Dealing with cash only sellers.
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
Dealing with cash only sellers.
So I found a c6 I want, and the seller only accepts cash. He says it's for tax reasons. I called my bank to ask about this, and they will not give out that much cash.. It's my money and I can not withdraw it? I'm sure some of you have paid with cash before.. What do I do? My bank is bank of America.
#4
Melting Slicks
cash and the IRS
So I found a c6 I want, and the seller only accepts cash. He says it's for tax reasons. I called my bank to ask about this, and they will not give out that much cash.. It's my money and I can not withdraw it? I'm sure some of you have paid with cash before.. What do I do? My bank is bank of America.
steve
#6
Hi; I would ask them for a certified check , It is as good as cash... Ask the seller if he would accept a bank certified check as payment.... The check is just like cash, no questions asked. that is your business not the banks... If they cant do a certified check...... GET RID OF THAT BANK AND FIND ANOTHER ONE.... ITS YOUR MONEY NOT THEIRS THEY HOLD IT FOR SAFE KEEPING THATS ALL.... GOOD LUCK HAPPY BANKING
#7
Instructor
Thread Starter
I finally got through with someone after calling a west coast bank before they shut down for the day. It took 2 different phone calls and talked to 4 different people. Finally someone actually knew what I was talking about. They ordered the money finally.
#8
Drifting
Make sure the car is real as well - lots of risk with cash - check the vin vs the title - make sure everything is 100% since this is a one way trip with cash buyers and sellers.
And yes your bank should let you have what ever cash you want - its none of their business what you do with it.
The IRS may ask since you exceed the 10,000 notification limits but that's a different discussion.
And yes your bank should let you have what ever cash you want - its none of their business what you do with it.
The IRS may ask since you exceed the 10,000 notification limits but that's a different discussion.
#9
Racer
Bank of A, how ridiculous. That's why they were in the worst shape of the "big banks" in 2008. Just poor management. I'd change to Chase or a regional bank that doesn't make you jump trough hoops because of this alone. Just make sure whoever you change to wouldn't give you the same issues next time you want cash.
#10
Melting Slicks
I pulled 40k from BoA locally but had to go to 3 branches to get it. I did not pre call.
They told me as long as I called 3 days ahead it would never be a problem again.
What you also need to be mindful of is the police can (and will) confiscate the cash if you get pulled over with it and it will be up to you to fight to get it back. And no, I'm not making this up.
It's likely the seller has some sort of financial trouble with the IRS because outside of that it shouldn't be an issue. The most the seller may want to have you do is multiple bank checks written for under 10k each so they can distribute it and not have the IRS form filled out.
They told me as long as I called 3 days ahead it would never be a problem again.
What you also need to be mindful of is the police can (and will) confiscate the cash if you get pulled over with it and it will be up to you to fight to get it back. And no, I'm not making this up.
It's likely the seller has some sort of financial trouble with the IRS because outside of that it shouldn't be an issue. The most the seller may want to have you do is multiple bank checks written for under 10k each so they can distribute it and not have the IRS form filled out.
#13
Banned Scam/Spammer
What you also need to be mindful of is the police can (and will) confiscate the cash if you get pulled over with it and it will be up to you to fight to get it back. And no, I'm not making this up.
Sorry but no on your statement. They can't just take your money. Been a LEO for 20 plus years and police can't just take your cash. If you can elaborate what you are referring to please do so.
Sorry but no on your statement. They can't just take your money. Been a LEO for 20 plus years and police can't just take your cash. If you can elaborate what you are referring to please do so.
#14
Race Director
What's the banks address?
How tall are you?
Roughly how old are you?
Roughly how much do you weigh?
What type of vehicle are you going to be driving to the bank in?
What is the color of the vehicle?
... And what time did you say you were going to be picking up this amount of money on Saturday?
How tall are you?
Roughly how old are you?
Roughly how much do you weigh?
What type of vehicle are you going to be driving to the bank in?
What is the color of the vehicle?
... And what time did you say you were going to be picking up this amount of money on Saturday?
#15
Melting Slicks
What you also need to be mindful of is the police can (and will) confiscate the cash if you get pulled over with it and it will be up to you to fight to get it back. And no, I'm not making this up.
Sorry but no on your statement. They can't just take your money. Been a LEO for 20 plus years and police can't just take your cash. If you can elaborate what you are referring to please do so.
Sorry but no on your statement. They can't just take your money. Been a LEO for 20 plus years and police can't just take your cash. If you can elaborate what you are referring to please do so.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/97-139.pdf
Right or wrong, civil forfeiture does take place in the US and has increased in recent years.
Here's an exerpt: "Civil forfeitures are accomplished using civil procedure. Civil forfeiture is ordinarily the product
of a civil, in rem proceeding in which the property is treated as the offender.31 Within the confines
of due process and the language of the applicable statutes, the guilt or innocence of the property
owner is irrelevant; it is enough that the property was involved in a crime to which forfeiture
attaches in the manner in which statute demands.32 Some civil forfeitures are accomplished
administratively; some are not. Administrative forfeitures are, in oversimplified terms,
uncontested civil forfeitures. "
Last edited by muncie21; 03-17-2015 at 11:01 PM.
