Tennispro1986

Yes I know, it's been answered, but couldn't find any solid answers for my specific question.

I am at 560 whp, you know the intake headers and cam setup. I will never be drag racing the car, so that is completely out of the equation. My car is simply a fun street car.

I am looking to get rid of the junk bridgestones on the car and either replace with Michelin Pilot Super Sports or do a drag radial in the rear and the super sports up front. I would rather do the MPSS all around but if at 560 whp I'm not gonna be able ot hook at all with the MPSS then obviously I would go with the DR in the rear.

So will the MPSS hook from like a 20-30 roll once heated up, or at my power level is drag radials the only way to go. Basically I don't want to order the MPSS and not be able to hook at all from rolls and what not.

TXGS507

I too am at 560 ish to the tire. I went from the Sport Cups to the Nitto NT05R's... Love em..! Ran them at a 1/2 mi RR event back in Nov and they hooked nicely. Like you, I don't drag race my car.. Mostly a weekend cruiser, occasional run in Mexico. The NT05R's suit me just fine.

Tennispro1986

What tire are you running in the front?

Chiselchst

Slightly less than you at 537whp (GS, not a Z), I couldn't get any Michelin to hold in 1st, or even 2nd a lot of the time. I've had new run flats, non, and the stock GY's (junk). I

I switched to Toyo R888's on the rear, and they're great. Dead hook from a roll, and they handle fantastic, too. From what I've read, they do better on a road course over the Nitto NT05R too, not getting oily like the Nitto's.

I still have the MSSP's on the front, and I'm actually ordering a pair of Toyo's for the front today. No experience on wear yet, but we'll see...

FWIW, many have raved about the newer R888R's - stating their better than the R888 (less road noise, and better handling).

My opinion, worth what you paid for it...

Piston_Head

I'm running MPSS's with just over 570 to the wheels. Great overall tire, but definitely no traction from a dig. Still spinning from a roll.

Mine are a couple years old now, so I'm sure they are starting to harden.

I decided to go with a second set of wheels for 1/4's, 1/2's and goofing around and just keep the MPSS's for daily duty.

I was on the fence between the NT05R's, Hoosiers and ET Street R's and decided to give the ET Streets a try.

2 sets isn't ideal, but I decided it was the way to go. Just waiting for the snow to leave and I'll be able to try them out.

Later,
Brad

NotreOkc

I have the MPSS on my ZR1 and as long as it is not too cold outside and the tires are warm they will always hook from a 20-30 mph roll. Fantastic tire.

LS1Steve

If your priority objective is off-the-line traction, get the DR's in back. MPSS are an incredible all-around tire, but you should expect them to spin a bit at that power. I can break mine loose easily at 500 RWHP, and sometimes wish I had a bit more traction at the lights.

With that said, I don't think I will personally sacrifice the overall handling of MPSS at all corners for a bit more straight line traction with DR rears. I rely on my car to be sticky on hard cornering often enough where I prefer having the confidence and predictability that the MPSS gives me over a DR. Also, consider that if its just a fun weekend car (as mine is), a little spin is actually fun! Not to mention less wear/tear on the drivetrain to allow a bit of spin versus a hard hook. MPSS is also incredibly budget friendly, as a kicker.

MTPZ06

Chiselchst

Man, I'm in the minority here...
Just ordered the R888R's for my front..as the car under-steers too much with the MSPP's, so we'll if there's a difference.

NotreOkc

Being in the minority is not a bad thing, get your R888R's on there and come back and report what you find. Your likes and dislikes. As many have said the MPSS is a great tire but it is not perfect by any means.
Your findings just may influence a future buyers choice! Good luck.

AzDave47

As has been said the PSS is a great street tire and gets very good treadwear if a street alignment is put on the car.It will not hook from a dig, but in 90* weather mine (600 rwhp) hooked in 2nd at 40 MPH.

The R888s I have are a street legal track tire and have much more grip than the PSS. The R888Rs are likely even more so (I'll soon buy R888Rs for the rear). They will grip once warm at least from a roll if not a dig. They will likely get less than 10K miles tread wear. Replacing the front PSS with R888Rs to match the rears will definitely reduce the understeer you are getting, street tire front, track tire rear = Understeer.

If you go DRs, do the NT05R at your power. The MT ET ss get squirrelly at about 140 and I'd not want to run them full out in 5th gear.

Piston_Head

Might be interesting. I’m over the 140 mark in the 1/2 mile. Hopefully the MT ET R’s aren’t to bad on the big end.

Later,
Brad

AzDave47

I was 160 in the half mile, which is why I won't run them in a mile or the upcoming Mojave Magnum 1 1/2 mile. I just ordered R888Rs for that event.

The NT 05Rs will grip fine at your power or mine.

Tennispro1986

Thanks for all the replies. Sound like a drag radial is the way to go. I really wanted to stay away from a drag radial as I don't want any problems with my drive train. For those that are running drag radials, have you had any drivetrain related problems from them hooking up too hard?

NemeZ

LV Vette

Another similar tire situation. I have a stock 2006 Z, and the tires on it are Michelin Pilot Sports RF, which are 6 years old. Car only has 13,700 miles, so the tread is great, but the tires are hard as bricks, and I can’t get much traction in 1st, 2nd or 3rd gear at full throttle. My driving is just around town and no track racing, but I want better traction and ride quality. I’m thinking of Michelin Pilot Sport 2’s or Pilot Super Sports, in non run flats. Which of these will give me better traction? Any other suggestions would also be appreciated.

Clayton

ps: I’m not too worried about tread life, as I don’t put a lot of miles on it.

redbird555

TXGS507

MP SS...

TXGS507

NT05R's are perfect for RR... Also decent on the highway.

WA 2 FST

Here is a link to a thread I started, as it relates to my experiences recently (and I have two 700hp vehicles... one runs R888Rs, the other NT05Rs).

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...t-car-zr1.html

Personally, I would not run the ET Street DRs, _unless_ I was drag racing at the strip. Too much sidewall flex for _me_, driving the car enthusiastically on the street/country roads.

The NT05R is a great DR. It doesn't offer the Nth degree of hook that the ET Street does, but it also has much less compromise for daily fun on the street. I have run these exclusively on my TT C5Z, and they are outstanding tires. No issues on the streets/highways for me, and hook very well...2nd gear roll in my car, with the power it has.

I decided to try the R888R on my ZR1 because, well, it isn't a drag car...certainly wasn't designed to be, and I was hoping they would hook well in a power-on, acceleration romp, but also provide the ability to make this car handle/brake like it was designed to. For me, these tires have nailed it. Granted, ive only got about 500 miles on them, but they seem perfect for what I desire/need out of the car.