[Z06] The "Out of Spec" Guide Wear Registry
#501
Instructor
Thank you for the instructions 1972. I've driven it about 500 miles since the swap. I agree with you MTP, especially since Kohle is so thorough to have written in the box "must install lash caps" several times. Given the ease to pull a valve cover, I'll do it when I have some time during this week and post some pictures.
#502
Team Owner
Thank you for the instructions 1972. I've driven it about 500 miles since the swap. I agree with you MTP, especially since Kohle is so thorough to have written in the box "must install lash caps" several times. Given the ease to pull a valve cover, I'll do it when I have some time during this week and post some pictures.
This is what happens after a couple hundred miles without lash caps. Look at the intake valve stems. They're disintegrated...completely pulverized by the rocker arm to the point one fell into a cylinder, and the others weren't that far behind.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1596565920
#503
Instructor
I just pulled my passenger side valve cover off and took video and a picture (below). The lash caps look like they were installed properly on the intake valves. Your thoughts? If there is anything else I should check before putting the cover back on, let me know. 1972: the rocker bolts were at least 22 ft lbs.
#505
Instructor
That looks a little more difficult to access. Is that strut tower brace stock? I see you also live in Indiana. You should bring that 1972 to the Corvette Indy all Corvette show in August in Carmel. http://www.corvetteindy.com/penske-v...-show-819.html. Thanks again for the help on the covers. It was a pretty easy removal with the instructions you and Jay posted.
#506
Burning Brakes
I added the strut tower brace. I've replaced the rocker arms on that car, but I think to remove the heads, I drop the engine out.
Thanks for the car show info. Your car looks good-to-go. I know exactly how you felt about needing to know for sure everything was okay. Way too much at stake here.
Thanks for the car show info. Your car looks good-to-go. I know exactly how you felt about needing to know for sure everything was okay. Way too much at stake here.
#507
Racer
Here's my results from AHP. Looks like I had 6 intake valves that were out of spec This engine had 30K miles.
Cyl1
Int- 0.10"
Exh- .004"
Cyl3
Int- .035"
Exh- .006"
Cyl5
Int- .006"
Exh- .005"
Cyl7
Int- .014"
Exh- .005"
Cyl2
Int- .020"
Exh- .005"
Cyl4
Int- .006"
Exh- .005"
Cyl6
Int- .011"
Exh- .005"
Cyl8
Int- .009"
Exh- .005"
Cyl1
Int- 0.10"
Exh- .004"
Cyl3
Int- .035"
Exh- .006"
Cyl5
Int- .006"
Exh- .005"
Cyl7
Int- .014"
Exh- .005"
Cyl2
Int- .020"
Exh- .005"
Cyl4
Int- .006"
Exh- .005"
Cyl6
Int- .011"
Exh- .005"
Cyl8
Int- .009"
Exh- .005"
#508
Team Owner
Here's my results from AHP. Looks like I had 6 intake valves that were out of spec This engine had 30K miles.
Cyl1
Int- 0.10"
Exh- .004"
Cyl3
Int- .035"
Exh- .006"
Cyl5
Int- .006"
Exh- .005"
Cyl7
Int- .014"
Exh- .005"
Cyl2
Int- .020"
Exh- .005"
Cyl4
Int- .006"
Exh- .005"
Cyl6
Int- .011"
Exh- .005"
Cyl8
Int- .009"
Exh- .005"
Cyl1
Int- 0.10"
Exh- .004"
Cyl3
Int- .035"
Exh- .006"
Cyl5
Int- .006"
Exh- .005"
Cyl7
Int- .014"
Exh- .005"
Cyl2
Int- .020"
Exh- .005"
Cyl4
Int- .006"
Exh- .005"
Cyl6
Int- .011"
Exh- .005"
Cyl8
Int- .009"
Exh- .005"
Welcome to the fraction of one percent club...
Looks like these are "raw" measurements. Good thing you decided to do something about it.
#509
Pro
#510
Team Owner
Those appear to be his raw measurements, so anything over .008 would be considered out of spec...which aligns with his comments on 6/8 intakes being over that.
#511
Pro
Can you please define raw measurements? All I've ever seen was GM spec of anything over 0.0037" on diametrical difference was out of spec.
#512
Team Owner
We have found that the wiggle test readings are roughly half of the actual mic and bore measurements.
Use this formula:
Wiggle test measurement on dial indicator divided by two then minus .0005". That will get you very close to the actual dial bore and mic measurements.
