I can seem to find the specific differences between these features?
Does the 1ZR include telescoping wheel/HUD? If so, I don't see paying the extra $$ for the extra weight.
Corvette hasn't exactly went out of it's way to explain the differences either. I know I've tried to determine the extras you get with the 3zr and I think they have made it very difficult on purpose due to the 10K price tag. On the Chevy sight, they just list the extras together with all the other standard and optional equipment which makes it tedious at best to pick them out.
I like the look of the leather wrapped interior but could care less if I had heated seats, a navigation system and other things bundled with the 3zr. If they are not building the 1zr why even offer it as an option package? For me it's not the weight, it's spending 3K or 4K for a bunch of stuff I'll never use. Maybe Corvette will hear us and offer option packages for the ZR1 that are similar to those offered for the other Corvette models in 2010. Yeah right.
Download the 2009 Corvette Ordering Guide. It is in .pdf format and it clearly shows what is and what is not available in each package. It is available on the internet from other corvette enthusiast sites.
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Member: Tampa Bay Vettes, C6Registry, NCM, Bowling Green Assembly Corvette Club
Past:
1985 Black Coupe
1988 Black Convertible
1998 Black Coupe
1999 Black Coupe
2007 Black Z06
2008 Black Convertible - Given to my Father
2009 Black ZR1
Now:
2009 Z06 Atomic Orange/Ebony, 2LZ, Navigation, Spider Design Chrome Wheels.
2010 ZR1 Black/ Ebony, 3ZR, VIN 800098, Competition Grey Wheels, Museum Delivery, Build Date 9/03, Delivered on 9/27.
Features shown below are in addition to, or in place of 1ZR features:
Audio system: AM/FM stereo with CD/MP3 playback, DVD based touch screen navigation with voice recognition, auto tone control, Radio Data System, TheftLock and 6.5" LCD color display. Includes Bose premium 7 speaker system
Bluetooth for Phone: Personal cell phone connectivity to vehicle audio system and HMI (Human Machine Interface), with specific steering wheel controls
Cargo Net: In rear compartment area
Custom Leather Wrapped Interior Package: Includes leather wrapped intstrument panel, upper door trim panels, console storage cover with 2 tone leather design, seat head restraint ZR1 embroidery and Special Bias patter console trim plate
Luggage Shade
Memory Package: Recalls 2 driver 'presets' for 6-way power seat, outside mirrors and telescoping steering column
Seat Adjuster: Front passenger, six-way power
Seats: Heated driver and front passenger
Seats: Sport front bucket with perforated leather seating surfaces, includes back angle adjustment, adjustable lumbar and side bolsters and includes embroidery and contrasting stitching
Steering Column: Power telescoping with manual tilt
Universal Home Remote: Includes garage door opener, 3-channel programmable, located on driver visor
Features shown below are in addition to, or in place of 1ZR features:
Audio system: AM/FM stereo with CD/MP3 playback, DVD based touch screen navigation with voice recognition, auto tone control, Radio Data System, TheftLock and 6.5" LCD color display. Includes Bose premium 7 speaker system
Bluetooth for Phone: Personal cell phone connectivity to vehicle audio system and HMI (Human Machine Interface), with specific steering wheel controls
Cargo Net: In rear compartment area
Custom Leather Wrapped Interior Package: Includes leather wrapped intstrument panel, upper door trim panels, console storage cover with 2 tone leather design, seat head restraint ZR1 embroidery and Special Bias patter console trim plate
Luggage Shade
Memory Package: Recalls 2 driver 'presets' for 6-way power seat, outside mirrors and telescoping steering column
Seat Adjuster: Front passenger, six-way power
Seats: Heated driver and front passenger
Seats: Sport front bucket with perforated leather seating surfaces, includes back angle adjustment, adjustable lumbar and side bolsters and includes embroidery and contrasting stitching
Steering Column: Power telescoping with manual tilt
Universal Home Remote: Includes garage door opener, 3-channel programmable, located on driver visor
Features shown below are in addition to, or in place of 1ZR features:
Audio system: AM/FM stereo with CD/MP3 playback, DVD based touch screen navigation with voice recognition, auto tone control, Radio Data System, TheftLock and 6.5" LCD color display. Includes Bose premium 7 speaker system
