I consistently run 11.1-11.25. I've had an 11.04 (best) and an 11.05.
That's awesome. You are .7 seconds faster than almost every other GTR owner out there. Guess you got a perfect build car off the assembly line (happens every so often) but I can only imagine the severe launch shutter you get from it. Ugly cars but they do perform ok for a few months until the drive components just can't take anymore
That's awesome. You are .7 seconds faster than almost every other GTR owner out there. Guess you got a perfect build car off the assembly line (happens every so often) but I can only imagine the severe launch shutter you get from it. Ugly cars but they do perform ok for a few months until the drive components just can't take anymore
My car is not stock. Some of the piping has been replaced and the boost level has been raised. Stronger actuators but the same stock turbos. The car stock dyno's around 420 to the wheels. Mine is just over 600 now. So far from what it was stock. It's a ton of fun to drive.
Bottom line: The GT-R is a cool car. If you could get one for $70,000, it would be a heck-of-a-car. Even under 100K it's a fair deal. But it "ain't" close to the ZR1 in performance. Stock, moded, or otherwise. PERIOD. PERIOD. PERIOD.........
Not even modded? That's the silliest statement ever made. With the few mods on my GT-R right now it will probably outrun the ZR1 on a race track, at the drag strip, or in a street race. The street race (from a roll) would most likely go to the ZR1, but that will no longer be the case within another two weeks when I complete the next set of mods to my GT-R. (Race exhaust, improved air intake, IC, etc.) And about 4-6 weeks after that it won't even be close when I upgrade to larger turbos.
So seriously, that's a silly statement that not even a modded GT-R can outperform a stock ZR1. Don't go making any wagers on it or you'll end up homeless.
Not even modded? That's the silliest statement ever made. With the few mods on my GT-R right now it will probably outrun the ZR1 on a race track, at the drag strip, or in a street race. The street race (from a roll) would most likely go to the ZR1, but that will no longer be the case within another two weeks when I complete the next set of mods to my GT-R. (Race exhaust, improved air intake, IC, etc.) And about 4-6 weeks after that it won't even be close when I upgrade to larger turbos.
So seriously, that's a silly statement that not even a modded GT-R can outperform a stock ZR1. Don't go making any wagers on it or you'll end up homeless.
Do you need to upgrade the motors internals and the gear box? What about the rest of the drive line?
Seems like your taking a huge gamble with a relatively unknown commodity that's already proven it's self to be on the edge of it's design limits.
It's no secret that the GT-R wants to be a 997 Turbo but there is no way it can compare. The 997 is built to a level that the GT-R could never dream of.
Do you need to upgrade the motors internals and the gear box? What about the rest of the drive line?
Seems like your taking a huge gamble with a relatively unknown commodity that's already proven it's self to be on the edge of it's design limits.
It's no secret that the GT-R wants to be a 997 Turbo but there is no way it can compare. The 997 is built to a level that the GT-R could never dream of.
The GTR would be a pile of parts after the first 10 feet of launch.
Oh.. The service interval for the 997TT? First service due at 20,000 miles. GTR? Every other outing?
I am sure that the ZR1 can be moded as well and if something goes pop it won't cost 20K to repair.
You do realize the previous generation of this GT-R has been successfully modded to well over 1,000HP? Many of the previous Skyline GT-Rs are some of the fastest cars in the world.
And there is no 20K repair if you're dealing with a highly modified car -- only an idiot would pay Nissan to fix something. As I previously mentioned, many are already in the works of creating upgraded transmission gearboxes, etc. that would eliminate that "20K repair" stuff.
The GT-R is only going to get SCARY FAST in a short amount of time. Someone just today set a new record... 10.88 @ 133.5
Not even modded? That's the silliest statement ever made. With the few mods on my GT-R right now it will probably outrun the ZR1 on a race track, at the drag strip, or in a street race. The street race (from a roll) would most likely go to the ZR1, but that will no longer be the case within another two weeks when I complete the next set of mods to my GT-R. (Race exhaust, improved air intake, IC, etc.) And about 4-6 weeks after that it won't even be close when I upgrade to larger turbos.
So seriously, that's a silly statement that not even a modded GT-R can outperform a stock ZR1. Don't go making any wagers on it or you'll end up homeless.
Im sure he meant modded to modded, stock to stock etc but it was a pretty general statement.....Anyway anyone with a brain knows a modded car can beat a stock car given enough money/mods even if the gap is as large as it is between these two stock to stock.
Besides Supras Vipers and Vettes the Skyline/GTR has always been a force to reakon with outside of the US. Those that dont know will know soon enough how potent these cars have always been when modified even moderately....
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There have been bone stock Z06's that have broken into the 10's. So what.
