The ZR-1 has 638 HP and is rougly 3300 pounds. The GT-R has 480 HP and weighs 3800 pounds. I know the GT-R is AWD but how can anybody claim that the GT-R is only 1/10th slower at 0-60? I also read on this forum no less that the ZR-1 loses 133 HP by the time it hits the rear wheels. This is impossible. So tell me I am stupid, heck PM and e-mail me with "stupid" in the subject box. I just can't believe this at all.
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Not sure why it would be so hard to understand. The GTR can plant all the power to all 4 tires taking off with barely any wheel spin. It's an amazing car.
No. For the GTR. To many owners want to abuse launch control and still have Nissan cover warranty repairs.
I think you misspelled a word in your post. You mean "Too many owners want to USE launch control and still have Nissan cove the warranty repairs".
If their POS transmission cannot take launch control use, they should not offer it; rather than stick the customer with the $20K repair bill because Nissan can't design transmissions worth sh!t.
Not sure why it would be so hard to understand. The GTR can plant all the power to all 4 tires taking off with barely any wheel spin. It's an amazing car.
yes, its amazing, but I honestly find the looks not very appealing.
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Originally Posted by gonzalezfj
I think you misspelled a word in your post. You mean "Too many owners want to USE launch control and still have Nissan cove the warranty repairs".
If their POS transmission cannot take launch control use, they should not offer it; rather than stick the customer with the $20K repair bill because Nissan can't design transmissions worth sh!t.
Respectfully,
Frank Gonzalez
Really? USE? POS Transmission?.....
I can't say I totally agree with you. I got 6k miles on mine and I can't complain.
I can't say I totally agree with you. I got 6k miles on mine and I can't complain.
Best of luck to you!!! And I mean that sincerely.
I suggest you refrain from using the Launch Control feature, because if your transmission goes (like a number of others) Nissan won't stand behind their product (as reported by other owners).
The ZR-1 has 638 HP and is rougly 3300 pounds. The GT-R has 480 HP and weighs 3800 pounds. I know the GT-R is AWD but how can anybody claim that the GT-R is only 1/10th slower at 0-60? I also read on this forum no less that the ZR-1 loses 133 HP by the time it hits the rear wheels. This is impossible. So tell me I am stupid, heck PM and e-mail me with "stupid" in the subject box. I just can't believe this at all.
0-60mph is much more about traction than it is about horsepower, at least at the levels these cars play at.
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Originally Posted by gonzalezfj
Best of luck to you!!! And I mean that sincerely.
I suggest you refrain from using the Launch Control feature, because if your transmission goes (like a number of others) Nissan won't stand behind their product (as reported by other owners).
Frank Gonzalez
Thank you. I actually don't use LC at all due. It doesn't disappoint me at all, the car is a lot of fun to drive and there is so much controllable power through the corners and quick sprits.
Even in my modified Z06 I don't do hard launches from a dead stop. It's not worth wearing out the drivetrain parts. I know that GM won't be backing me up if something goes wrong. I have already fixed lots of parts out of my wallet. My fun is at the road course or highway style runs.
The GTR is for the streets. For me it's the perfect car. For the track it's the Z06. Throttle control on the Z is a blast and takes a lot of skill (still learn every day) to tame and the best part is I love the challenges that the Z brings to driver when pushing the limits.
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Originally Posted by gonzalezfj
I think you misspelled a word in your post. You mean "Too many owners want to USE launch control and still have Nissan cove the warranty repairs".
If their POS transmission cannot take launch control use, they should not offer it; rather than stick the customer with the $20K repair bill because Nissan can't design transmissions worth sh!t.
Respectfully,
Frank Gonzalez
Absolutely correct. GTR owners, even if they also own a Corvette too will be blatantly bias.
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Originally Posted by Dyver
The ZR-1 has 638 HP and is rougly 3300 pounds. The GT-R has 480 HP and weighs 3800 pounds. I know the GT-R is AWD but how can anybody claim that the GT-R is only 1/10th slower at 0-60? I also read on this forum no less that the ZR-1 loses 133 HP by the time it hits the rear wheels. This is impossible. So tell me I am stupid, heck PM and e-mail me with "stupid" in the subject box. I just can't believe this at all.
Keep going past that 0-60 and you will see where the extra hp makes the important diffferences, can you say GOODBYE GTR???
I think you misspelled a word in your post. You mean "Too many owners want to USE launch control and still have Nissan cove the warranty repairs".
If their POS transmission cannot take launch control use, they should not offer it; rather than stick the customer with the $20K repair bill because Nissan can't design transmissions worth sh!t.
The losses reported in dyno testing report a loss range of 14 to 16%. That equates to around 90 -100 hp in losses.
The GTR has great launch control coupled w/ 4WD enable it to more efficiently use all the power/torque of the engine and get it to the ground, thus improved acceleration. In addition the dual clutch trans looses no time where the vette has time loss where it is not transmitting power to the tires. This gains the GTR a few tenths in Accel.
go ahead and rev your vette to the rev limiter and dump the clutch from a dead stop. do it 5 times. 10, 20, 30, whatever amount of times you wish. eventually, you are going to break parts in the drivetrain. GM WILL WARRANTY THIS because, Hey, it's possible to do it right from the factory, right? Give me a break.
The ZR-1 has 638 HP and is rougly 3300 pounds. The GT-R has 480 HP and weighs 3800 pounds. I know the GT-R is AWD but how can anybody claim that the GT-R is only 1/10th slower at 0-60? I also read on this forum no less that the ZR-1 loses 133 HP by the time it hits the rear wheels. This is impossible. So tell me I am stupid, heck PM and e-mail me with "stupid" in the subject box. I just can't believe this at all.
Your not stupid, it really is understandable and frustrating. I see you own a 99 coupe. I don't know if you have driven a 600 hp vette but I own one. Once you drive one you realize the answer is no longer hp, but how the hell am I gonna keep the wheels from spinning . I imagine that's what makes a lamborghini so much fun to drive. That thing just looks like it eats pavement for lunch. I cannot wait till they invent some super tire in the future that can put my 600 hp to the ground right after I pull out of the garage
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. I imagine that's what makes a lamborghini so much fun to drive. That thing just looks like it eats pavement for lunch. I cannot wait till they invent some super tire in the future that can put my 600 hp to the ground right after I pull out of the garage 
