[ZR1] VIDEO- ZR1 Standing Mile and Review
01-18-2012, 04:18 AM
#41
Comments about the weight is a cheap dig at Matt and have no real meaningful impact on a test like this. Grow up and focus on the actual content and video. He is taking out the king of Corvettes onto one of the toughest acceleration/speed challenges possible. Focusing on his weight and posting disparaging remarks are cheap shots and just plain tacky.
Matt and his team produce some of the best videos available for us to view online. Matt has some real character to him unlike the hosts of most car shows and his thought process around how he feels about cars and why are all very interesting. Instead of just saying its 'good' or 'bad', he provides very meaningful context. I appreciate what he does and the insight he provides in each of his videos. He talks to us like a true enthusiast would, he just 'gets it'.
Matt and his team produce some of the best videos available for us to view online. Matt has some real character to him unlike the hosts of most car shows and his thought process around how he feels about cars and why are all very interesting. Instead of just saying its 'good' or 'bad', he provides very meaningful context. I appreciate what he does and the insight he provides in each of his videos. He talks to us like a true enthusiast would, he just 'gets it'.
01-18-2012, 08:13 AM
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The simple fact of the matter is: Matt's mass had nothing at all to do with him missing his speed goal. Vehicular mass is important for things like off-the-line acceleration, braking, and handling. Once the speeds breech triple digits, mass doesn't matter.
Aero and horsepower do. Period. End of statement. Any argument counter to those two points shows a complete lack of understanding of top speed runs and car performance.
I appreciate what he does and the insight he provides in each of his videos. He talks to us like a true enthusiast would, he just 'gets it'.
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01-18-2012, 11:07 AM
#43
Someone should have told Matt the launch doesn't matter. Just walk it off the line and then go all out after 2cnd gear and you'll run the exact same speed. Stock GTRs do not in any reality run 179 especially 2010s. they run more like 165. My Zr1 ran 175 here in Texas as well. Seems like a standard speed for them. Takes a lot of hp to run 180+. For reference my headers, tune, filter was faster than my ZR1 by 3 mph. Kinda crazy. His runs were just fine. His shifting was sufficient as well. A little less weight on his part would have likely made no difference or very little. He did about what stock Zr1 usually runs. On a good day at sea level with good air they run 180. For reference the day I ran 175 there were two modified ZR1s at the track and both ran 182-184.
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01-20-2012, 12:42 PM
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In the video - I noted that one of the time keepers said the GTR did 180, and the zr1 driver said it was a female --
3 things to take away.
1. the zr1 driver was using launch control - it really sounded like it was bogging and stuttering with launch control on the take off.
2. The zr1 driver could not quite get the shifting down - These c6's are a little tough to get the feel of the shifter
3. he looked as though he was a larger more portley man at 235 to 250lbs or more
if the GTR driver was in fact a female - she weighed at least 100-125 lbs less.
Put a 150lb driver in the zr1 that could shift and launch WITHOUT launch control and I bet the ZR1 could have hit 180+. I really think launch control with a heavier guy that could not get the hang of the shifter was why we weren't seeing 180mph.
3 things to take away.
1. the zr1 driver was using launch control - it really sounded like it was bogging and stuttering with launch control on the take off.
2. The zr1 driver could not quite get the shifting down - These c6's are a little tough to get the feel of the shifter
3. he looked as though he was a larger more portley man at 235 to 250lbs or more
if the GTR driver was in fact a female - she weighed at least 100-125 lbs less.
Put a 150lb driver in the zr1 that could shift and launch WITHOUT launch control and I bet the ZR1 could have hit 180+. I really think launch control with a heavier guy that could not get the hang of the shifter was why we weren't seeing 180mph.
01-20-2012, 01:10 PM
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Because those "flaws" that were pointed out were incorrect. Matt only used LC a couple of times if I remember correctly. As 355 correctly pointed out: the launch doesn't really matter for a 1 mile run. Neither does Matt's weight. Folks have just got to get over that ignorance.
jas
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01-20-2012, 01:19 PM
#46
Melting Slicks
Because those "flaws" that were pointed out were incorrect. Matt only used LC a couple of times if I remember correctly. As 355 correctly pointed out: the launch doesn't really matter for a 1 mile run. Neither does Matt's weight. Folks have just got to get over that ignorance.
jas
jas
01-20-2012, 01:32 PM
#47
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Comments about the weight is a cheap dig at Matt and have no real meaningful impact on a test like this. Grow up and focus on the actual content and video. He is taking out the king of Corvettes onto one of the toughest acceleration/speed challenges possible. Focusing on his weight and posting disparaging remarks are cheap shots and just plain tacky.