Bluetooth for Phone: Personal cell phone connectivity to vehicle audio system and HMI (Human Machine Interface), with specific steering wheel controls
Cargo Net: In rear compartment area
Custom Leather Wrapped Interior Package: Includes leather wrapped intstrument panel, upper door trim panels, console storage cover with 2 tone leather design, seat head restraint ZR1 embroidery and Special Bias patter console trim plate
Luggage Shade
Memory Package: Recalls 2 driver 'presets' for 6-way power seat, outside mirrors and telescoping steering column
Seat Adjuster: Front passenger, six-way power
Seats: Heated driver and front passenger
Seats: Sport front bucket with perforated leather seating surfaces, includes back angle adjustment, adjustable lumbar and side bolsters and includes embroidery and contrasting stitching
Steering Column: Power telescoping with manual tilt
Universal Home Remote: Includes garage door opener, 3-channel programmable, located on driver visor
I think it's all well identified above, but here's the info from the GM build site (the 1ZR starts out by saying it's got everything the 1LT coupe has, so I copied that as well):
Coupe 1LT MSRP $48,565
Active handling, improves traction and enhances vehicle stability
Air bags, frontal, driver and right-front passenger with Passenger Sensing System (Always use safety belts and the correct child restraints for your childs age and size. Even in vehicles equipped with air bags and the Passenger Sensing System, children are safer when properly secured in a rear seat. Never place a rear-facing infant restraint in the front seat of any vehicle equipped with an active frontal air bag. See the vehicles Owners Manual and child safety seat instructions for more safety information.)
Air conditioning, dual-zone automatic climate control with individual climate settings for driver and right-front passenger and outside temperature display
Air filtration system with pollen filter
Antenna, integral, hidden
Audio System AM/FM stereo with CD player and MP3 playback, seek-and-scan, digital clock, auto-tone control, Radio Data System (RDS), automatic volume, TheftLock and auxiliary input jack. Includes 7-speaker system.
Brakes, 4-wheel antilock, 4-wheel disc
Console, floor, 2 covered cup holders, ashtray with cigar lighter, auxiliary power outlet and CD storage
Cruise control, electronic with set and resume speed
Daytime Running Lamps
Defogger, rear-window, electric
Door locks, power programmable with lockout protection
Engine 6.2L V8 SFI (430 hp [320.6 kW] @ 5900 rpm, 424 lb-ft of torque [572.4 N-m] @ 4600 rpm).
Engine access, rear-opening hood
Exhaust, aluminized stainless-steel with 3" polished stainless-steel tips
Floor mats, carpeted
Fog lamps, front, integral in front fascia
Glass, Solar-Ray light-tinted
Hatch release, push button open with power hatch pulldown
Headlamps, dual projector lamps, Xenon, High-Intensity Discharge (HID) low-beam, tungsten-halogen high-beam with automatic exterior lamp control
Instrumentation, electronic analog with Driver Information Center and 2-line display
Keyless Access, with push button start and 2 remote transmitters that enable automatic door unlock and open by touching door switch
Leather seating surfaces
Lighting, interior with courtesy, cargo and glovebox
Mirror, inside rearview auto-dimming with compass, includes dual reading lights
Mirrors, outside heated power-adjustable and driver-side auto-dimming, body- color
Oil life monitoring system
OnStar, 1-year of Safe and Sound plan. Includes Automatic Crash Notification, Automatic Notification of Air Bag Deployment, Stolen Vehicle Location Assistance, a link to all Emergency Services, Roadside Assistance, Remote Door Unlock, OnStar Vehicle Diagnostics, Hands-Free Calling and Remote Horn and Lights (OnStar services require vehicle electrical system (including battery), wireless service and GPS satellite signals to be available and operating for features to function properly. OnStar acts as a link to existing emergency service providers. Stolen Vehicle Location Assistance and Remote Door Unlock success varies with conditions. OnStar Vehicle Diagnostic available on most 2004 MY and newer GM vehicles. Diagnostic capability varies by model. Visit onstar.com or call 1-888-466-7827 for system limitations and details. For a list of vehicles with Automatic Crash Notification visit onstar.com. Not available with a ship-to of Puerto Rico or the Virgin Islands.)