My point is that the GTR won't survive massive modifications. It's already proving that. And if the old version was so great why is the new one not an improvement in reliability? Why is Nissan disabling the launch feature on new cars?
The real question is why would you want to take a chance blowing up the transmission? Just because you can get a "deal" on a new one?
It amazes me that Nissan engineers work for years developing a car and Joe's generic hop up shop can bend a pipe and bolt on a new turbo can make it significantly better. Why didn't Nissan just do it from the start? Maybe they know the limits of the car?
Any car can be modified to go fast if you put enough money into it. The GTR is a car that you will need to put a bunch into to make it go fast reliably.
There have been bone stock Z06's that have broken into the 10's. So what.
My point is that the GTR won't survive massive modifications. It's already proving that. And if the old version was so great why is the new one not an improvement in reliability? Why is Nissan disabling the launch feature on new cars?
The real question is why would you want to take a chance blowing up the transmission? Just because you can get a "deal" on a new one?
It amazes me that Nissan engineers work for years developing a car and Joe's generic hop up shop can bend a pipe and bolt on a new turbo can make it significantly better. Why didn't Nissan just do it from the start? Maybe they know the limits of the car?
Any car can be modified to go fast if you put enough money into it. The GTR is a car that you will need to put a bunch into to make it go fast reliably.
It's Nissan taste with Ferrari cost of ownership.
No offense, dude, but you don't know what the hell you're talking about. There's no evidence that the GT-R R35 isn't a reliable piece of engineering capable of supporting a lot of additional power.
Yes, there have been a few broken gearboxes from abusing the launch control. But there have also been many other GT-Rs (like mine) that haven't had any gearbox issues at all; even with a lot of launching. It's very possible that there was a bad batch of gearboxes during production that made their way into SOME of the cars. Nissan is removing launch control because of the PR nightmare the few that broke have caused. And the fact that many users are MORONS and don't understand the fine print that if you abuse LC and something breaks they are not going to pay to fix it -- it's like this with any car. Go and do a bunch of high revving clutch dumps in the ZR1 and see if they pay for the repairs. They certainly won't if they realize you've abused the car. This is how it is for ANY car manfacturer.
As far as why didn't Nissan just make the car with the "bend pipe and bigger turbo" from the beginning, this is the age old question about ANY CAR that can be modified. Why didn't Chevy have pre-installed high HP pulleys on all Vettes?
There has been one report so far of a blown GT-R engine and that was Haltech's in Australia. They were pushing a ton of boost to the stock turbos (yes, there is a point where the stock injectors and stock turbos reach their limits; not the engine) as well as running the car very hard on a race track. They themselves even admit that they were putting the car under a tremendous amount of stress. So it's yet to be seen how much power the new GT-R platform can easily handle. I imagine for around $15K in mods the car can easily handle 900+HP. That's far cheaper than most other cars in that power range.
Any car can be modified to go fast if you put enough money into it. The GTR is a car that you will need to put a bunch into to make it go fast reliably.
It's Nissan taste with Ferrari cost of ownership.
Changing the internals on the V-10 Viper, post '99, also costs a bunch. But I hear they love it.
There have been bone stock Z06's that have broken into the 10's. So what.
Not on stock tires like these 10 second runs have been done with. And what was it, ONE known occurrence of a stock Z06 running 10s? If it's that common why hasn't it been done 100s of times?
* A quick check of dragtimes.com shows it was possible done TWICE, both with drag radials.
A 10 second pass is a lot bigger deal than you probably realize. It takes a very FAST car to pull it off.
A 2004 bolt on C5Z06 recently ran in the 10s. Car has 4.10 gears, American racing headers, a vararam cold air intake and a textralia clutch installed. Pretty amazing.
Only stuck on themselves domestic bone heads like yourself think they are ugly. you guys are like the loosers on american idol whom think they got singing talent but everyone else thinks the singings causes paint to come off the walls.
you need to "get out of your cave" and go visit some car club meets and see all the good looking girls riding all up the evo owners.
shoot him me a pm next time your in kansas city. I will embarrass ya with the more attention my car gets, and embarrass you more when I win ya on the streets with my meth injected evo.
POINT, SET, MATCH
KC resident here. Would love to see the Evo and your high school diploma.
Not on stock tires like these 10 second runs have been done with. And what was it, ONE known occurrence of a stock Z06 running 10s? If it's that common why hasn't it been done 100s of times?
* A quick check of dragtimes.com shows it was possible done TWICE, both with drag radials.
A 10 second pass is a lot bigger deal than you probably realize. It takes a very FAST car to pull it off.
I know most of the folks on this web site don't realize how fast a 10 second car is, this is the Nissan Sentra R forum, no?
