[ZR1] No lift shifting?
03-11-2012, 09:17 PM
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Launch control allows no lift (throttle) shifting. Remember, tho, it only works if you've properly activated LC at the outset and you've kept the throttle completely buried.
You lift the throttle at all, and it you come out of LC mode.
You can shift thru several gears with it. I've shifted all the way into 4th with it.
You lift the throttle at all, and it you come out of LC mode.
You can shift thru several gears with it. I've shifted all the way into 4th with it.
03-11-2012, 09:23 PM
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Launch control is enabled in any of the 5 PTM modes, when the steering wheel is straight and the clutch pedal is depressed.
And NO, the Chevy Cobalt does not have this feature.
With Launch control you can do full throttle shifts (as long as you have the pedal fully buried).
And NO, the Chevy Cobalt does not have this feature.
With Launch control you can do full throttle shifts (as long as you have the pedal fully buried).
03-11-2012, 09:41 PM
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03-11-2012, 09:45 PM
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He is obviously kidding. I don't know specifically if that is a programmed feature with ptm. Some have said that it is but I have not actually tried it. I will say that you can power shift ( no lift shift ) any manual especially the ZR1 since it has a rev limiter. I'm pretty sure the guys that have ran the best times on the strip have power shifted. I would not do it a lot though unless you're racing someone on the track or trying for a good ET since it is harder on the tranny, rearend, and clutch.
03-11-2012, 10:20 PM
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He is obviously kidding. I don't know specifically if that is a programmed feature with ptm. Some have said that it is but I have not actually tried it. I will say that you can power shift ( no lift shift ) any manual especially the ZR1 since it has a rev limiter. I'm pretty sure the guys that have ran the best times on the strip have power shifted. I would not do it a lot though unless you're racing someone on the track or trying for a good ET since it is harder on the tranny, rearend, and clutch.
03-11-2012, 10:43 PM
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Any one of the 5 PTM settings. Steering wheel straight. At a standing stop. Clutch in, bury the throttle. LC will hold rpms just above 4k. Do a swift clutch release, keep throttle buried and you can do no lift shifts as you hang on (assuming the oversized grin doesn't blur your vision).
03-11-2012, 10:50 PM
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Any one of the 5 PTM settings. Steering wheel straight. At a standing stop. Clutch in, bury the throttle. LC will hold rpms just above 4k. Do a swift clutch release, keep throttle buried and you can do no lift shifts as you hang on (assuming the oversized grin doesn't blur your vision).
03-11-2012, 10:59 PM
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Never tried that. But assuming you keep the throttle buried I presume it manages the rpm just like a quick shift.
The is key is to not lift. If you lift any at all, your are then out of LC mode.
03-12-2012, 12:27 AM
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I wasn't trying to be condesending or trying to imply you knew nothing about power shifting. I was was just using it as the phrase instead of no lift shifting. Sorry I wasn't able to answer your question for I wasn't sure about that function in the PTM. I have heard others talking about that function but I have never read or seen anything from General Motors talking about the no lift shift function.
03-12-2012, 12:54 AM
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As always RTFM.
Here is the description of Launch Control from the 2010 Owner's Manual:
Launch Control
A Launch Control feature is available, within Competitive Driving Mode (except ZR1) or Performance Traction Management (ZR1), on vehicles with a manual transmission to allow the driver to achieve high levels of vehicle acceleration in a straight line. Launch Control is a form of traction control that manages tire spin while launching the vehicle. This feature is intended for use during closed course race events where consistent zero to sixty and quarter mile times are desirable.
Launch Control is only available when the following criteria are met:
• Competitive Driving Mode is selected (except ZR1) or any of the Performance Traction Management modes are selected (ZR1). The TCS light comes on the instrument panel and the appropriate DIC message displays.
• The vehicle is not moving.
• The steering wheel is pointing straight.
• The clutch is pressed and the vehicle is in first gear.
• The accelerator pedal is rapidly applied to wide open throttle.
