 rwhp with a positive displacement blower. I always seem to be the maggie defender in these threads. I had quit replying to these threads because they always turn into the same thing. My point is this: there is no "perfect" blower for everyone....I'm always amazed that people will jump in the middle of a thread and say you need to buy this. If you are interested in going forced induction...my suggestion is to talk to as many owners as you can...do your homework. Rant :OFF Here's one of my dynos for you (and remember, this is the smaller M112) .

I know what your talking about!!! My car does not stop pulling and it's scary fast!! In the video you can see at the end my car is all over the road and my back tires are the biggest you can buy 345 bfg drag tires. I can't hook 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear, what more can someone need!http://media.putfile.com/Funcool-at-the-Dyno-Oct2007
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We need you more on this forum FunCool........I'm vastly outnumbered.
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dropped off my car with Chris at ECS this morning for a Maggie install on my 2005 Z51. Now I am getting excited. Chris make my car mean. love the low end power.
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