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Old 03-06-2009, 01:32 AM   #1
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Per the knowledgeable and reputable folks at the NCM, the line is currently pumping out 8-ZR1's/day, which is primarily production limited by parts availability, such as brakes, and not limited by production machinery. ZR1 production is also being schedule limited at 8-ZR1's/day as a result of the additional line assembly time which the ZR1 requires.

Doing the math... as of the re-start of production on Monday February 23rd, VIN #622 was the last ZR1 produced prior to shutdown.

Working backwards from the last scheduled production date for the 2009 model of June 19th, back to the first production day back of Monday February 23rd, results in a total of 90-production days.

At 8-ZR1's produced per day over 90 production dates translates to roughly 720 ZR1's will be produced during this time frame. Now add 622 units produced prior to shut down, results in roughly 1,342 total ZR1's produced for 2009.

Being that production did not ramp up immediately the first week back on February 23rd, one would argue a few less ZR1's were produced that week, thus say 1,335-ish Z's will be produced for 2009, of course give or take.

An interesting brain teaser... as posted earlier, GM may be ultimately headed for bankruptcy. At the time of bail out money allocation, either our friendly government or the brain trust at GM knew how deep of an impact the slow down in auto sales would have on the months to follow, not to mention the months to come do not look promising. Add the attempt to restructure salaries, health care, pensions, etc may only leave one solution....bankruptcy!

Prior to or during bankruptcy, GM may elect to indefinitely suspend the Corvette line, which if they don't, most likely the ZR1 will experience a fast death.

If you really want to a ZR1, you may want to consider buying one soon as the ZR1 may be no longer in the not too distant future.

Of course what the hell do I know, I am just a pasionate Corvette enthuhsiast whom hopes this is all a bad dream and the Corvette will survive for generations to come!
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I am just hoping in a short few years that I will wake up and realize that the stock market crash was just a bad dream. I find it difficult to get worked up over whether or not I will be able to buy a ZR1 in the future when I find half & more of my retirement savings gone in less than 18 months time. And Obama and his merry band of Dems will likely wreck the US capitalistic economy in the process meaning the market isn't coming back if ever until they are thrown out of office as failures.
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I am just hoping in a short few years that I will wake up and realize that the stock market crash was just a bad dream. I find it difficult to get worked up over whether or not I will be able to buy a ZR1 in the future when I find half & more of my retirement savings gone in less than 18 months time. And Obama and his merry band of Dems will likely wreck the US capitalistic economy in the process meaning the market isn't coming back if ever until they are thrown out of office as failures.
Excuse me but haven't the last 8 years been Republican managed? Didn't Obama inherit, not cause, this mess? Do you really think it all started on 1/20/09 and the Democrats focus is to fail and "wreck the US capitalistic economy"? You need to take a deep breath and focus on helping your situation not pointing fingers to blame anymore. It's too late for blaming.
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Excuse me but haven't the last 8 years been Republican managed? Didn't Obama inherit, not cause, this mess? Do you really think it all started on 1/20/09 and the Democrats focus is to fail and "wreck the US capitalistic economy"? You need to take a deep breath and focus on helping your situation not pointing fingers to blame anymore. It's too late for blaming.
Actually, the last two years of Bush's term was spent with a democratic majority in the house and senate. I have no love for either party, but the issues which formed the basis for the housing crisis started during Clinton's tenure and were largely embraced by both parties. An attempt to put the reigns on mortgage issues during Bush's second term was nixed by the dems.

I hate both parties who don't get it, haven't gotten it in a while and, based on what the financial markets are saying, sure as hell really don't get it now.

I had a lot of interest in buying a ZR1, but won't do so until this mess works itself out. I want to ensure there is a dealer network around who can service the beast down the road.
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Actually, the last two years of Bush's term was spent with a democratic majority in the house and senate. I have no love for either party, but the issues which formed the basis for the housing crisis started during Clinton's tenure and were largely embraced by both parties. An attempt to put the reigns on mortgage issues during Bush's second term was nixed by the dems.

