[Z06] No C7 Z06?
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No C7 Z06?
Reading the new Vette mag and it looks as though team corvette will pass on the new Z06 for now and concentrate on a new ZR1. No telling how long it will be before we see a C7Z badge. Thoughts or contradictions?
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Could be done for. There has been an undertow of discussions around the limited difference between the Z06/Z07 platform from a cost perspective and the ZR1, especially if the LS7 is done for in the C7. I am not sure they would have two aspirated cars, unless they supercharged the Z07and turbocharged the ZR1.
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Looking back, the Z06 was a 'planned-purpose built' car, appearing the year after C6 intro'd (circa 2006 model year). Three years later came ZR1. It was a back room project, which when the prez (of GM) saw it, ok'd it for production.
Next came (the next) model, which was "not" a 'purpose' designed Vette, but rather, a pieced together Vette from available parts (bin). It's purpose was to increase Vette sales since the wide body was popular.
So, in the end, we know C6 ended with four model variants. Three models were purpose built. One was not (or, arguably, was purpose built for sake of sales anyway).
When ZR1 came, Vette passed the $100K threshold. So, I would believe that ZR1 could be next. If there is not another engine power plant to power the Z06, then why have one? We all know that ZR was first Vette to own the FI power plant and so it will likely stay that way.
GM is now back to the LT gen engines. From what I know now, there is only the 6.2L version. I read back in early 2012 that GM had announced they were scaling back the number of power plants they produce globally as a cost measure. If memory serves, they had (10) different power plants then and wanted to go down to 4-6 globally.
So, if that still stands, I doubt they will specially design a engine exclusive to Z06 as they have in the past two gens.
Maybe there will still be a Z06. It might have the same power plant as Stingray, but be a lightweight version. Maybe not. But, I would bet against there being two models which are FI. From what we know now, there is only the 6.2L in the Stingray, and I would bet that the FI will go to ZR.
So, we may end up with Stingray, Stingray w/Z51 option and ZR1. This outlook from available info we know today.
But, hey, we could all be surprised and see Z06 once again with it NA, specialty engine. Dam those tight lips
Next came (the next) model, which was "not" a 'purpose' designed Vette, but rather, a pieced together Vette from available parts (bin). It's purpose was to increase Vette sales since the wide body was popular.
So, in the end, we know C6 ended with four model variants. Three models were purpose built. One was not (or, arguably, was purpose built for sake of sales anyway).
When ZR1 came, Vette passed the $100K threshold. So, I would believe that ZR1 could be next. If there is not another engine power plant to power the Z06, then why have one? We all know that ZR was first Vette to own the FI power plant and so it will likely stay that way.
GM is now back to the LT gen engines. From what I know now, there is only the 6.2L version. I read back in early 2012 that GM had announced they were scaling back the number of power plants they produce globally as a cost measure. If memory serves, they had (10) different power plants then and wanted to go down to 4-6 globally.
So, if that still stands, I doubt they will specially design a engine exclusive to Z06 as they have in the past two gens.
Maybe there will still be a Z06. It might have the same power plant as Stingray, but be a lightweight version. Maybe not. But, I would bet against there being two models which are FI. From what we know now, there is only the 6.2L in the Stingray, and I would bet that the FI will go to ZR.
So, we may end up with Stingray, Stingray w/Z51 option and ZR1. This outlook from available info we know today.
But, hey, we could all be surprised and see Z06 once again with it NA, specialty engine. Dam those tight lips
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Looking back, the Z06 was a 'planned-purpose built' car, appearing the year after C6 intro'd (circa 2006 model year). Three years later came ZR1. It was a back room project, which when the prez (of GM) saw it, ok'd it for production.
Next came (the next) model, which was "not" a 'purpose' designed Vette, but rather, a pieced together Vette from available parts (bin). It's purpose was to increase Vette sales since the wide body was popular.
So, in the end, we know C6 ended with four model variants. Three models were purpose built. One was not (or, arguably, was purpose built for sake of sales anyway).
When ZR1 came, Vette passed the $100K threshold. So, I would believe that ZR1 could be next. If there is not another engine power plant to power the Z06, then why have one? We all know that ZR was first Vette to own the FI power plant and so it will likely stay that way.
GM is now back to the LT gen engines. From what I know now, there is only the 6.2L version. I read back in early 2012 that GM had announced they were scaling back the number of power plants they produce globally as a cost measure. If memory serves, they had (10) different power plants then and wanted to go down to 4-6 globally.
So, if that still stands, I doubt they will specially design a engine exclusive to Z06 as they have in the past two gens.
Maybe there will still be a Z06. It might have the same power plant as Stingray, but be a lightweight version. Maybe not. But, I would bet against there being two models which are FI. From what we know now, there is only the 6.2L in the Stingray, and I would bet that the FI will go to ZR.
So, we may end up with Stingray, Stingray w/Z51 option and ZR1. This outlook from available info we know today.
But, hey, we could all be surprised and see Z06 once again with it NA, specialty engine. Dam those tight lips
Next came (the next) model, which was "not" a 'purpose' designed Vette, but rather, a pieced together Vette from available parts (bin). It's purpose was to increase Vette sales since the wide body was popular.
