The one nice thing about this forum is information and opinion, the one not so nice thing about this forum is information and opinion. As a result I am now more ambivilant than ever about the ZR-1. I an on a "list" at one dealer for the first two and at another dealer for the first ZR-1 to be allocated (certainly at "market" price). In spite of this, this very day, I am taking my 2006 Z-06 to a shop to estimate money/horspower. For a little over $3,000 I can increase my car 50rwhp and for around $15,000 100+rwhp. As I ponder this issue, ranging from dealer allocations to first year depreciation, and especially the fact that the ZR-1 may even look worse than my car (I don't like the peek through hood as an example), it seems to me I can enjoy my car as far as raw power is concerned as much for (what?) $150,000 less than a ZR-1 and wait for the car to be advertised in Autoweek by some guy who is in way over his head and needs MSRP or close in a hurry. Just another man's story.. Best
The one nice thing about this forum is information and opinion, the one not so nice thing about this forum is information and opinion. As a result I am now more ambivilant than ever about the ZR-1. I an on a "list" at one dealer for the first two and at another dealer for the first ZR-1 to be allocated (certainly at "market" price). In spite of this, this very day, I am taking my 2006 Z-06 to a shop to estimate money/horspower. For a little over $3,000 I can increase my car 50rwhp and for around $15,000 100+rwhp. As I ponder this issue, ranging from dealer allocations to first year depreciation, and especially the fact that the ZR-1 may even look worse than my car (I don't like the peek through hood as an example), it seems to me I can enjoy my car as far as raw power is concerned as much for (what?) $150,000 less than a ZR-1 and wait for the car to be advertised in Autoweek by some guy who is in way over his head and needs MSRP or close in a hurry. Just another man's story.. Best
The ZR1 is going to be neat. I don't like the window either. I also wonder how you get the suspension computers fixed if something goes wrong a few years down the road? My plan is to enjoy my Katech 07 Z for a few more years and if the ZR1s come down in price I might consider one. My car already matches or is better than the ZR1 in pounds per HP!
The ZR1 is going to be neat. I don't like the window either. I also wonder how you get the suspension computers fixed if something goes wrong a few years down the road? My plan is to enjoy my Katech 07 Z for a few more years and if the ZR1s come down in price I might consider one. My car already matches or is better than the ZR1 in pounds per HP!
Well said, and same here, Jim! BTW, going to Sebring?
I made the decision today. I can get 580-600rwhp and presuming the ZR-1 "market" price is $150,000, save $138,000. Not too hard a decision really. It will give me something to do until the ZR-1 pricing sorts itself out. Best
The one nice thing about this forum is information and opinion, the one not so nice thing about this forum is information and opinion. As a result I am now more ambivilant than ever about the ZR-1. I an on a "list" at one dealer for the first two and at another dealer for the first ZR-1 to be allocated (certainly at "market" price). In spite of this, this very day, I am taking my 2006 Z-06 to a shop to estimate money/horspower. For a little over $3,000 I can increase my car 50rwhp and for around $15,000 100+rwhp. As I ponder this issue, ranging from dealer allocations to first year depreciation, and especially the fact that the ZR-1 may even look worse than my car (I don't like the peek through hood as an example), it seems to me I can enjoy my car as far as raw power is concerned as much for (what?) $150,000 less than a ZR-1 and wait for the car to be advertised in Autoweek by some guy who is in way over his head and needs MSRP or close in a hurry. Just another man's story.. Best
Don't forget the 15,000 braking system, add that alone to the 80k you spend for a new Z06 and it's not that far apart, my new ZR1 will look nice in the stable next my 06 2lz z.
Don't forget the 15,000 braking system, add that alone to the 80k you spend for a new Z06 and it's not that far apart, my new ZR1 will look nice in the stable next my 06 2lz z.
Don't forget the 15,000 braking system, add that alone to the 80k you spend for a new Z06 and it's not that far apart, my new ZR1 will look nice in the stable next my 06 2lz z.
