[ZR1] Manual or Auto??
11-25-2013, 03:25 PM
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Anyway, you owe it to yourself to go drive a new CTS-V automatic. Honestly, I've had two C6's (including my current '10 ZR1) and the CTS-V is WAY more quiet, comfy (absolutely get the Recaro heated/cooled seats), smooth, and more substantial feeling than the C6. Just an overall better daily driver by far and still hauls the mail when needed. Handling is very impressive too for it's weight. The magnetic suspension really keeps things together.
That said, it'll never do what the ZR1 can do on the road course, but everywhere else the V is an outstanding vehicle.
11-25-2013, 03:37 PM
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Keep the GS for your DD, and get the ZR for fun 
I love my GS BUT slow and zzzzzzzz being an auto all though fun at the lights, at the track of course 
I love my GS BUT slow and zzzzzzzz being an auto all though fun at the lights, at the track of course
11-27-2013, 08:00 PM
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That's the thing....I don't want a manual at all, I would much rather have an auto any day. The problem is ZR1's only come with a manual and I really want a ZR1. If they came with an auto there wouldn't be any decision. I'm just curious if the hassle of driving a manual about 2/3 of the time in traffic is worth a ZR1 over a supercharged GS.
Since you don't daily drive or have traffic then you're not in the same boat, but you're right, either way is a win/win!
Since you don't daily drive or have traffic then you're not in the same boat, but you're right, either way is a win/win!
12-02-2013, 03:17 PM
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12-03-2013, 06:26 PM
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How many ZR1's around here have you beaten with your blown C6 auto? I live in DFW too, so I know there aren't exactly a lot of ZR1's around here that will roll race with you. I do road course work, so I'm not too concerned about straight-line speed. Your C6 supercharged automatic would overheat and/or blow up easily if I drove it for a 20 minute track session.
To the OP, if you want a blower, auto, and C6, then get a supercharger and be done with it. However, if you want a factory supercharged automatic small block and since you like cruising around town and won't race on a road course or anything, how about a CTS-V or ZL1? I have a '12 CTS-V automatic and it's an OUTSTANDING daily driver. Makes just over 500rwhp with an Airaid intake and Corsa mufflers running through the auto and is very comfy and smooth, but can kick a** when needed. Best of both worlds and much more DD comfy than a C6.
To the OP, if you want a blower, auto, and C6, then get a supercharger and be done with it. However, if you want a factory supercharged automatic small block and since you like cruising around town and won't race on a road course or anything, how about a CTS-V or ZL1? I have a '12 CTS-V automatic and it's an OUTSTANDING daily driver. Makes just over 500rwhp with an Airaid intake and Corsa mufflers running through the auto and is very comfy and smooth, but can kick a** when needed. Best of both worlds and much more DD comfy than a C6.
In Blown LS3's defense, I believe he means at the dragstrip against a stock zr1 as I know he frequents it often...running in the 6s and 10s, which not many owners of ZR1's can pull that off from what I've seen. Now from a roll that may be another story, though he did go 179mph in the Texas Mile with a strong head wind.
On another note thought, I know you are more a road course guy now, but you ran your C6 at the dragstrip obviously as that is how we met long ago
curious if you've taken the ZR1 down the other "track"?
12-03-2013, 07:50 PM
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Pre-Z06, that is completely true. I have raced ZR1's at the Friday Night Drags as well as on the track at Northstar.
As far as my car blowing up after 20 minutes on a road course, you are wrong. 3 weeks ago, I spent the entire day at Eagles Canyon. My car did fantastic. It was even better than the professional driver sitting in my passenger seat was expecting.
There were numerous ZR1's at the Texas Mile. Only 2 posted Faster times than me. 182.20 and 181.90. My C6 did 179.9. I was the fastest base model C6 at the event. The next closest went 175.5. The slowest ZR1 went 174.90.
As far as my car blowing up after 20 minutes on a road course, you are wrong. 3 weeks ago, I spent the entire day at Eagles Canyon. My car did fantastic. It was even better than the professional driver sitting in my passenger seat was expecting.
There were numerous ZR1's at the Texas Mile. Only 2 posted Faster times than me. 182.20 and 181.90. My C6 did 179.9. I was the fastest base model C6 at the event. The next closest went 175.5. The slowest ZR1 went 174.90.
12-03-2013, 09:46 PM
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Have to say with 770/770 to the wheels! with an Eforce and an auto!
You must be the highest on here with an Eforce cause most are 475-525. You must have something like a freaky 20 psi going on then stock block? Some heavy nos? Didn't know a car would hold together either esp the 6spd auto? What is this build? Those are Turbo numbers not eforce numbers!
You must be the highest on here with an Eforce cause most are 475-525. You must have something like a freaky 20 psi going on then stock block? Some heavy nos? Didn't know a car would hold together either esp the 6spd auto? What is this build? Those are Turbo numbers not eforce numbers!
Excessive power is useless if you can't put it to the ground.