The Z06 is a very fast car and a bone stock car did run in the 10's, you will find your answer right on this very web site.
In fact if you look you will see that there is a complete listing of cars stock as well as modified including several running in the 9's.
Good luck with your GTR... I hope you don't get this dreaded letter from Nissan... Looks like they want GT-R owners as life time customers, in there parts department.
I know most of the folks on this web site don't realize how fast a 10 second car is, this is the Nissan Sentra R forum, no?
The Z06 is a very fast car and a bone stock car did run in the 10's, you will find your answer right on this very web site.
In fact if you look you will see that there is a complete listing of cars stock as well as modified including several running in the 9's.
Good luck with your GTR... I hope you don't get this dreaded letter from Nissan... Looks like they want GT-R owners as life time customers, in there parts department.
You do realize that I've seen all of these Nissan documents, blog posts, press releases, new product announcements, and more TIMES 100 than you probably have, right?
You keep beating a dead horse. This letter corresponds with one of the cases where the owner abused launch control. We've been over this a million times now.
As for your 10-second Z06, I stand corrected; I misread the listing on drag times and thought it said drag radials. It said street radials but the video shown was on drag radials for a similar time.
However, I'd hardly call this Z06 'standard'. Either the guy isn't telling the truth about the car being completely bone stock or he got a rare engine build that was stronger than all the others. How come no one else has been able to come within .3 of a 10.9 with their stock Z06. No one else in the world. And how come this guy's trap speed is 5+mph faster than any other stock Z06 ever publicly documented via dragtimes.com? Seems a little fishy.
However, I'd hardly call this Z06 'standard'. Either the guy isn't telling the truth about the car being completely bone stock or he got a rare engine build that was stronger than all the others. How come no one else has been able to come within .3 of a 10.9 with their stock Z06. No one else in the world. And how come this guy's trap speed is 5+mph faster than any other stock Z06 ever publicly documented via dragtimes.com? Seems a little fishy.
Maybe you should read other portions of this forum.
John Turbo. He is right. There are a lot of guys on here that don't put themselves on the fast list. If you make a good pass it doesn't automatically go on the fast list. You have to follow a protocol to get on it and some don't bother to do it. Myself being one.
My first time at the track when my Z06 was bone stock I hit an 11.7 @ 125mph and my best before I started to mod it was an 11.4 @ 126.6mph. I ran a 10.9 @ 131.7mph on BALD Run Flats this summer with cam and headers and tune in my Z06 and I know with better rubber under me it would see mid 10's.
My GR-R's best time at the track Bone stock was an 11.5 @ 121.70mph and I'm sure with the mods that will be installed over the winter it will be much faster than that but owning both cars I can tell you the Z06 has an edge in straight-line performance stock vs stock. The ZR1 is putting down about the same power as my cam and header Z06 and I think we will see 10.6's @ 133+ mph out of bone stock cars after winter for sure. So no contest there. The ZR1 will smoke them both stock for stock. GM put out an amazing car with the ZR1 and we will see much more out of this platform I'm sure of it.
I know where your going with the GT-R. Your saying with the same power it is just as fast as a stock ZR-1 but I have to agree stock vs modded is not a good test as there are too many variables involved. An argument that has been going on for as long as I can remember. All factory stock cars have their strong points and weaknesses and sometimes it takes aftermarket parts to balance those out. Some more than others.
Lets face it all these cars we are talking about in this thread are great performance cars and in some cases $$ bargains co pared to how they stack up against their competition. We are in another "Golden era" for a car enthusiast and I'm enjoying it. So much to choose from. I just got back from SEMA and I was like a kid in a candy store! Picked up a few sponsors for the GT-R and got some ideas for what is next for my Z06. I can see a ZR1 or a TT Viper in my future for sure.
All I can say is I wish I was Jay Leno!
Enjoy your car and don't get involved with the Ed*** debate. It is pointless and there are no winners. It happens on every site.
Maybe you should read other portions of this forum.
I have and you simply solidify my exact point. That one run is 5mph+ faster than the best averages of everyone else and no one is within .3+ of his run. That's all I was saying. It seems like a freak of nature engine build because no one Z06s come close. .3 of a second when you get into low 11s is a HUGE difference in time and power.
Enjoy your car and don't get involved with the Ed*** debate. It is pointless and there are no winners. It happens on every site.
Well said. I wasn't trying to get into a major BS debate anyway, just adding some food for thought for a nice car discussion. I actually LIKE the ZR1 and have stated multiple time it's an impressive machine. I guess it just bugs me to see people talk crap about the GT-R when they obviously don't know what an incredible engineering feat it is.
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read john turbo's posts from the beginning.......the kid doesn't even own one
