Ok , i see these threads about which one is faster(gt, viper ect ect). Id like to know which one is faster to 60 100 150 and 200. The Enzo or the ZR1. also just to stir the pot , which one would be better on a road track?
Ok , i see these threads about which one is faster(gt, viper ect ect). Id like to know which one is faster to 60 100 150 and 200. The Enzo or the ZR1. also just to stir the pot , which one would be better on a road track?
I'm not sure about which is fastest to the speeds you mentioned, the the fastest 1/4 mile time I've seen for the Enzo is 10.8 and the fastest time for the ZR1 (bone stock) is 10.79. Because of that I would suspect the ZR1 is at least faster to 60 and 100.
More like 3-4 mph faster. Best I have seen for the Enzo is 136mph and the ZR1 just shy of 133 mph (132.9mph). Also that 136 mph came from C&D which they admit was a calculated time since they were doing the test on Ferrari's test track (Fiorano)and did not have enough space to do the run and was slightly down hill. So I would question that 136 mph trap.
Has anyone ever seen a timeslip from an Enzo at a true drag strip?
Has anyone ever seen a timeslip from an Enzo at a true drag strip?
I had to smile when I read this. Maybe more to the point: "Has anyone ever seen an Enzo at a drag strip?" I tend to think their owners don't spend much time at rented strip days or grudge night.
As a Mopar owner ('70 Hemi Challenger), I can't remember seeing too many Enzo owners hanging out at Mopar shows yelling out "Hey, that thang got a Hemi?" either.
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More like 3-4 mph faster. Best I have seen for the Enzo is 136mph and the ZR1 just shy of 133 mph (132.9mph). Also that 136 mph came from C&D which they admit was a calculated time since they were doing the test on Ferrari's test track (Fiorano)and did not have enough space to do the run and was slightly down hill. So I would question that 136 mph trap.
Has anyone ever seen a timeslip from an Enzo at a true drag strip?
This is why I already said in my original post "up to 6 mph higher ..."
The Enzo is 133-136.
Test data for the ZR-1 has been 128-133; bit of a variance there.
There are videos on YouTube of an Enzo doing multiple drag strip runs.
The owner is in the middle east if memory serves and he was racing it against his Novitec Ferrari (430 or 360 .... Can't remember which model).
The Enzo was beat by the boosted F car
Fair enough. Still makes me wonder if it isn't some 5 star hotel valet on a break from work with one of his customer's cars. On the other hand, I guess in the UAE, anything's possible with that kind of money available.
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I'm not sure about which is fastest to the speeds you mentioned, the the fastest 1/4 mile time I've seen for the Enzo is 10.8 and the fastest time for the ZR1 (bone stock) is 10.79. Because of that I would suspect the ZR1 is at least faster to 60 and 100.
I would imagine that a good driver given a bunch of runs in the Enzo would get better then what the magazine's publish. Just like most ZR1's will not see the 10's, except for a few drivers that practice and get it down pat. Same as 95% of all Z06 owners might not ever see 11's stock.
there were only 399 enzo's ever made. kind of a worthless debate since they are over 1 million when you can even buy one. of course it's a faster car than the zr1, even on the half ass tires they left the factory on. why they didn't sell the enzo with at least a pilot sport cup tire i'll never understand. it's a small run street legal race car just like the F40 before it.
more hp + less weight + downforce is going to equal a faster lap almost anywhere.
if you guys ever see one of these in person you'll go wide eyed. they don't even look like street cars. they seriously remind me much more of a purpose built track ride.
Fair enough. Still makes me wonder if it isn't some 5 star hotel valet on a break from work with one of his customer's cars. On the other hand, I guess in the UAE, anything's possible with that kind of money available.
Actually, sir, there is a rumor or story around that Ferrari made another one...number 400...gave it to the Pope...who sold/auctioned(?) it off and it's here in Tampa Bay in a great man's collection...It goes to various shows with the poster identifying it as The Pope's ferrari...or something close to that...
