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Old 02-12-2007, 12:31 PM   #1
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Default Traction Vs Power

I am VERY impressed with the unbelieveable amount of RWHP which you guys are making on some of your cars. It would also appear that a lot of people are having real problems with traction. This might be an oversimplification but if 2 cars have the same RWHP whichever car can maximize the traction and get the most HP to the ground will be the faster car.
The above being said I am wondering if there is a way, especially with all of the electronics available today to bring the power on in a linear way where you don't just blow the tires off the car? I am specifically interested in doing this with some type of supercharge/turbocharger setup.(*I know in Nitrous type cars they can do this in either steps or even a linear type fashion)
All of you manufacturers such as APS, STS, Magnuson, etc. please feel free to advise.
Thanks in advance.
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:33 PM   #2
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its called a gas pedal
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Old 02-12-2007, 03:34 PM   #3
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Many boost controllers offer boost variation by RPM/speed.
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I think you want Renault's F1 traction control system.
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Old 02-12-2007, 09:24 PM   #5
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Default I thought 450 RWHP was bad...

My C5Z has a wimpy 457 rwhp and I'm practicing throttle control as best I can, no way I can floor it in 1st gear.
I wish our cars had a traction control system like Mercedes Benz. Their big HP cars always run much quicker with the TC on. I read that Dodge limits the throttle to only 75% in 1st gear for their 420 hp SRT8 SUV. I've always wondered if that can be done to Vette's via tuning, in the meantime - like dennis50nj said...
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its called a gas pedal
My problems the heavy foot on the gas pedal
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Many boost controllers offer boost variation by RPM/speed.
Also by gear. TBC-1.
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i have it on good authority that the ss will have launch control
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:04 PM   #9
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you could always add your own TC system

http://www.racelogic.co.uk/?show=Traction_Control
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you could always add your own TC system

http://www.racelogic.co.uk/?show=Traction_Control
Wow, this is interesting. It sounds better than the factory TC system. It can sample at a rate of .001 seconds. What rate does the GM TC sample at?
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Wow, this is interesting. It sounds better than the factory TC system. It can sample at a rate of .001 seconds. What rate does the GM TC sample at?

not sure on the GM sampling rate...but I have a customer in Austria running a blown Big Block Drag car on unprepped airfield/drag strips.
His car runs 7.20's on a prepped track

He is shooting for 8.50's on an unprepped surface.


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not sure on the GM sampling rate...but I have a customer in Austria running a blown Big Block Drag car on unprepped airfield/drag strips.
His car runs 7.20's on a prepped track

He is shooting for 8.50's on an unprepped surface.


Very Cool! He is going to use the Race Logic TC system?
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I think that the problem is that most don't learn, nor take the time to understand there car! Launching a high horse powered car on the street takes skill and a lot of trial and error. You have to ask your self do you want a street car or a drag car. The set up is a lot different between the too. All I can say is learn your car, practice makes perfect.
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Very Cool! He is going to use the Race Logic TC system?

Yes he is using the racelogic system...he is the one that turned me on to it.

He says it is the only way he can get the car down the lane on an unprepped surface.

this is before the TC system

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsSVzih6tfE
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I think that the problem is that most don't learn, nor take the time to understand their car's limits
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