Rear axle, 3.42 ratio, limited slip (STD)
Rear wheel drive
Roof panel, 1-piece body-color, removable
Seat adjuster, driver 6-way power
Seating Front bucket with leather seating surfaces, includes back angle adjustment.
Steering column, Tilt-Wheel, manual
Steering wheel controls, mounted audio controls
Steering wheel, 3-spoke leather-wrapped
Steering, power, speed-sensitive, rack-and-pinion, variable ratio
Storage, with lockable glovebox, center console and 2 rear compartments with covers
Suspension, 4-wheel independent, includes transverse composite springs
Theft-deterrent system, vehicle, push button start, immobilizer and audible visual alarm
Tire Pressure Monitor System, air pressure sensors in each tire with pressure display in Driver Information Center
Tires, front P245/40ZR18 Eagle F1, extended mobility
Tires, rear P285/35ZR19 Eagle F1, extended mobility
Traction control, all-speed
Transmission 6-speed manual, short-throw.
Visors, driver and front passenger illuminated vanity mirrors
Wheels, 5-split spoke, Silver-painted aluminum, 18" x 8.5" (45.7 cm x 21.6 cm), front and 19" x 10.0 " (48.3 cm x 25.4 cm), rear (STD)
Windows, power with driver and passenger Express-Down
Wipers, front intermittent
XM Radio, XM Radio includes 3 trial months of service. XM turns your world on with commercial-free music channels from Rock to Jazz, Country to Classical, Latin Pop to Hip Hop, and virtually everything in between, all in amazing digital sound. Turn on your favorite Sports with every Major League Baseball game from Opening Day until the World Series, NHL Hockey, the PGA TOUR and college football and basketball. Plus XM brings you the biggest names in news and talk, outrageous comedy, award-winning family programming -- wherever you go from coast to coast. Exclusive live concerts, Oprah & Friends, Radio Disney, and so much more. Find what turns you on (Includes hidden antenna in outside mirrors. Available only in the 48 contiguous United States. Required $12.95 monthly subscription sold separately after 3 trial months. Visit gm.xmradio.com for more details.)
ZR1 1ZR MSRP $103,970
Same as [Coupe 1LT] Plus:
Engine 6.2L supercharged V8 SFI with dry sump oil system (638 hp [475.7 kW] @ 6500 rpm, 604 lb-ft of torque [815.4 N-m] @ 3800 rpm).
Exhaust, dual-mode aluminized stainless-steel with 4" polished stainless- steel tips
Frame, aluminum
Head-Up Display, with dot-matrix readouts for street mode, track mode with g-meter, vehicle speed, engine rpm and readings from key gauges including water temperature and oil pressure
Magnetic Selective Ride Control for ultimate driver control and comfort through the use of driver-selected Tour or Sport modes
Perforated leather seating surfaces
Seats, front bucket with perforated leather seating surfaces, embroidery and contrasting stitching (STD)
Storage, with lockable glovebox and center console
Tires, front P285/30ZR19 Michelin PS2, extended mobility
Tires, rear P335/25ZR20 Michelin PS2, extended mobility
Wheels, ZR1 sterling silver painted aluminum, 19" x 10" (48.3 cm x 25.4 cm) front and 20" x 12" (50.8 cm x 30.48 cm) rear (STD)
ZR1 Performance Package, 4-wheel independent, includes transverse composite springs, power steering, engine oil, axle and transmission coolers, stiffer springs and stabilizer bars, Magnetic Selective Ride Control, larger Brembo ceramic brakes with cross-drilled rotors and specific tires
ZR1 carbon fiber components, includes roof, roof bow, front splitter and rocker extension with visible clear-coated carbon fiber weave pattern plus body-color dual front cove fenders, floor panel and raised hood with window
ZR1 3ZR MSRP $113,970
Same as [Coupe 1LT] Plus:
Air bags, frontal and side-impact, driver and front passenger with Passenger Sensing System (Always use safety belts and the correct child restraints for your childs age and size. Even in vehicles equipped with air bags and the Passenger Sensing System, children are safer when properly secured in a rear seat. Never place a rear-facing infant restraint in the front seat of any vehicle equipped with an active frontal air bag. See the vehicles Owners Manual and child safety seat instructions for more safety information.)