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12-03-2013, 10:51 PM
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12-03-2013, 11:34 PM
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This isn't a battle of which type SC is better. He said my car would last 20 min in a road course. There are pro's sand cons for each type SC. It's obvious, you are partial to A&A. That's great.
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12-04-2013, 12:33 AM
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Ok ZR1 guys, at the risk of being called out on my manhood, here is my question.....
I am debating between a ZR1 and supercharging my Grand Sport and I am unsure how difficult or how much of a pain it would be to get a ZR1 and drive a manual as an almost daily driver. Here's why....my GS is an auto and I much prefer auto's for several reasons....I drive about 35 miles each way in DFW traffic, I think shifting gears would be a pain, I have never owned a manual car but have driven them several times. I frequently talk on the phone while I drive. I will never go to a track or race the car except some highway pulls. I have a truck that I drive when it rains or if there is bad weather.
Any advice on whether driving a manual car under those conditions is fun or more of a hassle? Is driving the manual easy or constant work? Opinions from those who have had both would be appreciated!
Take it easy on me....
I am debating between a ZR1 and supercharging my Grand Sport and I am unsure how difficult or how much of a pain it would be to get a ZR1 and drive a manual as an almost daily driver. Here's why....my GS is an auto and I much prefer auto's for several reasons....I drive about 35 miles each way in DFW traffic, I think shifting gears would be a pain, I have never owned a manual car but have driven them several times. I frequently talk on the phone while I drive. I will never go to a track or race the car except some highway pulls. I have a truck that I drive when it rains or if there is bad weather.
Any advice on whether driving a manual car under those conditions is fun or more of a hassle? Is driving the manual easy or constant work? Opinions from those who have had both would be appreciated!
Take it easy on me....
In 2012 I bought a new Grand Sport Coupe to replace my 2007 Coupe.
Both cars were manual. The 436hp GS was a pig compared to my 400hp 2007 base car. I was not a happy camper. I thought long and hard on the subject. I am not an auto mechanic, but I own a machine shop and I know something about things that go. Here is my reasoning, if I add on a supercharger it will probably solve HP the problem. But the engine, transmission, (actually the entire drive chain and suspension) was not designed for the added horsepower. Not to mention the warrantee. And to be honest if someone was selling a car like that I wouldn't be interested at any price.
So after about 2 or three months I traded in the GS for a new 2012 ZR1, and I have never been happier.
12-04-2013, 12:55 AM
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I'm not sure where you came up with 770/770? I never said my car makes that power. It dyno'ed 2 weeks ago at 548/560 at the rear wheels. My car has an Eforce, 3" upper pulley, Pfadt Long Tube Headers and James Karger custom tune. That's it. It is running about 11lb boost at WOT.
Excessive power is useless if you can't put it to the ground.
Excessive power is useless if you can't put it to the ground.
12-04-2013, 11:39 AM
#35
The CTS-V is a seriously nice car...absolutely no question. AND...you can have what you want (motor and automatic) in a pure stock car, warranty and all!
Another POSSIBILITY is to see what, if anything, is announced at the January Detroit show. There are a lot of rumors that a performance variant will be announced and sold as a 2015. I would not be shocked if it were a supercharged LT-1 with an available automatic. It could be one heck of a car!
Another POSSIBILITY is to see what, if anything, is announced at the January Detroit show. There are a lot of rumors that a performance variant will be announced and sold as a 2015. I would not be shocked if it were a supercharged LT-1 with an available automatic. It could be one heck of a car!
I have the 4 door, but if you like the looks of the 2 door, it's awesome too. I personally like the 2 door, but it was a bit flashy for me. I got a white with chrome wheels '12 CTS-V auto sedan. I took the V badges off the car, so only car guys knows it's a V (with the hood, the big brakes, exhaust tips, wheels, etc.). Blends in at work no problem and around town, but nail the happy pedal and the Corsa mufflers start screaming, the Airaid intake allows that nice blower whine to annouce itself, and it's bye-bye time.
Anyway, you owe it to yourself to go drive a new CTS-V automatic. Honestly, I've had two C6's (including my current '10 ZR1) and the CTS-V is WAY more quiet, comfy (absolutely get the Recaro heated/cooled seats), smooth, and more substantial feeling than the C6. Just an overall better daily driver by far and still hauls the mail when needed. Handling is very impressive too for it's weight. The magnetic suspension really keeps things together.
That said, it'll never do what the ZR1 can do on the road course, but everywhere else the V is an outstanding vehicle.
Anyway, you owe it to yourself to go drive a new CTS-V automatic. Honestly, I've had two C6's (including my current '10 ZR1) and the CTS-V is WAY more quiet, comfy (absolutely get the Recaro heated/cooled seats), smooth, and more substantial feeling than the C6. Just an overall better daily driver by far and still hauls the mail when needed. Handling is very impressive too for it's weight. The magnetic suspension really keeps things together.
That said, it'll never do what the ZR1 can do on the road course, but everywhere else the V is an outstanding vehicle.