TXGS507

I agree... Other than that funky stocking cap he wears when its cold out..


stand up, hook up, shuffle to the door......

MTPZ06

Damn good gains Matt.

SPDKLZ1

I'm curious too. I made 543/487 after a full heads/cam build. Install and tune were done at DRM. I thought I'd make a bit more but I don't think a lot of time went into tuning. It runs great tho. I had Pat G spec me a cam with 10 degrees more overlap than my current one that is a bit more aggressive than the TSP 2.2. I would like to go bigger but after seeing this thread I'm throwing around the idea of having it retuned by someone known for spending some quality time on it such as Carlos. Unfortunately I'm way up north on the ND/MN border.

By the way, nice power gains and sweet looking ride!

My current mods:

Callaway Honker
ported tb and MSD by Tony Mamo
AHP ported heads, no mill, 91 octane
BTR 2 - 230/246 .644/.630 115+4
ARH 2" headers

lamboworld

I will give you my thoughts on this. You are going to get a lot of variance among dyno numbers and a tune is not going to make that much difference in WOT whp. A tuner might find +/- 5 or 10 whp but that is about it. I suspect that if you put this car on a different dynojet then the results are going to be different.

I have am running almost the exact same setup as OP and I put down 563/502. My cam has the exact same overlap as the OP and a Mamo ported MSD.

To give you another example. I used another tuner a few years ago and my setup at that time had a cam with an overlap of 8 and the stock Intake and I made 580/510 on their dynojet. Clearly, this should not be the case. You have to take dyno numbers with a grain of salt.

Lets see what the OP does at WGF. He should run around 157 or 158 with his setup.

Beach Bum

Congrats on the new found power OH8Z06 !! Looks like money well spent.

Can I ask, who was your first tuner ? (PM if you like)

To those contemplating E85.... I picked up 5 rwhp on a 12-1 cr motor going from 93 to E85.

Strangely enough, it picked up 1.5 mph in the 1/8th mile.... but not really any ET. Weird stuff.

I do plan on bumping compression to over 13-1 next time I tear it apart.

0Myhardtop

We can try to re-tune it. I offer remote tuning options if you have the HP Tuner software.

I love doing this: use the SAME dyno (preferably similar weather conditions) as before so we can justify any possible gains.

From the outside, looking at your mods, the 2" headers are too big, but we can work with it.

Feel free to PM me, if we move forward, go to same dyno, strap it down, make a couple of passes, I will then re-tune and see what happens.

Thanks,
Carlos

0Myhardtop

LOL - oh man...you're going way back. Those were the days

I'm still the same Carlos, but a little more subtle these days.

Thanks,
Carlos

Unreal

Ahaha.

Tuning WOT is easy. Any trained monkey can get power out of a car. It is the idle, part throttle, cold starts, warm starts, etc that you need time and skill to tune. If you gain 20+rwhp from a tune, you either had a complete retard before, or significantly lowered the safety margin from before.

Unreal

Carlos

I'm in Fort Worth next month. We should meet up and grab a beer. That goes for any Texas people.

FSTFRC

Let us know when you are in town!

FSTFRC

I believe Matt will do that 158 - 160 mph.

Unreal

May 7-11. Fort Worth Area

TXGS507

Always one ney sayer in the crowd... It was just a matter of time. Its an "opinion" and you are surely entitled. We will indeed see what I do at the event and yes that is what matters.

Most of the comments in the thread are positive and not the "smoke and mirrors" numbers that you are indirectly or directly stating.

Most all of these individuals who have commented know these cars and know what it takes combination wise, tune wise to make these cars fast, safe.

To the guy contemplating using Carlos "remotely"... I'll guarantee 10+ HP over what you are making now if you allow Carlos to work his magic.. IF it doesn't I'll PP you $50!!!

Lambo... Are you willing to shoot the guy $50 if he makes 10+ over what he is making now? I'll bet not... These were NOT Dyno "tricks"... sure their are variables. weather,temp,humidity, deflating tires, etc.. I am willing to put my money where my mouth is.

SPDKLZ1... PM me for Carlos' cell number... You won't be disappointed.

TXGS507

PM sent...

I have seen your car run at Ennis.... Your'e running a 4L80E in your C6Z yes?

TXGS507

One of the first things out of Carlos' mouth.... You want an "all out" tune or conservative. safe... I went with the latter and STILL made that power! I am confident that with some better injectors (FAST 85's) Carlos can sqqqueeeze a little more out of her.

TXGS507

Fire us a PM when youre in town... Carlos can buy the beers

TXGS507

Damn Joe... I was thinking 161-162

lamboworld

I don't doubt your results, but I assure you that one dyno to another dyno can have widely different results. I never said that your results were bogus or that any trickery took place because I don't think that is the case.

I am sure that if you come from a shitty tooner to a good tuner than it may be possible to get an increase of more than 10whp.

You should know by now that you cannot compare from one dyno to another one because there are just too many variables to take into account. There is a dynojet where I live that is known to be high and I can go there tomorrow and show you a dyno sheet with 30 more whp. What is the point though.

Your whp seem about right and your wtq is most likely an anomaly.

Although it really doesn't matter because that wtq isn't going to make you go any faster. I have a BMW that puts down almost 600wtq and my Z06 will smoke it, so it is really a moot point.

FSTFRC

That's exact same way my car has been tuned by Carlos for the last six years in its various stages and has run well for what it is at the 1/2 mile

ramairws6

Rippie's dyno is stingy by at least 15/15 dynojet to dynojet. Tell me how I know. Been going up there for over 15 years not too mention other shops. His dyno does not give anyone a warm and fuzzy feeling. Like stated, it is just a tool take it with a grain of salt. By the way, you have a very clean car and I thought it seemed to run pretty strong!