So, in the end, we know C6 ended with four model variants. Three models were purpose built. One was not (or, arguably, was purpose built for sake of sales anyway).
When ZR1 came, Vette passed the $100K threshold. So, I would believe that ZR1 could be next. If there is not another engine power plant to power the Z06, then why have one? We all know that ZR was first Vette to own the FI power plant and so it will likely stay that way.
GM is now back to the LT gen engines. From what I know now, there is only the 6.2L version. I read back in early 2012 that GM had announced they were scaling back the number of power plants they produce globally as a cost measure. If memory serves, they had (10) different power plants then and wanted to go down to 4-6 globally.
So, if that still stands, I doubt they will specially design a engine exclusive to Z06 as they have in the past two gens.
Maybe there will still be a Z06. It might have the same power plant as Stingray, but be a lightweight version. Maybe not. But, I would bet against there being two models which are FI. From what we know now, there is only the 6.2L in the Stingray, and I would bet that the FI will go to ZR.
So, we may end up with Stingray, Stingray w/Z51 option and ZR1. This outlook from available info we know today.
But, hey, we could all be surprised and see Z06 once again with it NA, specialty engine. Dam those tight lips
If this is true(and a lot of folks hope it's not) and with the LS7 moving to camaro duty, the C6Z06 may hold it's value quite well.
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I wouldn't mind seeing a 7.0 version of the LT1. Just like the LS7, not too many engineering changes would be needed for a 7 liter version. 540 horsepower would be nice but I really salivate over the prospect of 535 or so lb ft of torque.
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I was going to say the same thing, but you beat me to it I firmly believe the C6ZO6 will hold a strong resale value for many years to come. THE Z IS A BEAST!!!!!PERIOD....
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I think the C7 performance car some folks are calling Z07, is the car others are calling ZR.......believe that the car under development and that which may be introduced in Detroit in January, is the same car. Agree that at this point, we will see just one C7 super car, and that will be an FI LT1.
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At le mans in Austin... a GM employee I spoke to did tell me "there will be no Z06 this year, but I can't say anything further for next year" doesn't help much though.
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I think the C7 performance car some folks are calling Z07, is the car others are calling ZR.......believe that the car under development and that which may be introduced in Detroit in January, is the same car. Agree that at this point, we will see just one C7 super car, and that will be an FI LT1.
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I think it's pretty obvious what's going to happen using common sense. There will not be two models, it will just be one. What is throwing people off is that the new Z06 is going to be supercharged which is why people want to call it the ZR1.
This is the LT4 motor that was leaked:
The person who leaked the photo mentioned it was a 6.2L w/supercharger and an "LT4", not to mention the four brushed aluminum lines on the top of the motor obviously copy the original LT4.
It also lines up with the leaked cad rendering:
GM applies for the LT5 and LTX trademark which means they will use the LT5 name for the future ZR1 (if they ever make one). This supercharged 6.2L motor is going to go in the C7 Z06.
I highly doubt they will give it more power than the C6 ZR1 not to mention and it's been rumored to be 625HP which is very realistic.
I'm pretty certain the 2015 Z06 will be a 6.2L LT4. The real question is, will it be 625HP?
Also, it's definitely a wide body:
The ceramic brakes alone tell you that this is going to be one expensive car. I would guess it will have a price tag of $110k if the ceramic brakes come with the base z06 package.
I'm not sure why people think they would ever call the new Z06 a Z07. GM has always stuck to their history and they have only used the Z07 as a "package" name. You will likely see the Z06 as the "base" hi-po model and the Z07 as a package w/the carbon brakes seen in the leaked photos.
This is the LT4 motor that was leaked:
The person who leaked the photo mentioned it was a 6.2L w/supercharger and an "LT4", not to mention the four brushed aluminum lines on the top of the motor obviously copy the original LT4.
It also lines up with the leaked cad rendering:
GM applies for the LT5 and LTX trademark which means they will use the LT5 name for the future ZR1 (if they ever make one). This supercharged 6.2L motor is going to go in the C7 Z06.
I highly doubt they will give it more power than the C6 ZR1 not to mention and it's been rumored to be 625HP which is very realistic.
I'm pretty certain the 2015 Z06 will be a 6.2L LT4. The real question is, will it be 625HP?
Also, it's definitely a wide body:
The ceramic brakes alone tell you that this is going to be one expensive car. I would guess it will have a price tag of $110k if the ceramic brakes come with the base z06 package.
I'm not sure why people think they would ever call the new Z06 a Z07. GM has always stuck to their history and they have only used the Z07 as a "package" name. You will likely see the Z06 as the "base" hi-po model and the Z07 as a package w/the carbon brakes seen in the leaked photos.
Last edited by LT1Pat; 11-26-2013 at 11:29 PM.
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No C7Z06 is fine by me. It will keep our beloved z's exclusive and I wanted a ZR1 next anyway
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Interesting opinions. But if GM does put the 6.2 FI in a new Z06 the price tag of over $110k would put the car out of reach for all but a few. And to me that may be a nail in the coffin for the value of the ZR1. I don't see GM doing this but stranger things have happened.