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Old 01-04-2012, 06:29 PM
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Honestly i'm not that impressed. They didn't bring any real sports cars to the track. The GTR really isnt in the same league as the ZR1/GT2RS/GT3RS/Aventador/Gallardo Superleggara LP570,ZondaS. I'd like to see real competition.
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG
I think it's quite clear at this point that it would take the Aventador to beat the ZR1 on sport cups for less than $500k. That is pretty astounding there is NO other factory production stock car that can do it for under half a million besides the Aventador. I would think the GT2RS, GT3 4.0, 458, and the highest performing Gallardo model would be 'close', but still behind.

Amazing.
I think the ACR is the only car less than $500k to beat the ZR1 in the lightning lap, right?
Old 01-04-2012, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 05dsom
I think the ACR is the only car less than $500k to beat the ZR1 in the lightning lap, right?
Yes, the only production factory car. The ACR is the real deal, but is compromised for driving around town. Plus, they don't make it anymore. I can't wait for the next gen Viper though. It's going to be a monster.

Bwright did mention a few real contenders though under 500k i forgot about. The 458 Scud and the Mclaren MP4 would be dangerous. Not as sure about the GT2 RS and I think the 599 GTO is too heavy. They're all in the same ballpark though performance wise, so it would likely come down to driver.
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Originally Posted by 355Spider
Honestly i'm not that impressed. They didn't bring any real sports cars to the track. The GTR really isnt in the same league as the ZR1/GT2RS/GT3RS/Aventador/Gallardo Superleggara LP570,ZondaS. I'd like to see real competition.
I agree, I really wish they had some better competition. The McLaren, GT2RS, and Aventador should have definitely participated. I wonder why not? Did the manufacturers not want to participate? That would be telling. Could just be an availability issue though.
Old 01-05-2012, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG
I agree, I really wish they had some better competition. The McLaren, GT2RS, and Aventador should have definitely participated. I wonder why not? Did the manufacturers not want to participate? That would be telling. Could just be an availability issue though.
You won't see a factory sponsored Ferrari against a ZR1, or a Z06 for that matter. I guess they've chosen not to look silly performance-wise against cars that are 1/2 to 1/3 their price.
Old 01-05-2012, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Kyle Lemish
You are correct and they had 2 of 3 days of rain so not much practice in each car, 1 true day of real laps isn't much to extract the most out of a car that they in their own words were a little scared of it.
I just took a look back the results of when they previously tested the ZR1 and ran the 2:51.8 time, the peek speed was 157.4 mph. This year with the 2:50.7 time the peek speed was only 154.6 mph. Even last years test with the Z07 had a peak speed of 154.7 mph. There was definitely and issue with the conditions or driver for the peak speed to be down almost 3 mph from the previous ZR1 test and slower than the Z07 from last year. With all things being equal, the Cup tire should help increase your peak speed by allowing you to carry more speed through the corner before that long straight. I still believe GM's claim that they saw a 3 sec improvement using the cup tires at VIR.
Old 01-05-2012, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by racerns
I just took a look back the results of when they previously tested the ZR1 and ran the 2:51.8 time, the peek speed was 157.4 mph. This year with the 2:50.7 time the peek speed was only 154.6 mph. Even last years test with the Z07 had a peak speed of 154.7 mph. There was definitely and issue with the conditions or driver for the peak speed to be down almost 3 mph from the previous ZR1 test and slower than the Z07 from last year. With all things being equal, the Cup tire should help increase your peak speed by allowing you to carry more speed through the corner before that long straight. I still believe GM's claim that they saw a 3 sec improvement using the cup tires at VIR.
Having driven the PS2 and sport cups in anger on a road course, I agree that on a course as long as VIR (4.2 miles I think?), 3 seconds is absolutely doable for a time delta between the PS2 and sport cups. That means "theoretically" a 2:48 would have been possible.

I guess there is always next year.
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG
Yes, the only production factory car. The ACR is the real deal, but is compromised for driving around town. Plus, they don't make it anymore. I can't wait for the next gen Viper though. It's going to be a monster.

Bwright did mention a few real contenders though under 500k i forgot about. The 458 Scud and the Mclaren MP4 would be dangerous. Not as sure about the GT2 RS and I think the 599 GTO is too heavy. They're all in the same ballpark though performance wise, so it would likely come down to driver.
right, thats's what I have heard about the Viper...strictly track car...that's what makes the ZR1 track times (be it VIR, the ring, etc..) so impressive--that it can be both a comfortable super fast GT car and a track day killer!
Old 01-07-2012, 02:29 PM
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Looks like a good run for the ZR.

Too bad the 458 wasn't included.
Old 01-08-2012, 02:55 AM
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Always good to see the ZR-1 come out on top, but I agree with the poster that said there was no real competition there. Would have been nice to see a 458, GT2RS, Aventador and Mclaren.
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Originally Posted by 05dsom
right, thats's what I have heard about the Viper...strictly track car...that's what makes the ZR1 track times (be it VIR, the ring, etc..) so impressive--that it can be both a comfortable super fast GT car and a track day killer!
Agreed-As a Vette and Viper owner-The ZR1 truly is a nice weekend trip car and great track car- but the ACR is also quite liveable on the street.

The ACR is not as comfortable, but has a manually adjustable suspension
And along with PS2'S on a second set of wheels is fine for street duty--

The 2010 ACR is still available new ( a few left over) and remember the 2010 ran more than 10 seconds faster than a 08 at The N-ring......

As far as the GTR- hate to admit it , but it is real impressive just not my cup of tea......I think it does belong in this group.....just stuck on US cars-
Old 01-09-2012, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by K-TownMike
Always good to see the ZR-1 come out on top, but I agree with the poster that said there was no real competition there. Would have been nice to see a 458, GT2RS, Aventador and Mclaren.



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