debating another C6Z
#1
debating another C6Z
so i’ve been around the block and have had 4 c6z now. ranging from a stock 4k mile car to a sleeved/forged H/C/I car, i’ve had a good range. last one i sold was a low mileage heads only car to get a zr1, but the deal didn’t pan out.
now i’m back looking to fill my car void and the c6z always brings me back. found a red 2008 1 owner with 6k miles for 45k. bone stock down to the stock tires even (i know it needs replacing).
my plans are to do WCCH/FED heads, 1 7/8 LT’s, and a MGW. a simple oem+ build since the 500whp mark is plenty for me.
would you all say this is a fair deal? should i be considering any other options in the 40-50k range? i always find myself worrying about the Ti rods and valve issues, but damn i love the driving experience these cars provide.
thanks in advance
now i’m back looking to fill my car void and the c6z always brings me back. found a red 2008 1 owner with 6k miles for 45k. bone stock down to the stock tires even (i know it needs replacing).
my plans are to do WCCH/FED heads, 1 7/8 LT’s, and a MGW. a simple oem+ build since the 500whp mark is plenty for me.
would you all say this is a fair deal? should i be considering any other options in the 40-50k range? i always find myself worrying about the Ti rods and valve issues, but damn i love the driving experience these cars provide.
thanks in advance
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#3
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I think you will do heads to address valve guide issue.
but the Ti rods i really feel is from constant high rev situations , like over 7k shift points. If that wont be done (like stock cam) , i think its a non issue. And easily tracked with Blackstone oil reports
but the Ti rods i really feel is from constant high rev situations , like over 7k shift points. If that wont be done (like stock cam) , i think its a non issue. And easily tracked with Blackstone oil reports
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WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? PULL THE TRIGGER ALREADY The price also sounds fair and inline if otherwise everything else checks out with the car.
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In perspective I picked up a 2009 11K C6Z no mods and had original tires as well date code of sept 08. I purchased it in dec of 22. And I paid a little more than 45K. It was the way I wanted it 2lt and cyber gray metallic. I didn't care to pay a little extra at the time as it is my dream car.
I since then fixed the heads and put new tires on etc. and have an MGW enroute so i can do that install. I put a few thousand miles on it since and the same with the smiles. Buy it, enjoy it. You can't take it with you.
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I agree with this as well. Comparable C5Zs are creeping into the low to mid 30 and as time goes by I can’t see those cars doing anything other than continuing that slow but upward trend …apples to apples C6Zs will/should slot above their older siblings. modern 3 pedal cars will remain a safe bet. high tide raises all ships
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In reference to the titanium issue being directly related to modded track cars...I once thought the same and wish this were true. I picked up a bone-stock 17K mile 2006 from an old man to try and avoid this problem altogether, and the rod coating was already long gone with titanium shavings all throughout the oil. I now have an awesome forged engine.
Nevertheless, these cars are addicting, and I knew the risk when I bought my now-third one. There's something about them that no other car can match which is why we deal with this crap.
Nevertheless, these cars are addicting, and I knew the risk when I bought my now-third one. There's something about them that no other car can match which is why we deal with this crap.
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You are right. But they are money pits, regardless of whatever way you go towards a head fix.
i have put enough in mine that I could have at one point bought 2 lol.
either way. The C6 Z is a VERY special car. And In my opinion the last of its kind.
What I mean is has an analog feel to it, and it’s definitely not an easy car to drive; in stock form it will walk a 600 cc crotch rocket. And the difficulty becomes more and more apparent especially in upgraded form. It can even get scary to drive at times.
plain an simple .. its a drivers car with A LOT of personality. Not some point, click, and mash the throttle lack luster bland automobile that inspires a false sense of driving skill because the computer is so intrusive that it corrects the slightest mistake.
Te C6 Z06 feels like a 70’s muscle car, something unforgiving that you should be VERY afraid of. A cammed Z is a car you no longer lose control of in st or 2nd; it becomes a car that has the potential to get out of hand in third gear going straight.
The scariest part about the car is the power band. I have had my car stick 3000, 4000, 5000, 6000 and breaks loose at 6500 rpms. If you’re not on the right shoes, that could be disastrous! 3rd spans well into triple digit territory. And 6500 rpm is roughly estimated 110 mph +.
