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Old 02-02-2014, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SilveradoSS500
I'm pretty sure my car with the stock cam makes the same trq numbers....
Weak sauce
I live in your area, If you have an all motor Z I would love to run you in my weak sauce k501 car.
Old 02-02-2014, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Torqer
I live in your area, If you have an all motor Z I would love to run you in my weak sauce k501 car.
Lol as you wish!

Are you at stock weight? If so, go ahead and start crying lol...
Old 02-02-2014, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SilveradoSS500
Lol as you wish!

Are you at stock weight? If so, go ahead and start crying lol...
Like I said if you have an ALL MOTOR Z lets do it....Nothing to worry about here with a weak sauce 501 cam.
Old 02-02-2014, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Torqer
I live in your area, If you have an all motor Z I would love to run you in my weak sauce k501 car.
The k501 is not a weak sauce cam. I run a Torquer 116. That is even weaker than the K501 and is still a monster. I know you were referring to the poster above and not calling it weak yourself, my reply was also geared at him or her.
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Originally Posted by forg0tmypen
The k501 is not a weak sauce cam. I run a Torquer 116. That is even weaker than the K501 and is still a monster. I know you were referring to the poster above and not calling it weak yourself, my reply was also geared at him or her.
My weak sauce love....lol

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Did the owner elect to replace the guides as well? I would assume it was at least considered since heads were out and valves replaced? I only ask because I am curious of a price for this setup installed.
Old 02-02-2014, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ChevyCobb
Did the owner elect to replace the guides as well? I would assume it was at least considered since heads were out and valves replaced? I only ask because I am curious of a price for this setup installed.
I am pretty sure the OP does not answer to this thread or PM's.
Old 02-03-2014, 04:18 PM
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Since the OP is pretty clear that he isn't going to respond to this thread, I would like to continue the discussion. Also, this isn't directed at him nor is it meant to be a criticism. He is intending to add headers to get back the "Lost low end torque" he sees with this cam. I am not sure what he is seeing from the dyno. I compared the torque readings from the stock cam with the STD graph on the K501 cam since they are the same format. At 2100 rpm they are dead even at 360 lb ft. At 2500 rpm they are still dead even at 380 lb ft. At 3000 rpm, the stock cam only pulls 5 more at 395 ft lbs. Hardly noticeable on the graph and never noticeable in the car. At 3500 rpm, the K501 seems to be ahead by about 2 or so with 410. This is at the upper limit of what I would consider low end torque. By 4000 rpm, which I consider the mid range, the K 501 is killing the stock cam by 20 lb ft. That is quite a lot. It gets stronger, of course, as the rpm goes up. To me, according to this dyno test, the K501 kills it on the top end and doesn't lose ANYTHING on the bottom. My guess is that with a set of long tubes this cam won't just regain the lost bottom end torque that the OP "sees", it will actually beat the stock cam all the way down to the 2100 rpm point that is reported in the graphs. From my experience, if you find a cam that can add a bunch of top end without actually losing anything on the bottom, you have something special. I am impressed.
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Originally Posted by Torqer
My weak sauce love....lol

http://youtu.be/-L8Cip7b1rw
I'm out of town and my X pipe should be coming in from Pfadt this week!!! Can't wait to actually have mine running again. All I lack is that and a pre tune for the zr1 injectors.
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First off, I apologize for my absence. I have been hospitalized 3 times within past couple of weeks and am just beginning to recover enough to get back to work.

We completed the Kooks testing shortly after I made this thread, however I haven't had the opportunity to post the results.

The Kooks 2" longtubes performed as expected and showed gains throughout the powerband. However, even with the slight loss of low end torque BEFORE the headers, the car performed very well. In stock form the car went 60-130mph in 8.10seconds, with the Head/Cam/Intake it did the same in 6.98 seconds. Now with the longtubes, it runs 6.68 seconds 60-130. I will compile all of the data and post a more detailed thread within the next day.