I hate both parties who don't get it, haven't gotten it in a while and, based on what the financial markets are saying, sure as hell really don't get it now.
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Excuse me but haven't the last 8 years been Republican managed? Didn't Obama inherit, not cause, this mess? Do you really think it all started on 1/20/09 and the Democrats focus is to fail and "wreck the US capitalistic economy"? You need to take a deep breath and focus on helping your situation not pointing fingers to blame anymore. It's too late for blaming.
Well, the stock market is a bet on the future not the past. Like most people I don't like what I hear. First the problem was jobs so there was a trillion dollar "stimulus", next the problem was bad mortgages so there was $275B to fix that, now the real problem is health care so we need $600B as a down payment, beyond that the problem is carbon emissions so we need...... well, you get the point. The market is showing it's confidence in how the new administration is going to handle the next 4 years.

I have set the ZR1 as a dream machine and hope that it doesn't wind up being canceled by political considerations.
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There is at least one more shutdown being considered before the end of the model year. We have been told it will be a one week shutdown. GM needs to get these cars on the road. Without people buying coupes, convertibles and Z06 though they can't build the ZR1.

I'm not gonna get in a political debate here, I have my opinions. Let's just keep the plant up and running by ordering new cars and keeping the Corvette dream alive.

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Excuse me but haven't the last 8 years been Republican managed? Didn't Obama inherit, not cause, this mess? Do you really think it all started on 1/20/09 and the Democrats focus is to fail and "wreck the US capitalistic economy"? You need to take a deep breath and focus on helping your situation not pointing fingers to blame anymore. It's too late for blaming.
Excuse me but the DEMS had plenty to do with the sorry mess for the past decade and longer regardless of whom was in the White House. The Dems had a large enough minority in Congress to block a lot of financial regulation and oversight that was sorely needed. Obama wants the public to think he is wearing the white hat while letting Pelosi and Reid with the black hats do whatever the Left really wants. The DEMS have more control now than the Republicans ever thought about having over the past nearly 30 years. As the others have pointed out, the Stock Market is clearly showing no confidence in Obama's plan and the Stock Market is definitely a leading economic indicator.
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Excuse me but haven't the last 8 years been Republican managed? Didn't Obama inherit, not cause, this mess? Do you really think it all started on 1/20/09 and the Democrats focus is to fail and "wreck the US capitalistic economy"? You need to take a deep breath and focus on helping your situation not pointing fingers to blame anymore. It's too late for blaming.
Not to split hairs, but, the deregulation of the banking industry actually occurred in the late 90's during Clinton's administration. Bush only added more fuel to the fire.
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Actually, the last two years of Bush's term was spent with a democratic majority in the house and senate. I have no love for either party, but the issues which formed the basis for the housing crisis started during Clinton's tenure and were largely embraced by both parties. An attempt to put the reigns on mortgage issues during Bush's second term was nixed by the dems.

I hate both parties who don't get it, haven't gotten it in a while and, based on what the financial markets are saying, sure as hell really don't get it now.

I had a lot of interest in buying a ZR1, but won't do so until this mess works itself out. I want to ensure there is a dealer network around who can service the beast down the road.
I dislike both parties as well because both of them have failed the average family by bad policies and poor oversight/regulation of financial institutions. I don't think the Obama/Pelosi/Reid agenda is going to allow the American capitalistic system to restore itself anytime soon. Looking more and more like the events leading up to and including the Great Depression repeated. Yes history does repeat itself.
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The market traditionally looks out about 6 months and reflects what they think will be happening then in the price of stocks today. So what they are telling us today is that they think things will be worse 6 months from now, not better. I think what is scaring the market, and most people, is that Obama seems to be far more interested in re-shaping government and the country than trying to deal with the current crisis. Traditionally a President with this type of crisis will devote 100% of his time and policies to dealing with it. Obama seems only to want to deal with the current crisis with about 20% of his effort and would rather spend 80% of his effort on re-shaping America.

The questions you have to ask is why he does not want to work solely on stopping the current crisis?

I can only speculate at this time but one thing does come to mind is the quote from Rahm Emanuel, Obama's chief of staff, a few months back.

"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste," said Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.”This crisis provides the opportunity for us to do things that you could not do before."
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The market traditionally looks out about 6 months and reflects what they think will be happening then in the price of stocks today. So what they are telling us today is that they think things will be worse 6 months from now, not better. I think what is scaring the market, and most people, is that Obama seems to be far more interested in re-shaping government and the country than trying to deal with the current crisis. Traditionally a President with this type of crisis will devote 100% of his time and policies to dealing with it. Obama seems only to want to deal with the current crisis with about 20% of his effort and would rather spend 80% of his effort on re-shaping America.