Use this formula:
Wiggle test measurement on dial indicator divided by two then minus .0005". That will get you very close to the actual dial bore and mic measurements.
#513
Pro
Oh. OK. Thanks. So RAW = Wiggle... I knew 0.008 was max on Wiggle. Just had not heard "raw" term. I guess I've been under a rock.
Last edited by long_tall_texan; 03-07-2018 at 09:17 PM.
#514
Racer
Yup, these were raw measurements. I'm super lucky I decided to take the plunge and just get it fixed. Could've ended up in a very bad situation. I even saw the bad intake valves in person during pickup at AHP and they were definitely in bad shape.
Last edited by SpeedwaySD; 03-08-2018 at 02:06 AM.
#515
From my 07 Z06, all was quiet, car was dead stock (27K miles) when I bought it, I plan on tracking so this was step one, sent to AHP:
1 int: .0011" 1 exh: .007"
3 int: .008" 3 exh: .006"
5 int: .0085" 5 exh: .006"
7 int: .009 7 exh: .0065"
2 int: .009" 2 exh: .006"
4 int: .009" 4 exh: .007"
6 int: .0011" 6 exh: .007"
8 int: .010" 8 exh: .0065"
Got it milled, went with the moldstar 90 guides, upgraded springs and the 115 cam, So much better to take the car without wondering if today is the day
1 int: .0011" 1 exh: .007"
3 int: .008" 3 exh: .006"
5 int: .0085" 5 exh: .006"
7 int: .009 7 exh: .0065"
2 int: .009" 2 exh: .006"
4 int: .009" 4 exh: .007"
6 int: .0011" 6 exh: .007"
8 int: .010" 8 exh: .0065"
Got it milled, went with the moldstar 90 guides, upgraded springs and the 115 cam, So much better to take the car without wondering if today is the day
Last edited by tw78911sc; 04-16-2018 at 03:05 PM.
#516
Le Mans Master
Ok, so my Z06 failed the wiggle test. Car is at AHP getting fixed, what a great group of guys and Company. Jake has been very helpful.
2012 Z07 with 18090 miles, Bone Stock and has not been raced or tracked since I purchased it almost 3 years ago.
Here are the wiggle test results, any measurement over .008" is considered to be out-of-spec:
1 int .017"
1exh .009"
3 int .018"
3exh .010"
5 int .027"
5exh .013"
7 int .020"
7exh .012"
2 int .0015"
2exh .009"
4 int .0012"
4exh .009"
6 int .0014"
6exh .009"
8 int .0017"
8exh .010"
2012 Z07 with 18090 miles, Bone Stock and has not been raced or tracked since I purchased it almost 3 years ago.
Here are the wiggle test results, any measurement over .008" is considered to be out-of-spec:
1 int .017"
1exh .009"
3 int .018"
3exh .010"
5 int .027"
5exh .013"
7 int .020"
7exh .012"
2 int .0015"
2exh .009"
4 int .0012"
4exh .009"
6 int .0014"
6exh .009"
8 int .0017"
8exh .010"
#517
Team Owner
Geez...16/16 with 18K miles. Its in great hands with Kohle and team. Complete build, or just fix the heads?
#518
Le Mans Master
#519
Race Director
Ok, so my Z06 failed the wiggle test. Car is at AHP getting fixed, what a great group of guys and Company. Jake has been very helpful.
2012 Z07 with 18090 miles, Bone Stock and has not been raced or tracked since I purchased it almost 3 years ago.
Here are the wiggle test results, any measurement over .008" is considered to be out-of-spec:
1 int .017"
1exh .009"
3 int .018"
3exh .010"
5 int .027"
5exh .013"
7 int .020"
7exh .012"
2 int .0015"
2exh .009"
4 int .0012"
4exh .009"
6 int .0014"
6exh .009"
8 int .0017"
8exh .010"
2012 Z07 with 18090 miles, Bone Stock and has not been raced or tracked since I purchased it almost 3 years ago.
Here are the wiggle test results, any measurement over .008" is considered to be out-of-spec:
1 int .017"
1exh .009"
3 int .018"
3exh .010"
5 int .027"
5exh .013"
7 int .020"
7exh .012"
2 int .0015"
2exh .009"
4 int .0012"
4exh .009"
6 int .0014"
6exh .009"
8 int .0017"
8exh .010"
For a problem that only affects 1% of LS7s, it's amazing how many of us there are.