C7envy

So I am debating between these 3 cars.

The prices are 145k for the viper and 156k for the 911 this is just straight MSRP. I can get like 12k off the 911 and 6k off the viper.

The zr1 would be around 113k for a brand new 3zr but I'd send it to carvaggio for another 20k, and an akrapovic titanium exhaust with carbon tips for another 6k. So that brings the zr1 to 139k total.

So goes like this

zr1-139k
viper-139k
911-144k

Another option is wait for c7 zr1 but it is still going to get an akrapovic exhaust and carvaggio interior. So that would probably end up being around 145k the price of the 911 since I doubt GM will price the new zr1 more than 5k over the existing one.

Given these prices what would you guys get? I know this is a vette forum but please try to be objective.

cflm3

If you are going to track the car, get the ZR1.

As a daily driver, get the 911, more refined better built.

The Viper has large panel gaps and I understand not comfortable.

C7envy

911 carrera 4S. Not a GT3 or any track only porsche. I am basically getting the car for DD weekend duty. I am go to the track once a year MAYBE. I only really need to drive on weekends because I will be able to walk to work by then.

I want to redo the interior because I want ferrari or bentley level quality leather. The nappa leather is sh**. Porsche is up there, viper uses the same as ferrari, and caravaggio can make it even better. Plus I want the carbon fiber steering wheel and things like that.

With the 911 essentially I want the Torque vectoring, sport exhaust, all the carbon fiber interior trim, front and rear sensors, 14 way sport seats, full leather interior, electric glass roof, painted black wheels, adjustable suspension and stability control, carbon ceramic brakes. Idk it got up to an MSRP of 156k when I was done with it.

C7envy

Well I don't know if the viper rides comfortable. I sat in it and started it and it is very comfortable just sitting in it. I don't get the complaints with panel gaps, I don't really care about it.

05dsom

Have you driven the ZR1?

05dsom

Are there any 1Zr interiors available?
Why pay $10k extra for 3LT just to replace it?
P.S. you'll definitely want to replace the POS head unit and Bose speakers/amp if you re-do the interior--another reason to go 1Zr

C7envy

Hmm probably now that I think of it since I want to buy in a year all zr1s will most likely be used. So lets change the old zr1 to only the new future c7 zr1.

jvp

Then it's time to send this thread to the C7 section.

C7envy

Well you all drive zr1s so the new one won't be THAT much different from the current one. I mean there is only so much you can do once you are at that level of performance. It will just look nicer inside and out will be the biggest difference.

05dsom

^fixed

FloydSummerOf68

Holy smokes....156 for a 4S?

My dad picked up a new 911T a few years ago with a lower MSRP. That must be SERIOUSLY optioned out to add a little over 50k to the MSRP.

The porsche is a fantastic car and has been trouble free for my old man for over 20k miles now which includes drag racing it and road coursing it. The car is very fast with just a tune and porsche-installed short throw shifter and gives you a LOT of confidence around a track due to the AWD....I personally think the porsche is definitely the easier car to drive quickly. The 4S will be just as easy to drive, just lacking the turbos.

The ZR1 is a beast. At the end of the day though I honestly can't see dropping that kind of money on a Corvette. If you want a track monster and want to take the time to learn to push it then it's going to be the quickest car.

I have no experience in or around a new Viper. You're paying a lot here for exclusivity, and sometimes that's worth a lot

All three will be fast and capable. As you've noted, the ZR1 will need the most help from aftermarket to get into the same league as the others in terms of comfort and class.

I don't think you can make a bad choice here. All of these cars are dream cars for most and back up their reputation. Drive em all and see which feels the best as all will have a very different feel to them.

C7envy

Yea unfortunately it is hard for me to find a dealer to let me drive a viper. But yea the cars are mostly for street driving. I don't really go on the track. I do that maybe once a year so I want the car that gives the most comfort and usable performance on the street. Also needs to have good build quality, look good, and feel good. Not to mention sound good.

I would get a turbo S but then its 200k lol. But yea my 4s is REALLY optioned out with pretty much everything.

911/Q45

For the kind of driving you're planning, a VW Beetle convertible should be ideal.

C7envy

Lol. Well then I'll be like 99% of the other buyers who get cars like this.

camirocz

Honestly the way you re talking just get the turbo s.I think its the best car out there. Spend it but have the ultimate .

rocknroller

Get all three.

C7envy

I would but 200k is out of my price range. Plus at that point I'd get a used ferrari.

C7envy

This would be the ideal solution.

ehteam81

Hey i have a 12 Z did the full Interior at Caravaggio and just picked up a 911 4S they fell totally different if you get get both i'm having so much fun with the 4S i might be upgrading to a Turbo next year. Cheers

C7envy

Which do you prefer to drive? Which do you drive more often? Also hey post pics of both come on now lol.