Since I already own a Z-06, the money was spent. To buy a ZR-1 the money will need to be spent. Personally, owning a car with Ceramic Brakes, I don't see the value of "bigger" brakes, except for track racing. Clearly, there is more to this than dollars and cents. All of us seek an unqauntifiable "joy" factor. We are all after the same thing. Best
Since I already own a Z-06, the money was spent. To buy a ZR-1 the money will need to be spent. Personally, owning a car with Ceramic Brakes, I don't see the value of "bigger" brakes, except for track racing. Clearly, there is more to this than dollars and cents. All of us seek an unqauntifiable "joy" factor. We are all after the same thing. Best
I agree, to have a car like or this or a Z06 and not track it is a shame, these cars are made to run and should be run hard. the z is awesome on the track right out of the box and the zr-1 is sure to be that much better.
I can't wait
I made the decision today. I can get 580-600rwhp and presuming the ZR-1 "market" price is $150,000, save $138,000. Not too hard a decision really. It will give me something to do until the ZR-1 pricing sorts itself out. Best
Thanks for FINALLY taking yourself out of the market. Your posts have always pointed to: "I wont' buy - convince me to do so."
Thanks for FINALLY taking yourself out of the market. Your posts have always pointed to: "I wont' buy - convince me to do so."
Guess you will NOT buy.
Thanks for leaving one other to those that
WILL.
Best.
Presuming good will, I can share with you that I have truly wrestled with this for sometime. I may still purchase a car for resale, but can't justify (an estimated) $150,000 for better brakes and suspension. Incidentally, I road race a C6, but my Z-06 is limited to highway and freeway drives, with an occassional visit to a track. Best
I think some people miss the point. This is not a moded car and it has a warranty. It is a unique one of a kind model, not another munkied with car that is hard to resell because everyone wonders, "what did you do with all that horse power, beat on it?" not to mention the reliability issues that usually come with mods.
Just because someone is at "market value" should not weigh into the decision. If it's "market value" price that deters one, wait until the price comes back to earth to buy one or look a little harder. I found two dealers at MSRP and have a number one position. True I made arrangements months ago, however with the economy, many are dropping out and if you really want one, I believe you could find one at or close to msrp. I like the hood window and bet people will marvel at it at shows or at the traffic light. It too is unique and not so easy to replicate as a wannabe car. IMO those types of things add value.
So, why couldn't you sell your Z06 to mitigate the cost of the ZR1?
I like the Z-06 and for street use it is more than adequate. I paid $72,000 for a 2006 Z-06 within 2 months of their release. I can afford to buy the Zr-1 and garage it next to my other cars including a Porsche Turbo, Bentley GT, Ferrari 430. My issue is why? I am not (whatever the word is analogous to the Ferrari "tifosi") a Corvette (car) nut. I just like the Corvette and have road race them for years gaining respect for their characteristics. No, my issue is what am I spending (possibly) $150,000 for at the end of the day, brakes and suspension, with a body virtually identical to the one I drive? I respect and appreciate engineering development and also truly respect the cars heritage. However, as a car enthusiast I am not limited to one car and for me it does not seem to add much more than can be obtained by spending a few thousand for a Paxton Turbo Charger and Headers. I can add a cam for a few more dollars and leave the ZR-1 in the dust. So, if speed is the issue (since so many are impressed by the horsepower) that is a simple matter, but if it is "ego" or "bragging rights" then neither money nor any aspect of the looks or drive train of the ZR-1 are relevant anyway. Best
I sold 2 2006 Z-06's for $77,000 each....I made a $3000 commission on each of them of course the dealership made more but thats what I was there for...to make them money selling Vettes...and I did.
I think some people miss the point. This is not a moded car and it has a warranty. It is a unique one of a kind model, not another munkied with car that is hard to resell because everyone wonders, "what did you do with all that horse power, beat on it?" not to mention the reliability issues that usually come with mods.
........................... wait until the price comes back to earth to buy one ...............
That is my plan as well - wait until the price comes back down to earth. And it will in time.
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For street use, the ZR1 is just going to be a different variation of a Z06. One will be a supercharged 6.2 liter( & at least 150 lbs heavier) & the other will be a normally aspirated 427. Two different ways of having ultimate street cars that only come in fixed roof manual tranny versions. Imho the ZR1 won't be any better than the Z06, just different.
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Your posts have always pointed to: "I wont' buy - convince me to do so."
That is my plan as well - wait until the price comes back down to earth. And it will in time. 
