How do you handle the same problem GM had with yellowing over time? Of course their additive was VERY expensive...geez, wasn't it 60k / gallon?
We don't have deep pocket to do the PR like GM. But we can give you the fact that we have mounted our Carbon A-Pillar Frame on our C6 since 06 and it still looks like brand new, crystal clear. We can remove it and send to you and you won't even know it's been used for almost 3 years. Some members can echo our comment.
As I reported before, the ZR1's carbon already look milky even it's brand new. If you take close look you can see the blurry burgendy coating and sometimes with milky spots all around but ours is crystal clear.
We don't have deep pocket to do the PR like GM. But we can give you the fact that we have mounted our Carbon A-Pillar Frame on our C6 since 06 and it still looks like brand new, crystal clear. We can remove it and send to you and you won't even know it's been used for almost 3 years. Some members can echo our comment.
As I reported before, the ZR1's carbon already look milky even it's brand new. If you take close look you can see the blurry burgendy coating and sometimes with milky spots all around but ours is crystal clear.
Do you see any "milky spots" in these photos below. The photos you showed from a previous thread were from a "pre-production" mule and not from a production car. i have now seen 6 production ZR1s and have not noticed any of these imperfect areas. Sure the color may be different, this may have something to do with the UV additive that GM calls for in their carbon fiber production:
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Member: Tampa Bay Vettes, C6Registry, NCM, Bowling Green Assembly Corvette Club
Past:
1985 Black Coupe
1988 Black Convertible
1998 Black Coupe
1999 Black Coupe
2007 Black Z06
2008 Black Convertible - Given to my Father
2009 Black ZR1
Now:
2009 Z06 Atomic Orange/Ebony, 2LZ, Navigation, Spider Design Chrome Wheels.
2010 ZR1 Black/ Ebony, 3ZR, VIN 800098, Competition Grey Wheels, Museum Delivery, Build Date 9/03, Delivered on 9/27.
Do you see any "milky spots" in these photos below. The photos you showed from a previous thread were from a "pre-production" mule and not from a production car. i have now seen 6 production ZR1s and have not noticed any of these imperfect areas. Sure the color may be different, this may have something to do with the UV additive that GM calls for in their carbon fiber production:
Thanks for the pictures. Great to know your ZR1 carbon is OK.
That looks like un "milky" carbon fiber. A few more pix but try to get a bit closer to the car. I think I can see one little itsy bitsy milky spot but I'm not sure.
That looks like un "milky" carbon fiber. A few more pix but try to get a bit closer to the car. I think I can see one little itsy bitsy milky spot but I'm not sure.
they are cloud reflections, although you could consider that to be cloudy carbon fibre
It's all very nice, and certainly would seem to be of high quality.
However, speaking of Carbon Fiber in general (not yours specifically) .
When I look at the 09 ZR1, it reminds me of the 58 Vette in some way.
Could CF be considered the 2009 version of 50's Chrome and Louvers?
( also very nice, but somewhat useless, although I DO like the 58's )
While it (CF) all looks very nice and shiney, and I certainly understand how it saves weight when replacing metal pieces on a race car. What is the fascination with putting it absolutely everywhere on a street car?
O.K., maybe I am just getting a bit old to understand, and Chrome did look good afterall, throughout the 50's and 60's.
I saw a BMW yesterday with a CF trunklid.
I failed to see how that helps much on the street.
Perhaps the same money poured into the engine might have made more of a difference?
do you have images showing how well the your parts match the ZR1's parts ?
Indeed, when you put our carbon parts next to ZR1's, you will see ours is much more clear in coating. But since the A-Pillar Frame is facing different direction so it will look OK.
What I tried to reply in the previous post is about the weaving. Both ours and ZR's are same 2x2 weaving. So the carbon itself does match nicely. (there are many different spec for carbon out there)
Most any exposed carbon fiber part will yellow in time. It's the epoxy resin that breaks down under heavy Ultra Violet and visible llight loads.
GM provided a part that will not yellow under any circumstance for the targeted life of the vehicle. Down to the guy who lives on the equator and parks in the sun every day. That is why the additive is so expensive.
BTW, only a small amount is used on the CF, the rest is just clear coat.