The people that would what the 505 hp with a clutch could have it and the people who what 505 hp with a automatic could also have it. GM needs to get off their butts and give the people what they want. Right now I have a 05 Z51 6 speed. I have been thinking about a ZO6 and for me it would be a 6 speed with a clutch. But right now with the uncertainty of the job situation I have to wait until things improve.
Does GM have a tranny that will hold 500hp that can last 5yr 100k mi? The 4l80E? I dont think it will fit in a vette
I recall that there was a thread posted about a trans shop that put together a automatic for C6 ZO6 that was turbo charged and posted a video of the car running a 9.21 in the 1/4 mile. The automatic held up to the power. I think if GM wanted to they could develop a automatic for a ZO6.
The reason the full power seats aren't in the Z06 is mass, plain and simple. If you've ever man-handled the power seats from the Corvette and compared them to the seats in the Z06, you know there is a significant difference in mass. The power seats are heavy.
That's why they're not in the Z06. The Z06 is marketed as the track star. Whether it actually IS or not is another story. But that's the market GM's gunning for with it.
You can already see them slipping with the addition of the 3LZ interior, the added noise abatement material, the extra "luxury" items like the Nav system, etc. All these add mass. Adding heavier seats will make a difference (perhaps potentially) to the car's performance and mileage.
I agree the seats should be part of the Z06. But they're not going to be.
You hit it on the head. Lots of Corvettes see a good deal of touring time. Just because it is a performance car doesn't mean that you need the convenience options deleted.
Give people what they want. If people want to buy a 3LZ model with all the toys, give them to the people. For those who need every ounce of weight cut for track use, give them a 1LZ model that's stripped.
A lot of GM "marketing" seems to be merely greedy corporate accountants deleting parts and trying to pass it off as necessary for performance.
It seems like they are at least trying with the new Competition Sport version of the 1LT base model. It's not my particular interest, but it seems like a sincere effort to give people who want the performance options in the least complicated car the opportunity to put a nice package together without taking on the convenience and luxury items.
The reason the full power seats aren't in the Z06 is mass, plain and simple. If you've ever man-handled the power seats from the Corvette and compared them to the seats in the Z06, you know there is a significant difference in mass. The power seats are heavy.
That's why they're not in the Z06. The Z06 is marketed as the track star. Whether it actually IS or not is another story. But that's the market GM's gunning for with it.
You can already see them slipping with the addition of the 3LZ interior, the added noise abatement material, the extra "luxury" items like the Nav system, etc. All these add mass. Adding heavier seats will make a difference (perhaps potentially) to the car's performance and mileage.
I agree the seats should be part of the Z06. But they're not going to be.
jas
agreed....I know they are heavy, but exactly my point..because MOST, not all are not using the car the way it was intended, why not loosen up a bit and provide more luxury items is what I meant in regards to the Z06 part....of course they said they would NEVER paint a Z06 in Crystal Red and they did..they would never have a 6 speed auto in the other Corvettes and they do....
Certainly an interesting conversation and free marketing for the boys at GM - thanks!
agreed....I know they are heavy, but exactly my point..because MOST, not all are not using the car the way it was intended, why not loosen up a bit and provide more luxury items
Because those heavier items may take that 505HP car that doesn't suffer from gas guzzler tax, and push it over the edge.
Because those heavier items will in a small way hurt the 0-60/quarter mile times with which GM uses as advertising fodder for the car.
Because those heavier items will cause the car's handling characteristics to change, perhaps for the worse.
The Z06 is advertised as a track car. Whether it actually is or not is another thing entirely. But in the magic bullsh1t world of advertising, GM's idea is to keep the Z06 as track-ready as they can while allowing for some GT goodies in it.
In their mind: if you want a boulevard cruiser, get an F55-equipped coupe or convertible. The Z06 is more than just a kick-ass LS7 engine. It's a whole package (supposedly) designed for track duty. This is an idea that most Corvette owners who don't have a Z06 just don't want to accept. They see a big-cube, big HP engine and decide that's all the Z06 is. It happened during the C5, and it's still happening with the C6.
I recall that there was a thread posted about a trans shop that put together a automatic for C6 ZO6 that was turbo charged and posted a video of the car running a 9.21 in the 1/4 mile. The automatic held up to the power. I think if GM wanted to they could develop a automatic for a ZO6.
Correct! I have one of these auto converted C6 ZO6's
RPM Transmission builds the transmission and beefed up differential and IPS Motorsports did the conversion for me.
Because those heavier items may take that 505HP car that doesn't suffer from gas guzzler tax, and push it over the edge.
Because those heavier items will in a small way hurt the 0-60/quarter mile times with which GM uses as advertising fodder for the car.
Because those heavier items will cause the car's handling characteristics to change, perhaps for the worse.
The Z06 is advertised as a track car. Whether it actually is or not is another thing entirely. But in the magic bullsh1t world of advertising, GM's idea is to keep the Z06 as track-ready as they can while allowing for some GT goodies in it.
In their mind: if you want a boulevard cruiser, get an F55-equipped coupe or convertible. The Z06 is more than just a kick-ass LS7 engine. It's a whole package (supposedly) designed for track duty. This is an idea that most Corvette owners who don't have a Z06 just don't want to accept. They see a big-cube, big HP engine and decide that's all the Z06 is. It happened during the C5, and it's still happening with the C6.
jas
Actually, if you want a "cruiser" just get base suspension. F55 is NOT a "Comfort" suspension.
Sorry for the highjack.
Back to the Z06 thought, certainly enough has been written about about the Z06's track prowess (or lack of). I would love to see GM get the car (Z06) truly right for it's intended purpose.
Look guys, I'm not a big fan of some of GM' bone head decisions, but I think they got the Vette line up just right.
You want to track and stop at the grocery store on the way home:ZO6
You want a Daily driver that eases you in So. Cal commute freeway traffic: C6-Auto
You want to cruise down the coast?: C6 Vert
Of course you can also do all three of the above in any of the above cars
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The people that would what the 505 hp with a clutch could have it and the people who what 505 hp with a automatic could also have it. GM needs to get off their butts and give the people what they want. Right now I have a 05 Z51 6 speed. I have been thinking about a ZO6 and for me it would be a 6 speed with a clutch. But right now with the uncertainty of the job situation I have to wait until things improve.
I'ld be dead in the water without the adjustable lumbar support on my ZR1