The Launch Control feature will initially limit engine speed as the driver rapidly applies the accelerator pedal to wide open throttle. A smooth, quick release of the clutch, while maintaining the fully pressed accelerator pedal, will manage wheel slip. Complete shifts as described in Manual Transmission Operation on page 3-31. After the vehicle is launched, the system continues in Competitive Mode (except ZR1) or Performance Traction Management (ZR1).
Competitive Driving Mode, Performance Traction Management, and Launch Control are systems designed for a closed course race track and not intended for use on public roads. The systems are not intended to compensate for lack of driver experience or familiarity with the race track.
Bill
Here is the description of Launch Control from the 2010 Owner's Manual:
Launch Control
A Launch Control feature is available, within Competitive Driving Mode (except ZR1) or Performance Traction Management (ZR1), on vehicles with a manual transmission to allow the driver to achieve high levels of vehicle acceleration in a straight line. Launch Control is a form of traction control that manages tire spin while launching the vehicle. This feature is intended for use during closed course race events where consistent zero to sixty and quarter mile times are desirable.
Launch Control is only available when the following criteria are met:
• Competitive Driving Mode is selected (except ZR1) or any of the Performance Traction Management modes are selected (ZR1). The TCS light comes on the instrument panel and the appropriate DIC message displays.
• The vehicle is not moving.
• The steering wheel is pointing straight.
• The clutch is pressed and the vehicle is in first gear.
• The accelerator pedal is rapidly applied to wide open throttle.
The Launch Control feature will initially limit engine speed as the driver rapidly applies the accelerator pedal to wide open throttle. A smooth, quick release of the clutch, while maintaining the fully pressed accelerator pedal, will manage wheel slip. Complete shifts as described in Manual Transmission Operation on page 3-31. After the vehicle is launched, the system continues in Competitive Mode (except ZR1) or Performance Traction Management (ZR1).
Competitive Driving Mode, Performance Traction Management, and Launch Control are systems designed for a closed course race track and not intended for use on public roads. The systems are not intended to compensate for lack of driver experience or familiarity with the race track.
Bill
03-12-2012, 06:29 AM
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As always RTFM.
Here is the description of Launch Control from the 2010 Owner's Manual:
Launch Control
A Launch Control feature is available, within Competitive Driving Mode (except ZR1) or Performance Traction Management (ZR1), on vehicles with a manual transmission to allow the driver to achieve high levels of vehicle acceleration in a straight line. Launch Control is a form of traction control that manages tire spin while launching the vehicle. This feature is intended for use during closed course race events where consistent zero to sixty and quarter mile times are desirable.
Launch Control is only available when the following criteria are met:
• Competitive Driving Mode is selected (except ZR1) or any of the Performance Traction Management modes are selected (ZR1). The TCS light comes on the instrument panel and the appropriate DIC message displays.
• The vehicle is not moving.
• The steering wheel is pointing straight.
• The clutch is pressed and the vehicle is in first gear.
• The accelerator pedal is rapidly applied to wide open throttle.
The Launch Control feature will initially limit engine speed as the driver rapidly applies the accelerator pedal to wide open throttle. A smooth, quick release of the clutch, while maintaining the fully pressed accelerator pedal, will manage wheel slip. Complete shifts as described in Manual Transmission Operation on page 3-31. After the vehicle is launched, the system continues in Competitive Mode (except ZR1) or Performance Traction Management (ZR1).
Competitive Driving Mode, Performance Traction Management, and Launch Control are systems designed for a closed course race track and not intended for use on public roads. The systems are not intended to compensate for lack of driver experience or familiarity with the race track.
Bill
Here is the description of Launch Control from the 2010 Owner's Manual:
Launch Control
A Launch Control feature is available, within Competitive Driving Mode (except ZR1) or Performance Traction Management (ZR1), on vehicles with a manual transmission to allow the driver to achieve high levels of vehicle acceleration in a straight line. Launch Control is a form of traction control that manages tire spin while launching the vehicle. This feature is intended for use during closed course race events where consistent zero to sixty and quarter mile times are desirable.