Audio system with navigation, AM/FM stereo with CD player, MP3 playback and DVD-based touch-screen navigation, seek-and-scan, digital clock, auto-tone control, Radio Data System (RDS), automatic volume, TheftLock, 6.5" LCD color display and voice recognition. Includes (U65) Bose premium 7-speaker system (STD)
Bluetooth for phone, personal cell phone connectivity to vehicle audio system and HMI (Human Machine Interface), with specific steering wheel controls
Cargo net, in rear compartment area
Custom Leather Wrapped Interior Package , features leather-wrapped upper instrument panel, upper door trim panels and console storage cover. Exclusive leather color and two-tone design includes seat headrest "tonal" crossed flag embroidery and enhanced armrest padding. Special Bias pattern console trim plate
Engine 6.2L supercharged V8 SFI with dry sump oil system (638 hp [475.7 kW] @ 6500 rpm, 604 lb-ft of torque [815.4 N-m] @ 3800 rpm).
Exhaust, dual-mode aluminized stainless-steel with 4" polished stainless- steel tips
Frame, aluminum
Head-Up Display, with dot-matrix readouts for street mode, track mode with g-meter, vehicle speed, engine rpm and readings from key gauges including water temperature and oil pressure
Luggage shade
Magnetic Selective Ride Control for ultimate driver control and comfort through the use of driver-selected Tour or Sport modes
Memory Package, recalls 2 driver "presets" for 6-way power seat, outside mirrors and telescoping steering column
Perforated leather seating surfaces
Seat adjuster, front passenger 6-way power
Seats, Sport front bucket with perforated leather seating surfaces, includes back angle adjustment, adjustable lumbar and side bolsters (Includes embroidery and contrasting stitching) (STD)
Seats, heated driver and front passenger
Steering column, power telescopic with manual tilt
Storage, with lockable glovebox and center console
Tires, front P285/30ZR19 Michelin PS2, extended mobility
Tires, rear P335/25ZR20 Michelin PS2, extended mobility
Universal Home Remote, includes garage door opener, 3-channel programmable, located on driver visor
Wheels, ZR1 sterling silver painted aluminum, 19" x 10" (48.3 cm x 25.4 cm) front and 20" x 12" (50.8 cm x 30.48 cm) rear (STD)
ZR1 Performance Package, 4-wheel independent, includes transverse composite springs, power steering, engine oil, axle and transmission coolers, stiffer springs and stabilizer bars, Magnetic Selective Ride Control, larger Brembo ceramic brakes with cross-drilled rotors and specific tires
ZR1 carbon fiber components, includes roof, roof bow, front splitter and rocker extension with visible clear-coated carbon fiber weave pattern plus body-color dual front cove fenders, floor panel and raised hood with window
Under "Model" select ZR1, leave all the other search parameters "Don't care", then hit the "Find 209 Corvettes" button.
You'll see a list of all the ZR1 Corvettes in dealer inventory.
Every one of them is a 3ZR.
I think that doesn't mean they won't build a 1ZR, rather it just means that every one a dealer is ordering under their allocations that hasn't been pre-ordered by a customer is being ordered as a 3ZR.
So.....I imagine if they're not building any in 1ZR trim, it's just because nobody is ordering them that way.
