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Old 01-05-2023, 10:38 PM
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I’m interested in adding power to my stock z06. I figure 700 RWHP is a good goal. Can I get there without a turbo or supercharger? I want to run pump gas and not use nitrous or meth. Is this possible on the stock block? Or do I need to look at a power adder?
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Adjust that to 600rwhp and you can do it with all the basic parts and have a great driving fast as hell car.

heads, cam, headers, exhaust, intake, cai, tb
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Originally Posted by parish8
Adjust that to 600rwhp and you can do it with all the basic parts and have a great driving fast as hell car.

heads, cam, headers, exhaust, intake, cai, tb
For the money it costs do the above mods, do you think you could get to 700 whp with a blower with some beefed up internals?
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For the money it costs do the above mods, do you think you could get to 700 whp with a blower with some beefed up internals?
You could probably forge the bottom bottom add supercharger and obtain that easily. There's HCI only making 650rwp . Not impossible. Try YouTube , RPM Stage 5 will give you an idea of what a boost does on a HCI Z06....Lot of drivetrain mods to handle it. Stock clutch doesn't like 600. You're gonna hear folks telling you 550whp is enough. What's your plans with 700whp. A 600whp can run high 9s.
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Youtube Race Proven Motorsports, i have there full Stage 4 package on 91 pump and dynod 624whp! Going for e85 this weekend hoping to dyno 640whp!
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Centri supercharger for 700RWHP on pump gas. You will see a lot of Forum members claiming this works on a a stock motor, not denying it, although if I went that route I would change all the internals and sleeves. The LS7 motor/block was not ever intended to be supercharged, it was designed strictly as a NA motor, IMO. Of course not withstanding the Callaway supercharged LS7, sanctioned by Chevrolet, which is not 700RWHP.

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Originally Posted by Noblebro175
You could probably forge the bottom bottom add supercharger and obtain that easily. There's HCI only making 650rwp . Not impossible. Try YouTube , RPM Stage 5 will give you an idea of what a boost does on a HCI Z06....Lot of drivetrain mods to handle it. Stock clutch doesn't like 600. You're gonna hear folks telling you 550whp is enough. What's your plans with 700whp. A 600whp can run high 9s.
i had highly modded 09' gt500 making 700whp. i figure, why not shoot for a similar number for the kind of money it costs to do heads, cam, full exhaust, tb, cai, etc... although, i do like the idea of a na motor which is part of the reason i bought this c6z.
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Originally Posted by Noblebro175
You could probably forge the bottom bottom add supercharger and obtain that easily. There's HCI only making 650rwp . Not impossible. Try YouTube , RPM Stage 5 will give you an idea of what a boost does on a HCI Z06....Lot of drivetrain mods to handle it. Stock clutch doesn't like 600. You're gonna hear folks telling you 550whp is enough. What's your plans with 700whp. A 600whp can run high 9s.
i'm not interested in taking the car to the drag strip. does the stock clutch do fine at 600whp if you aren't doing a bunch of hard launches?
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Originally Posted by Armando Estrada
Youtube Race Proven Motorsports, i have there full Stage 4 package on 91 pump and dynod 624whp! Going for e85 this weekend hoping to dyno 640whp!
sweet. nice numbers!
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Originally Posted by PSYKED
i'm not interested in taking the car to the drag strip. does the stock clutch do fine at 600whp if you aren't doing a bunch of hard launches?
No - it flexes and slips doing highway rolls

As for 700whp n/a … if you don’t want it driveable on the street sure you can. But it’s race only at that point. So…I’d say no that goal is not possible.
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Is E85 not available in your area?
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Is E85 not available in your area?
e85 is available here. i guess i don't know enough about it. i guess the car can run either 93 octane or the e85? i've kinda thought maybe i'd get stuck out somewhere and couldn't get e85 and couldn't use regular gas
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Originally Posted by Apocolipse
No - it flexes and slips doing highway rolls

As for 700whp n/a … if you don’t want it driveable on the street sure you can. But it’s race only at that point. So…I’d say no that goal is not possible.
i have heard that about 600whp is about all you need for the street in this vette. i did run 700whp in the gt500 without any issues...very streetable in my opinion. i did have to replace the clutch after about 15000 miles though.
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~ 700rwhp NA is possible, but check out this thread to get an idea what is involved. You may not want to go thru all this work to get it. You can get a ~600rwhp build with all the engine/drive train parts you need for road racing for $20-25K. 700? add another ?$15K if you get it right the first time. For road courses you will also need to deal with the brakes and then there is always five-figure suspension work if you are looking for quickest laps.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...fnbadaz06.html
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Originally Posted by PSYKED
i have heard that about 600whp is about all you need for the street in this vette. i did run 700whp in the gt500 without any issues...very streetable in my opinion. i did have to replace the clutch after about 15000 miles though.
700 in a mustang is like 500 in a vette - also you can not compare boosted vs n/a at those power levels - totally different animals.

And to be honest I went from 600whp to 525whp and still can’t be touched on the streets other than by insane setups. These cars are so light and put power down perfect.
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800hp is possible with a LS7 NA. one currently for sale. Search for GapGod on YouTube. There's the orange C6Z06 700whp racing Plaids,etc. The car will be a one trick pony and you'll have to build the driveline to hold . I too, wantedassive power. While I haven't purchased a Vette yet, I've spent enough time reading thru the forum here. 550-600whp is the sweet spot. Even 525+ . I don't mind a little surge but don't want "race car" so or to drop serious coin on a car I can't enjoy. I started asking Google " 600whp C6z06 streetable" ,etc,etc..then sifting through threads going back to 2006 lol. Also, these cars require alot of driving mod. Look at the "fast times". Guys running 10s and 11s in stock form and guys running 12s cammed ,etc. I think if I was gonna use boost, I'd go with the LS3 Grand Sport.
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Originally Posted by Apocolipse
700 in a mustang is like 500 in a vette - also you can not compare boosted vs n/a at those power levels - totally different animals.

And to be honest I went from 600whp to 525whp and still can’t be touched on the streets other than by insane setups. These cars are so light and put power down perfect.
What Apocolipse said , plus the way they are geared they are hard to beat as a DD 90% of the cars on the road cant touch them.
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Frankenstein F710 heads, a nasty cam, big exhaust and a hi-ram will get you north of 700 RWHP, NA. I dont recommend doing it on a stock bottom end. unless you love busting ring lands. Like everyone else said above, you will have to spend a lot on supporting mods. 600-630 RWHP on these cars is perfect for the street. Mine was at 600 RWHP with the stock intake, injectors and throttle body. I had a blast in it. It wasnt the fastest on the road, but also wasnt the slowest either. @ a few TX2K's I was batting above my field and winning. I was racing the 800-1000 RWHP cars and cleaning house, in my daily driver.
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e85 is available here. i guess i don't know enough about it. i guess the car can run either 93 octane or the e85? i've kinda thought maybe i'd get stuck out somewhere and couldn't get e85 and couldn't use regular gas
93 octane is, well, 93. E85 is 100-105 octane dependent on actual ethanol content and denaturant quality. Either way it's higher octane and allows for more timing (there are several other benefits). A flex fuel sensor will allow you to run 93 in the event that E85 is not available.
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700 at the tire is right at 800 hp at the flywheel if we're using 13% for parasitic loss and it's 825-hp (flywheel) if were using 15% for the loss factor.

Getting a legit 800-825-hp out of an OE block and doing reliably with some just a bare necessity of street drivability?
Pray.

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