The questions you have to ask is why he does not want to work solely on stopping the current crisis?

I can only speculate at this time but one thing does come to mind is the quote from Rahm Emanuel, Obama's chief of staff, a few months back.

"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste," said Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.”This crisis provides the opportunity for us to do things that you could not do before."
All this stuff belongs in OT, but Obama would surely love to stop the current crisis and ensure his messianic place in history. The problem, though, is that he doesn't know how; neither did Bush. It is a worldwide issue with major problems in Europe and elsewhere. 40 percent of our GDP comes from overseas trading partners.

We haven't even seen the collapse in commercial property which is sure to occur with businesses closing left and right and the second wave of foreclosures from adjustable non-sub-prime mortgages.

Hate to say it but I went to a meeting in 2003 where one of the speakers predicted this mess. Even he had no idea as to the depth of the problem.

When I hear people whining about not getting their ZR1 if Corvette goes bust, or its over MSRP, it makes me sick. Lots of folks out there would be happen to simply have a job or a house over their heads for their kids. Get some perspective folks, its a frigging car.
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When I hear people whining about not getting their ZR1 if Corvette goes bust, or its over MSRP, it makes me sick. Lots of folks out there would be happen to simply have a job or a house over their heads for their kids. Get some perspective folks, its a frigging car.
Exactly why I have stopped worrying about whether or not I will ever buy a ZR1. Regaining my retirement money and keeping my current job are now at the top of my concerns list. If I don't buy a ZR1 for whatever the reason, I will settle for a 2011 Z06 hopefully with the mag ride suspension option if available. Frankly it will be nearly as much fun as a ZR1 for a whole lot less money like the current DD.
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Amen. You are exactly right as to where this mess started. To say it is a Bush or Republican mess shows exteme bias. It started with the housing meltdown which can be directly traced back to the Clinton era.
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Per the knowledgeable and reputable folks at the NCM, the line is currently pumping out 8-ZR1's/day, which is primarily production limited by parts availability, such as brakes, and not limited by production machinery. ZR1 production is also being schedule limited at 8-ZR1's/day as a result of the additional line assembly time which the ZR1 requires.

Doing the math... as of the re-start of production on Monday February 23rd, VIN #622 was the last ZR1 produced prior to shutdown.

Working backwards from the last scheduled production date for the 2009 model of June 19th, back to the first production day back of Monday February 23rd, results in a total of 90-production days.

At 8-ZR1's produced per day over 90 production dates translates to roughly 720 ZR1's will be produced during this time frame. Now add 622 units produced prior to shut down, results in roughly 1,342 total ZR1's produced for 2009.

Being that production did not ramp up immediately the first week back on February 23rd, one would argue a few less ZR1's were produced that week, thus say 1,335-ish Z's will be produced for 2009, of course give or take.

An interesting brain teaser... as posted earlier, GM may be ultimately headed for bankruptcy. At the time of bail out money allocation, either our friendly government or the brain trust at GM knew how deep of an impact the slow down in auto sales would have on the months to follow, not to mention the months to come do not look promising. Add the attempt to restructure salaries, health care, pensions, etc may only leave one solution....bankruptcy!

Prior to or during bankruptcy, GM may elect to indefinitely suspend the Corvette line, which if they don't, most likely the ZR1 will experience a fast death.

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Minor point but my car is vin # 622 and it came off the line on 3-2-09. There was at least one black ZR1 ahead of mine.
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If there was one thing more nitpicky, confusing and a producer of endless arguments besides "Ring Times", it's definitely politics.
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Why does it seem that recently, every other thread digresses into politics?
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Why does it seem that recently, every other thread digresses into politics?
Because at heart we are all full of BS and are a bunch of lying thieves. What other topic would you have us discuss?
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Minor point but my car is vin # 622 and it came off the line on 3-2-09. There was at least one black ZR1 ahead of mine.
You are correct. From what I was able to uncover, VIN's 615 - 622 were actually on the line in an uncompleted state when the line shut down and were finished when production started back up.
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