Here's the graph with the Kooks 2" Primary longtube headers


And again in a STD Correction factor for those who prefer it
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Originally Posted by Katech_Jason
We just made 570 on a car with headers. That's where you should be when you add them.
You called it as far as SAE numbers, we are looking forward to adding a FAST in the very near future. We feel as though that's the current restriction.

Originally Posted by JUSTAC6
can you send me the installed price of that package minus headers? also any pics of the car on the rollers or be driven on the street?

thanks
You will have pricing and details within a day.

Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
I would expect that cam with ported heads to pick up more than 20 going from stock manifolds to 2" primary headers, time will tell
I believe the intake manifold and throttle body to be our new bottleneck, time will tell.


Originally Posted by JwT
The hp numbers look great, but torque numbers seem sluggish to me. Is there a reason the tq numbers haven't grown with the hp?
Originally Posted by Katech_Jason
It doesn't look that far off to me. Longtubes and FAST intake will fix that.
Originally Posted by LEAVINU
Surely shops/people aren't doing this in order to boost their results are they?


Originally Posted by ChevyCobb
Did the owner elect to replace the guides as well? I would assume it was at least considered since heads were out and valves replaced? I only ask because I am curious of a price for this setup installed.
The guides were replaced with bronze, I will have the pricing over to you shortly.

Originally Posted by Torqer
I am pretty sure the OP does not answer to this thread or PM's.
Again I apologize for the delay, which I explained in my previous post.
Old 02-06-2014, 02:12 PM
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Excellent results !!! Thanks for coming back in and posting, and I hope you're feeling better.
Old 02-06-2014, 05:49 PM
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My K501 was delivered today!
Old 02-06-2014, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob@TSM
First off, I apologize for my absence. I have been hospitalized 3 times within past couple of weeks and am just beginning to recover enough to get back to work.

We completed the Kooks testing shortly after I made this thread, however I haven't had the opportunity to post the results.

The Kooks 2" longtubes performed as expected and showed gains throughout the powerband. However, even with the slight loss of low end torque BEFORE the headers, the car performed very well. In stock form the car went 60-130mph in 8.10seconds, with the Head/Cam/Intake it did the same in 6.98 seconds. Now with the longtubes, it runs 6.68 seconds 60-130. I will compile all of the data and post a more detailed thread within the next day.

Here's the graph with the Kooks 2" Primary longtube headers


And again in a STD Correction factor for those who prefer it
how did you get the 60-130mph time. Did you use a data logger? or is that on a dyno?
Old 02-06-2014, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob@TSM

I believe the intake manifold and throttle body to be our new bottleneck, time will tell.
Gains in midrange appear to be ~30/40, definitely a SOTP difference. Sounds like a plan, what was KPA if you don't mind sharing? Godspeed on the recovery!
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Great power gains and the exhaust sounds is insane.
Old 02-07-2014, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FNBADAZ06
Excellent results !!! Thanks for coming back in and posting, and I hope you're feeling better.
Thank you!

Originally Posted by jmorgan07z06
how did you get the 60-130mph time. Did you use a data logger? or is that on a dyno?
We use a Racelogic Vbox to record acceleration, it has become the industry standard in other platforms which we specialize in.

Here's the graph from the Vbox with the before/after Heads/cam results


Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
Gains in midrange appear to be ~30/40, definitely a SOTP difference. Sounds like a plan, what was KPA if you don't mind sharing? Godspeed on the recovery!
Thank you! If my memory serves me correctly, I believe the KPA on the dyno was in the low 90's. I need to take the car out for a datalog to confirm.

Originally Posted by foxycar
Great power gains and the exhaust sounds is insane.
Thank you!

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Old 02-07-2014, 11:39 AM
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Awesome gains. I really like how this thing woke up on the top end.

Care to share what you are getting regarding fuel economy???
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Headers really woke that thing up on the low end.
Old 02-13-2014, 04:22 PM
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How the K501 cam compares with the torquer 110 and 116, considering performance and drivability?


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