Launch Control is only available when the following criteria are met:
• Competitive Driving Mode is selected (except ZR1) or any of the Performance Traction Management modes are selected (ZR1). The TCS light comes on the instrument panel and the appropriate DIC message displays.
• The vehicle is not moving.
• The steering wheel is pointing straight.
• The clutch is pressed and the vehicle is in first gear.
• The accelerator pedal is rapidly applied to wide open throttle.
The Launch Control feature will initially limit engine speed as the driver rapidly applies the accelerator pedal to wide open throttle. A smooth, quick release of the clutch, while maintaining the fully pressed accelerator pedal, will manage wheel slip. Complete shifts as described in Manual Transmission Operation on page 3-31. After the vehicle is launched, the system continues in Competitive Mode (except ZR1) or Performance Traction Management (ZR1).
Competitive Driving Mode, Performance Traction Management, and Launch Control are systems designed for a closed course race track and not intended for use on public roads. The systems are not intended to compensate for lack of driver experience or familiarity with the race track.
Bill
You would think if it did,GM would have made some mention of it along the line somewhere.
03-12-2012, 08:48 AM
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Burning Brakes
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As always RTFM.
Here is the description of Launch Control from the 2010 Owner's Manual:
Launch Control
A Launch Control feature is available, within Competitive Driving Mode (except ZR1) or Performance Traction Management (ZR1), on vehicles with a manual transmission to allow the driver to achieve high levels of vehicle acceleration in a straight line. Launch Control is a form of traction control that manages tire spin while launching the vehicle. This feature is intended for use during closed course race events where consistent zero to sixty and quarter mile times are desirable.
Launch Control is only available when the following criteria are met:
• Competitive Driving Mode is selected (except ZR1) or any of the Performance Traction Management modes are selected (ZR1). The TCS light comes on the instrument panel and the appropriate DIC message displays.
• The vehicle is not moving.
• The steering wheel is pointing straight.
• The clutch is pressed and the vehicle is in first gear.
• The accelerator pedal is rapidly applied to wide open throttle.
The Launch Control feature will initially limit engine speed as the driver rapidly applies the accelerator pedal to wide open throttle. A smooth, quick release of the clutch, while maintaining the fully pressed accelerator pedal, will manage wheel slip. Complete shifts as described in Manual Transmission Operation on page 3-31. After the vehicle is launched, the system continues in Competitive Mode (except ZR1) or Performance Traction Management (ZR1).
Competitive Driving Mode, Performance Traction Management, and Launch Control are systems designed for a closed course race track and not intended for use on public roads. The systems are not intended to compensate for lack of driver experience or familiarity with the race track.
Bill
Here is the description of Launch Control from the 2010 Owner's Manual:
Launch Control
A Launch Control feature is available, within Competitive Driving Mode (except ZR1) or Performance Traction Management (ZR1), on vehicles with a manual transmission to allow the driver to achieve high levels of vehicle acceleration in a straight line. Launch Control is a form of traction control that manages tire spin while launching the vehicle. This feature is intended for use during closed course race events where consistent zero to sixty and quarter mile times are desirable.
Launch Control is only available when the following criteria are met:
• Competitive Driving Mode is selected (except ZR1) or any of the Performance Traction Management modes are selected (ZR1). The TCS light comes on the instrument panel and the appropriate DIC message displays.
• The vehicle is not moving.
• The steering wheel is pointing straight.
• The clutch is pressed and the vehicle is in first gear.
• The accelerator pedal is rapidly applied to wide open throttle.
The Launch Control feature will initially limit engine speed as the driver rapidly applies the accelerator pedal to wide open throttle. A smooth, quick release of the clutch, while maintaining the fully pressed accelerator pedal, will manage wheel slip. Complete shifts as described in Manual Transmission Operation on page 3-31. After the vehicle is launched, the system continues in Competitive Mode (except ZR1) or Performance Traction Management (ZR1).
Competitive Driving Mode, Performance Traction Management, and Launch Control are systems designed for a closed course race track and not intended for use on public roads. The systems are not intended to compensate for lack of driver experience or familiarity with the race track.
Bill