I really don't see any item in the 3ZR package that I couldn't live without. Particularly for $10K!!! This is a race car. Why add weight that you don't need? Not a lot of weight granted but it does add weight and every pound counts.
Thanks BEZ06 and others for the information concerning the 1ZR and 3ZR option packages. I'm not surprised that all the dealers are ordering the 3ZR for the ZR1s going into inventory. A 10K add on is great for GM and the dealers selling off the floor. I just wish I could get the factory leather wrapped interior without all the other do-dads. Oh well, life is like that some times.
I think it's sad that you have to pay extra for side airbags in a $110,000 car, ESPECIALLY a car that GM knows will be driven hard and fast. It's pathetic that you don't get a power seat for the passenger also. I don't think Mercedes sells a $110,000 car with a manual passenger front seat. Do they?
Has anybody else heard they are not building the 1ZR. Is there a way to document this fact?
Z06 Sport is full of it. As of the first 300 built cars, only 1 was ordered as a 1ZR car. Dealerships realize there is more money % wise in profit in ordering a fully loaded car, and most people seem to want a fully loaded car for resale.
Hum, not a race car? Must be an economy car. Apparently you do not drag race.
No. I pound pavement on the local road course AND use my car as a daily driver.
The ZR1, like all factory Corvettes, is first and foremost a road-going GT car. It's not a factory-built race car. Any thoughts otherwise are pure folly. And, because its primary role is that of a road-going car, it has luxury options available for it.
If you want a drag racer, build one. It'll be cheaper and probably faster.
jas
Last edited by jvp; 12-02-2008 at 04:33 PM.
Reason: i kant spel
It's NOT a race car. It's a really freakin fast GT car. The mass added by the luxury items included in the upgrades is of little concern.
jas
with jas!!!
My Z06 is a GT car, and if I ever get a ZR1 it will be a GT car as well.
I thrash the hell out of the Z06 on the track, it's a daily driver around town, and I've done a number of long road trips in it. That's exactly what I'd do with a ZR1 if I get one - it would see plenty of track time, but it wouldn't be a race car.
You can make an all-out race car out of any Corvette, but mine remain streetable GT cars.
Here's a cut-n-paste from Wikipedia:
Characteristics
Grand tourers differ from typical sports cars (e.g. Lotus Elise, Porsche 911) in that they are usually larger, heavier (sometimes more than 3,500 lb (1,600 kg)), and tend to make less compromise in comfort for the sake of driving ability. For this reason, most have front-mounted engines, which leave more space for the cabin than mid-mounted engines. They tend to have softer suspensions to provide good ride quality. They also provide bigger storage space and more accessories. However, grand tourers do have similarities with sports cars, such as their use mainly of rear- or four-wheel drive, and the term sports car may be used to describe a car with grand touring qualities. Very high-performance grand tourers, such as the Aston Martin DB9, Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, Nissan GT-R and the Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren, may be considered to be supercars.
Because of their powerful engines, grand tourers can still compete with many sports cars in top-speed and acceleration. However, in terms of handling they are a magnitude below sports cars, because of their weight and softer suspension. Grand tourers excel at high speed, long distance travel, or races, and make more practical daily drivers than sports cars.
Classification
In certain professional motorsport classifications, such as the Grand Touring categories promoted by the FIA, the GT car is defined as "an open or closed automobile which has no more than one door on each side and a minimum of two seats situated one on each side of the longitudinal centre line of the car; these two seats must be crossed by the same transversal plane. This car must be able to be used perfectly legally on the open road, and adapted for racing on circuits or closed courses."
Using the above definition, it is still valid to place sport cars such as the Corvette and the 911 in the grand touring category since they do contain many, if not all, the amenities of a grand tourer. However, this weakness in motorsport classification sometimes blurs the line of what is considered a true production grand tourer, and may lead to mis-classification.
I bet not too many ZR1's will be turned into track-only race cars.
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differences between 1ZR and 3ZR
The 3LZ does have the tilt/telescopic wheel.