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Cashiers checks are not what they once were. Some banks take up to two weeks to clear a cashiers check. Yes, you can call the bank it was pulled from and make sure its a good check however until it clears the buyer can still place a stop payment on it. I have been dealing with this over the last couple of months selling a different car than I have listed here. Ive talked to half a dozen banks about this. The shortest time frame was with Chase bank, they said 2-3 days however they can hold it longer if they want depending on where it was drawn from. So
i.e. Someone gives you a cashiers check, it checks out good with the bank, you hand your car over and they drive off and the next day or two they put a stop payment on it and now you are dealing with a bunch of **** lol. Just my 2 cents since i have directly dealt with this the last couple of months
Banks are saying due to increased fraud this is why the policy has changes, so no cashiers checks are not just as good as cash now.
i.e. Someone gives you a cashiers check, it checks out good with the bank, you hand your car over and they drive off and the next day or two they put a stop payment on it and now you are dealing with a bunch of **** lol. Just my 2 cents since i have directly dealt with this the last couple of months
Banks are saying due to increased fraud this is why the policy has changes, so no cashiers checks are not just as good as cash now.
#17
Banned Scam/Spammer
If you are truly interested in learning (as opposed to just being obstinate; which is OK too) take a few minutes and read this report from the Congressional Research Service, a legislative branch agency within the Library of Congress, regarding "Crime and Forfeiture".
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/97-139.pdf
Right or wrong, civil forfeiture does take place in the US and has increased in recent years.
Here's an exerpt: "Civil forfeitures are accomplished using civil procedure. Civil forfeiture is ordinarily the product
of a civil, in rem proceeding in which the property is treated as the offender.31 Within the confines
of due process and the language of the applicable statutes, the guilt or innocence of the property
owner is irrelevant; it is enough that the property was involved in a crime to which forfeiture
attaches in the manner in which statute demands.32 Some civil forfeitures are accomplished
administratively; some are not. Administrative forfeitures are, in oversimplified terms,
uncontested civil forfeitures. "
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/97-139.pdf
Right or wrong, civil forfeiture does take place in the US and has increased in recent years.
Here's an exerpt: "Civil forfeitures are accomplished using civil procedure. Civil forfeiture is ordinarily the product
of a civil, in rem proceeding in which the property is treated as the offender.31 Within the confines
of due process and the language of the applicable statutes, the guilt or innocence of the property
owner is irrelevant; it is enough that the property was involved in a crime to which forfeiture
attaches in the manner in which statute demands.32 Some civil forfeitures are accomplished
administratively; some are not. Administrative forfeitures are, in oversimplified terms,
uncontested civil forfeitures. "
#18
Drifting
You can take the check to the issuing bank and cash it right away; I've done that on several occasions with as much as $75k.
Cashiers checks are not what they once were. Some banks take up to two weeks to clear a cashiers check. Yes, you can call the bank it was pulled from and make sure its a good check however until it clears the buyer can still place a stop payment on it. I have been dealing with this over the last couple of months selling a different car than I have listed here. Ive talked to half a dozen banks about this. The shortest time frame was with Chase bank, they said 2-3 days however they can hold it longer if they want depending on where it was drawn from. So
i.e. Someone gives you a cashiers check, it checks out good with the bank, you hand your car over and they drive off and the next day or two they put a stop payment on it and now you are dealing with a bunch of **** lol. Just my 2 cents since i have directly dealt with this the last couple of months
Banks are saying due to increased fraud this is why the policy has changes, so no cashiers checks are not just as good as cash now.
i.e. Someone gives you a cashiers check, it checks out good with the bank, you hand your car over and they drive off and the next day or two they put a stop payment on it and now you are dealing with a bunch of **** lol. Just my 2 cents since i have directly dealt with this the last couple of months
Banks are saying due to increased fraud this is why the policy has changes, so no cashiers checks are not just as good as cash now.
#19
Instructor
Actually, banks are REQUIRED to notify the Government anytime you make a deposit or withdrawal of $10,000 or more. They also passed a law that allows the bank to report you for making several withdrawals or deposits of less than $10k if they think you are doing it just to avoid the $10k law.
They call that "structuring": making deposits deliberately calculated to skirt the reporting requirements.
Check out this article: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...bank-accounts/
The IRS seized nearly a million dollars from one business owner with no reason, no notice and no apology. It cost him $150,000 to get *most* of his money back.
They call that "structuring": making deposits deliberately calculated to skirt the reporting requirements.
Check out this article: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...bank-accounts/
The IRS seized nearly a million dollars from one business owner with no reason, no notice and no apology. It cost him $150,000 to get *most* of his money back.
#20
Melting Slicks
Yep, that's the world that 'we the people' created. I don't like it anymore than anyone else, but there is no cure for greed and power.