Matt and his team produce some of the best videos available for us to view online. Matt has some real character to him unlike the hosts of most car shows and his thought process around how he feels about cars and why are all very interesting. Instead of just saying its 'good' or 'bad', he provides very meaningful context. I appreciate what he does and the insight he provides in each of his videos. He talks to us like a true enthusiast would, he just 'gets it'.
Matt and his team produce some of the best videos available for us to view online. Matt has some real character to him unlike the hosts of most car shows and his thought process around how he feels about cars and why are all very interesting. Instead of just saying its 'good' or 'bad', he provides very meaningful context. I appreciate what he does and the insight he provides in each of his videos. He talks to us like a true enthusiast would, he just 'gets it'.
I have always enjoyed his vids. He has way more passion for cars than many other host.
Keep making the vids and shake the haters.
Lou once said that the closer you are to the top, the more haters you have. 
Matt can swing by and drive any of our cars anytime.
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01-20-2012, 01:36 PM
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When the car can break it's rear tires free during a 3 to 4 shift, there's no amount of weight loss you can do to make the car faster.
jas
01-20-2012, 04:31 PM
#49
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Read my post from a couple of days ago. Mass matters for handling. Mass matters for accelerating out of a corner. Mass matters for braking. When you're talking about speeds in the triple digits, mass DOESN'T MATTER! Aero and HP do.
When the car can break it's rear tires free during a 3 to 4 shift, there's no amount of weight loss you can do to make the car faster.
jas
When the car can break it's rear tires free during a 3 to 4 shift, there's no amount of weight loss you can do to make the car faster.
jas
I tried to research this online but most references are for terminal velocity/top speed not the acceleration to a given distance or speed.
http://www.physforum.com/index.php?showtopic=14909
01-20-2012, 05:00 PM
#50
Melting Slicks
Matt's daily driver is a Ford Raptor and a C5 Corvette, with lightweight Sparco seats which hold him just fine.
I (Zack) am 5'11", 175 lbs, about 11% body fat, and also found the ZR1 seats to be lacking lateral support. So does pretty much every journalist ever, for the last 15 years. Corvette seats are notoriously bad, soft and flat. When I drove the ZR1 I never felt as locked in as I did in a BMW M3, Mercedes C63, or even the more pedestrian E350 diesel.
Matt addressed the speed here. http://www.thesmokingtire.com/2011/l...say-this-once/
I (Zack) am 5'11", 175 lbs, about 11% body fat, and also found the ZR1 seats to be lacking lateral support. So does pretty much every journalist ever, for the last 15 years. Corvette seats are notoriously bad, soft and flat. When I drove the ZR1 I never felt as locked in as I did in a BMW M3, Mercedes C63, or even the more pedestrian E350 diesel.
Matt addressed the speed here. http://www.thesmokingtire.com/2011/l...say-this-once/
01-20-2012, 08:37 PM
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Comments about the weight is a cheap dig at Matt and have no real meaningful impact on a test like this. Grow up and focus on the actual content and video. He is taking out the king of Corvettes onto one of the toughest acceleration/speed challenges possible. Focusing on his weight and posting disparaging remarks are cheap shots and just plain tacky.
Matt and his team produce some of the best videos available for us to view online. Matt has some real character to him unlike the hosts of most car shows and his thought process around how he feels about cars and why are all very interesting. Instead of just saying its 'good' or 'bad', he provides very meaningful context. I appreciate what he does and the insight he provides in each of his videos. He talks to us like a true enthusiast would, he just 'gets it'.
Matt and his team produce some of the best videos available for us to view online. Matt has some real character to him unlike the hosts of most car shows and his thought process around how he feels about cars and why are all very interesting. Instead of just saying its 'good' or 'bad', he provides very meaningful context. I appreciate what he does and the insight he provides in each of his videos. He talks to us like a true enthusiast would, he just 'gets it'.