A neat story...and I assume it's true...as the owner is a First Class Citizen...or rumored to be...I know who he is though I do not know him...
As an aside...he was featured one time on the show Dream Car Garage...and as I recall, the Enzo was in that feature...
So...I believe the true count is 400...but your 399 statement was in fact true until the Pope's car was produced...
I had to smile when I read this. Maybe more to the point: "Has anyone ever seen an Enzo at a drag strip?" I tend to think their owners don't spend much time at rented strip days or grudge night.
As a Mopar owner ('70 Hemi Challenger), I can't remember seeing too many Enzo owners hanging out at Mopar shows yelling out "Hey, that thang got a Hemi?" either.
Agreed, but I would have never imagined I'd see an f430 scuderia at the 1/8 mile track run a 7.5@98mph using launch control!
Actually, sir, there is a rumor or story around that Ferrari made another one...number 400...gave it to the Pope...who sold/auctioned(?) it off and it's here in Tampa Bay in a great man's collection...It goes to various shows with the poster identifying it as The Pope's ferrari...or something close to that...
A neat story...and I assume it's true...as the owner is a First Class Citizen...or rumored to be...I know who he is though I do not know him...
As an aside...he was featured one time on the show Dream Car Garage...and as I recall, the Enzo was in that feature...
So...I believe the true count is 400...but your 399 statement was in fact true until the Pope's car was produced...
there were only 399 enzo's ever made. kind of a worthless debate since they are over 1 million when you can even buy one. of course it's a faster car than the zr1, even on the half ass tires they left the factory on. why they didn't sell the enzo with at least a pilot sport cup tire i'll never understand. it's a small run street legal race car just like the F40 before it.
more hp + less weight + downforce is going to equal a faster lap almost anywhere.
if you guys ever see one of these in person you'll go wide eyed. they don't even look like street cars. they seriously remind me much more of a purpose built track ride.
You are correct. I saw one at the Ferrai dealer in Hinsdale, IL. F---- the ZR-1. This car was bad ass and I am a Vette fan having 5 of them. If I had the choice it would be the Enzo all day long.
If I had the choice it would be the Enzo all day long.
It amazes me how often we compare cars that are clearly not in the same realm of reality. Who wouldn't choose a $1,000,000 Enzo over a $125,000 Vet...I'd sell the Enzo, buy 2 ZR-1s, and bank the difference if I ever won the Ferrari lottery.
The Enzo was an absolute state of the art, no expense spared, uber-rich guy trophy. It is a beautiful work of Italian art, but few are ever driven to thier limits if hardly driven at all. I'd be pissed if my Enzo got spanked by this "cheap" supercar called the ZR-1. But lets face it, the Corvette nearly does it in stock trim from a performance standpoint.
The ZR-1 is a fantastic car, yet still has many compromises to keep the cost in check as it still is a mass produced contender to be had by us more "average" folks.
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It amazes me how often we compare cars that are clearly not in the same realm of reality. Who wouldn't choose a $1,000,000 Enzo over a $125,000 Vet...I'd sell the Enzo, buy 2 ZR-1s, and bank the difference if I ever won the Ferrari lottery.
The Enzo was an absolute state of the art, no expense spared, uber-rich guy trophy. It is a beautiful work of Italian art, but few are ever driven to thier limits if hardly driven at all. I'd be pissed if my Enzo got spanked by this "cheap" supercar called the ZR-1. But lets face it, the Corvette nearly does it in stock trim from a performance standpoint.
The ZR-1 is a fantastic car, yet still has many compromises to keep the cost in check as it still is a mass produced contender to be had by us more "average" folks.
Guy in ZR1 pulls up beside guy in Enzo and wants to race him, guy in Enzo laughs and keeps on driving, winner by landslide..ENZO.
To the guy who would sell the Enzo and buy 2 ZR1's and pocket the rest....yea whatever, you just don't get it.
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zr1 or enzo
Maybe more to the point: "Has anyone ever seen an Enzo at a drag strip?" I tend to think their owners don't spend much time at rented strip days or grudge night. 