There aren’t many cars out there that FEEL the way this does. Not saying they aren’t fast, just saying that they lack personality.
From my experience a 600+ whp Z is capable of smoking an 800whp just about anything else
i have put enough in mine that I could have at one point bought 2 lol.
either way. The C6 Z is a VERY special car. And In my opinion the last of its kind.
What I mean is has an analog feel to it, and it’s definitely not an easy car to drive; in stock form it will walk a 600 cc crotch rocket. And the difficulty becomes more and more apparent especially in upgraded form. It can even get scary to drive at times.
plain an simple .. its a drivers car with A LOT of personality. Not some point, click, and mash the throttle lack luster bland automobile that inspires a false sense of driving skill because the computer is so intrusive that it corrects the slightest mistake.
Te C6 Z06 feels like a 70’s muscle car, something unforgiving that you should be VERY afraid of. A cammed Z is a car you no longer lose control of in st or 2nd; it becomes a car that has the potential to get out of hand in third gear going straight.
The scariest part about the car is the power band. I have had my car stick 3000, 4000, 5000, 6000 and breaks loose at 6500 rpms. If you’re not on the right shoes, that could be disastrous! 3rd spans well into triple digit territory. And 6500 rpm is roughly estimated 110 mph +.
There aren’t many cars out there that FEEL the way this does. Not saying they aren’t fast, just saying that they lack personality.
From my experience a 600+ whp Z is capable of smoking an 800whp just about anything else
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In reference to the titanium issue being directly related to modded track cars...I once thought the same and wish this were true. I picked up a bone-stock 17K mile 2006 from an old man to try and avoid this problem altogether, and the rod coating was already long gone with titanium shavings all throughout the oil. I now have an awesome forged engine.
Nevertheless, these cars are addicting, and I knew the risk when I bought my now-third one. There's something about them that no other car can match which is why we deal with this crap.
Nevertheless, these cars are addicting, and I knew the risk when I bought my now-third one. There's something about them that no other car can match which is why we deal with this crap.
Sure, people say it will run down to 1200rpm and gradually accelerate back up to speed, but I suspect this may introduce some weird harmonics into the engine. Its just not mechanically kind, and its not a diesel. Its a big, 7k rpm engine.
Further, perhaps even exacerbated by low rpm lubrication shortcomings for such loads...maybe.
Anyway, musing here...
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about to pick her up, i made sure to check oil pressure as that can indicate some clearance issues from the Ti or other trash. at 150-160* it was 42-44psi with 5w30 at the stock 650rpm idle. seemed good to me. thanks for all the kind words. will be doing a blackstone analysis when she gets back tomorrow
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Burning Brakes
congrats on "new to you" c6z, these cars are really special and are certainly a drivers car. as mentioned previously the feel of the car is like something from the late 60's - early 70's time period. my first vette was a 69 427/4spd and the c6z delivers the same feel with improvements. i might just be buried in mine......
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about to pick her up, i made sure to check oil pressure as that can indicate some clearance issues from the Ti or other trash. at 150-160* it was 42-44psi with 5w30 at the stock 650rpm idle. seemed good to me. thanks for all the kind words. will be doing a blackstone analysis when she gets back tomorrow
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I agree...and suspect that it may have something to do with the ease with which the engine can be run at load at very low rpm, quasi-lugged in 6th gear at highway speeds, with the ebb and flow of traffic.
Sure, people say it will run down to 1200rpm and gradually accelerate back up to speed, but I suspect this may introduce some weird harmonics into the engine. Its just not mechanically kind, and its not a diesel. Its a big, 7k rpm engine.
Further, perhaps even exacerbated by low rpm lubrication shortcomings for such loads...maybe.
Anyway, musing here...
Sure, people say it will run down to 1200rpm and gradually accelerate back up to speed, but I suspect this may introduce some weird harmonics into the engine. Its just not mechanically kind, and its not a diesel. Its a big, 7k rpm engine.
Further, perhaps even exacerbated by low rpm lubrication shortcomings for such loads...maybe.
Anyway, musing here...
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