E85 fuel
09-08-2018, 04:42 PM
#2
Sure you can, I mean don’t just go fill up with E85, you need to change some things first. Lots of pro’s.....more power(especially with boost) it’s cooler, less chance detonation, smells good......the list goes on. Cons are really just the initial cost and work to switch over and if it’s readily available in your location. Not sure if many people run E85 on a relatively stock set up though. Usually guys running E have done a fair amount of mods already.
09-08-2018, 04:49 PM
#3
I'm at 510 whp currently. Adding ported intake and 102 throttle body in next two weeks. I should be at about 550 after that. What are the setup costs including labor and what would be the hp increase with a new tune? Thanks
09-08-2018, 06:11 PM
#6
Le Mans Master
09-08-2018, 06:31 PM
#8
Those questions are going to be hard to answer man, depends on how serious you want to go with the fuel system. Here’s a link to fore innovation site.
http://www.foreinnovations.com/category_s/491.htm
that doesn’t include injectors or labor if your not doing the work yourself. Injectors aren’t cheap, especially not for top of line one, injector dynamic 1300’s are $1700-1800+, going bigger than that you’ll pay more. I think the 1050x are around $1000. Fuel systems can cost serious money and it’s not really an area to go “budget on” not sure what you can get away with on a lower HP N/A set up, are your heads milled? If so how much? I’m doing my fuel system upgrade now but all my experience is with F/I and it’s not much besides sourcing all the parts needed.
http://www.foreinnovations.com/category_s/491.htm
that doesn’t include injectors or labor if your not doing the work yourself. Injectors aren’t cheap, especially not for top of line one, injector dynamic 1300’s are $1700-1800+, going bigger than that you’ll pay more. I think the 1050x are around $1000. Fuel systems can cost serious money and it’s not really an area to go “budget on” not sure what you can get away with on a lower HP N/A set up, are your heads milled? If so how much? I’m doing my fuel system upgrade now but all my experience is with F/I and it’s not much besides sourcing all the parts needed.
09-08-2018, 06:48 PM
#9
Le Mans Master
Good questions, my fuel pump cost me $100, injectors are 80 lb cost my $250 used and sensor and line were roughly $90. The tuning was $150 as I used a street tune. I have no definitive before and after dyno numbers as we did a street tune. My tuner says these will net 15 ish wheel horse on a N/A set up all day.
09-08-2018, 07:12 PM
#11
Good questions, my fuel pump cost me $100, injectors are 80 lb cost my $250 used and sensor and line were roughly $90. The tuning was $150 as I used a street tune. I have no definitive before and after dyno numbers as we did a street tune. My tuner says these will net 15 ish wheel horse on a N/A set up all day.
09-08-2018, 07:27 PM
#12
Le Mans Master
09-09-2018, 09:24 AM
#13
Le Mans Master
The amount of power you'll make really depends on how timing limited you are on your current fuel. If you were able to maximize timing, you'll see 5-10whp gains and likely 8-12wtq gains from ~4000-your redline. E85 burns cleaner/cooler, less prone to detonation, less mpg per tank but likely more mpg per cost of your current fuel, smells better, cheaper at fill up, you get to say you run e85.
09-09-2018, 02:30 PM
#15
The amount of power you'll make really depends on how timing limited you are on your current fuel. If you were able to maximize timing, you'll see 5-10whp gains and likely 8-12wtq gains from ~4000-your redline. E85 burns cleaner/cooler, less prone to detonation, less mpg per tank but likely more mpg per cost of your current fuel, smells better, cheaper at fill up, you get to say you run e85.
That made me laugh. Thanks man.
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09-09-2018, 03:14 PM
#16
Burning Brakes
Hello and good question,
E85 will give you about 8% horsepower increase with naturally aspirated and about 15% if your engine is blown. So a 500HP naturally aspirated on E 85 should be about 540HP and 600HP blown on E85 with be about 690HP.
If you have other HP mods then plan on larger injectors, if you have no HP mods then your stock injectors will work (you ill be in the upper range of their duty cycle.)
Even on hot days the cooling effects of E85 will push engine heat out of the exhaust and keep your horsepower levels up.
In my opinion it's one of the best bang for the buck mods available.
Douglas in Green Bay
E85 will give you about 8% horsepower increase with naturally aspirated and about 15% if your engine is blown. So a 500HP naturally aspirated on E 85 should be about 540HP and 600HP blown on E85 with be about 690HP.
If you have other HP mods then plan on larger injectors, if you have no HP mods then your stock injectors will work (you ill be in the upper range of their duty cycle.)
Even on hot days the cooling effects of E85 will push engine heat out of the exhaust and keep your horsepower levels up.
In my opinion it's one of the best bang for the buck mods available.
Douglas in Green Bay
09-10-2018, 10:21 AM
#18
Drifting
Running E85 will turn your fuel mileage into that of a big-block with a 4:11 rear end, (20% to 30% increase in fuel consumption.) And I'm sure it doesn't do anything for your resale value, either; I personally wouldn't even consider a car that was converted to E85. Ethanol is hygroscopic meaning that it reduces the amount of time it can sit in storage, which is great for a car like a Corvette that I don't daily drive.
https://fuelandfriction.com/weekend-...less-you-know/
https://fuelandfriction.com/weekend-...less-you-know/
09-10-2018, 12:06 PM
#20
Running E85 will turn your fuel mileage into that of a big-block with a 4:11 rear end, (20% to 30% increase in fuel consumption.) And I'm sure it doesn't do anything for your resale value, either; I personally wouldn't even consider a car that was converted to E85. Ethanol is hygroscopic meaning that it reduces the amount of time it can sit in storage, which is great for a car like a Corvette that I don't daily drive.
https://fuelandfriction.com/weekend-...less-you-know/
https://fuelandfriction.com/weekend-...less-you-know/
