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Old 04-29-2015, 03:38 PM
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Anyone run nitto on the back and factory tire on the front--any driving problems? Thx
Old 04-29-2015, 03:50 PM
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Should not have any issues as long as the tire size is correct. I ran NT05s for about a year and upgraded to R888. While NT05 is a lot nicer than the stock runcraps, I'd say they are still not even half as nice as the 8s
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If you only use 70-80% of the handling capability of the car (a high level for street driving) then they should be OK. Use caution in rain storms. If you are ***** to the wall street driver or consider road circuit type driving then the mix/match is not a good thing.

I agree with the Ruski Driver re NT-05's vs R888's, which are street legal track tires. whereas the NT-05's are trackable street tires. The M PSS have about 0.1 G more grip than the NT-05's and the tread will last 2-3X longer.
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Originally Posted by AzDave47
If you only use 70-80% of the handling capability of the car (a high level for street driving) then they should be OK. Use caution in rain storms. If you are ***** to the wall street driver or consider road circuit type driving then the mix/match is not a good thing.

I agree with the Ruski Driver re NT-05's vs R888's, which are street legal track tires. whereas the NT-05's are trackable street tires. The M PSS have about 0.1 G more grip than the NT-05's and the tread will last 2-3X longer.
Sort of depends on how old the stock front tires are. EMTs have more grip than NT05s especially on a track where you can get them hot. The NT05s get greasy very quickly when pushed hard for 15 to 20 minutes. I ran 10 track days with EMTs followed by 26 track days with NT05s. If you are street driving there shouldn't be a problem but when you start pushing things you always want the tire with the best grip in the rear.

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I have stock tires up front and NT05R's in the back. No issues here.
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Originally Posted by SlowVet05
I have stock tires up front and NT05R's in the back. No issues here.
How much of a handling sacrifice? As compared to running a non drag radial...

Contemplating between the R888 and the NT05R on the rear, with PSS fronts.
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How much of a handling sacrifice? As compared to running a non drag radial...

Contemplating between the R888 and the NT05R on the rear, with PSS fronts.
I switched from the stock runflats to the NT05R's. I did notice less stability around turns but I expected that going to a DR. They also don't feel as stable at high speeds but the straight line traction is amazing in my opinion. I've heard the R888's are pretty good as well. I doubt the straight line traction is going to be equal but I would think they would be much more stable in turns as I believe they're a road race tire.
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My factory's have the NT05R's on the back..... NOT the regular NT05's. It's a drag radial, it's meant to go straight. At 20psi going 170+ it's a little unstable, but nothing uncontrollable or scary in any way shape or form... I like em and it's the ONLY 19in tire that lets my car put some power down. I still spin with em, but it's night and day difference from my previous 345's I had on the rear. My old 345's wouldn't hold
Power at all, but they did well threw corners.... Until I push the pedal down too get going. There's a sacrifice in everything. Are you hitting corners hard all the time, or are you going straight mainly?
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Only 20psi? So in order to gain that traction advantage, the tire pressure has to be dropped by 30%! No wonder there are stability issues at high speed....

What if you run the 30psi or so, would it then be pretty solid? Realizing it wouldn't be ideal for drag strip runs, but is the drop off linear, or is it notable? Have you tried it?
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Originally Posted by edmundu
Only 20psi? So in order to gain that traction advantage, the tire pressure has to be dropped by 30%! No wonder there are stability issues at high speed....

What if you run the 30psi or so, would it then be pretty solid? Realizing it wouldn't be ideal for drag strip runs, but is the drop off linear, or is it notable? Have you tried it?
That was for an race event. That's nothing different than any other tire (Drag Radial) that's done at an event. At standard pressures with the tire warm, I could/can WOT shift to where before, I couldn't do it going into 3rd without blowing the tires off, on a good surface. At normal pressures they drive like normal tires, just go slow in the rain and keep all your driving aids on... If you get caught in a downpour
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Originally Posted by jnv255
That was for an race event. That's nothing different than any other tire (Drag Radial) that's done at an event. At standard pressures with the tire warm, I could/can WOT shift to where before, I couldn't do it going into 3rd without blowing the tires off, on a good surface. At normal pressures they drive like normal tires, just go slow in the rain and keep all your driving aids on... If you get caught in a downpour
I've got PSS, and they simply do NOT hold below 65-70 mph, even after being warmed up! I am on the fence as to whether to go for the NT05R, or the R888. I have heard of many LS based cars able to hook with both, but since the Toyo is meant to corner, that is where I'm leaning.

I don't need 1st gr to hook, I really only need to be able to go from a 40+ roll in 2nd, and stay hooked!

OP, I apologize for the partial thread hijack... But this might be of value to you as well if your debating straightline vs cornering traction tradeoffs.
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Originally Posted by edmundu
I don't need 1st gr to hook, I really only need to be able to go from a 40+ roll in 2nd, and stay hooked!
I'm on Gen II runcraps, no traction through second. I need to be able to dead hook a 40+ MPH punch. I'm leaning towards NT05R for the rear only.

OP, great question. Wish I had some insight.
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Have you already purchased the NT-05s? If not, then you may want to consider some other choices. I had a set of NT-05s on my car, and was very disappointed with the overall grip level. It was very easy to lose the rear end with any heavy throttle input. I will never buy them again. By comparison, Bridgestone RE-11s (also a "200" treadwear tire) have much better grip.
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Originally Posted by nuclearnick
Have you already purchased the NT-05s? If not, then you may want to consider some other choices. I had a set of NT-05s on my car, and was very disappointed with the overall grip level. It was very easy to lose the rear end with any heavy throttle input. I will never buy them again. By comparison, Bridgestone RE-11s (also a "200" treadwear tire) have much better grip.
Are you referring to NT05 or NT05R?
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I had NT05R's in my Heads/cam/intake SS Camaro and they hooked great. They do turn into ice skates in rain but with nannies on and sensible driving your fine. I just ordered a set for the Z and should have em installed Monday. I will chime in with how they do on a heads/cam Z. Right now I can break em loose doing 70-80 with Invos and absolutely no thread left.

How are you guys getting the cars aligned for thread wear? Stock Z or Grand Sport?
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Originally Posted by CyberZ
I had NT05R's in my Heads/cam/intake SS Camaro and they hooked great. They do turn into ice skates in rain but with nannies on and sensible driving your fine. I just ordered a set for the Z and should have em installed Monday. I will chime in with how they do on a heads/cam Z. Right now I can break em loose doing 70-80 with Invos and absolutely no thread left.

How are you guys getting the cars aligned for thread wear? Stock Z or Grand Sport?
Use performance street in the attached link for improved tread wear. Invos are not traction tires by the way.

http://www.pfadtracing.com/blog/wp-c...-9.12.2011.pdf
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I have Bridgestone RE-11's on the rear. I haven't had them long and it's hard to compare an old NT05(not the R) to a new RE-11. I never had a problem in blowing the rears with the NTO5's, even in stock form. I have General UHP's on the front.
I also have a set of NTO5R's mounted on another set of stock rims. For keeping the stock look they do pretty good. You're not going to come out of the hole with a lot of RPM's, but there is no wheel hop in 2nd and they will also hold my car in 2nd. I only did a little fish tailing in 2nd on one run....the rest were straight.
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Josh B: I am referring to the NT-05 tires, not the "R" compound.
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Originally Posted by nuclearnick
Josh B: I am referring to the NT-05 tires, not the "R" compound.
Ah, ok. I had the NT05 (non R) on a coyote swapped Mustang and was not impressed.

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