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[Z06] Is the LS7 losing it's desirability?
09-28-2013, 08:39 PM
#41
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No.
It's still desired as one of the, if not the best track car you can buy for less than $100k. Used. This comes from professional Porsche drivers that teach at the Porsche driving school, ex-racers from Grand Am and such mostly.
To have a better track car than a C6Z06, you'd need to be in a Challenge or Stradale Ferrari, or a GT3RS Porsche or something like that.
It may be losing popularity among the bling and showy crowd, but the C6 is older now, not an exotic, and the z06 has been surpassed by the zr1. But there's a whole host of performance minded people that love them, and a whole group of people who love the nostalgia of a 427 cu in engine.
It's still desired as one of the, if not the best track car you can buy for less than $100k. Used. This comes from professional Porsche drivers that teach at the Porsche driving school, ex-racers from Grand Am and such mostly.
To have a better track car than a C6Z06, you'd need to be in a Challenge or Stradale Ferrari, or a GT3RS Porsche or something like that.
It may be losing popularity among the bling and showy crowd, but the C6 is older now, not an exotic, and the z06 has been surpassed by the zr1. But there's a whole host of performance minded people that love them, and a whole group of people who love the nostalgia of a 427 cu in engine.
Good post.
09-28-2013, 08:42 PM
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I feel that the C6Z, if anything, will be more desired later on down the road because of the 427. I feel that we won't see big cube motors like this again in the Corvette.
09-28-2013, 09:16 PM
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I was out driving the Z07 yesterday and virtually every guy that saw the car stopped and looked; it turns heads everywhere. No problem of becoming less relevant.
09-29-2013, 12:36 PM
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just because the new C7 has arrived does not mean our C6Zs have lost any luster. I still turn my head for C5s and on down the line. We are a very important part of corvette history. And allways will be.
09-29-2013, 02:54 PM
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Desirable in the present, but will start to loose desirability in the next few years. Other available options, such as next gen lighter/faster pony cars, new z06 version, guarantee this.
Then at some point, collectible value overtakes performance value. If you are still alive.
If the community has not figured things out yet, it likely never will. Then with an old vintage car that is not daily driven, debating finer points on cause/reliability will be pointless.
If you are looking for an exit point, now would be the time.
Knowing the mentality of z06 drivers, there will be a large exodus once average pony cars pull away at stoplights. Remember how worried the community was over the 2013 GT500, soon to be the old stang generation? Maybe we are 1 or 2 generations away from that point?
Then at some point, collectible value overtakes performance value. If you are still alive.
If the community has not figured things out yet, it likely never will. Then with an old vintage car that is not daily driven, debating finer points on cause/reliability will be pointless.
If you are looking for an exit point, now would be the time.
Knowing the mentality of z06 drivers, there will be a large exodus once average pony cars pull away at stoplights. Remember how worried the community was over the 2013 GT500, soon to be the old stang generation? Maybe we are 1 or 2 generations away from that point?
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09-29-2013, 03:49 PM
#48
Melting Slicks
Yes
09-29-2013, 10:15 PM
#49
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The older a car/platform gets, the more "out of date" it gets. Styling, performance metrics, aesthetics all change - and fewer people will find them desirable for a variety of reasons.
The Z06 will continue to be a great package, but as with virtually all other cars - sans the GT40? - it will depreciate with time as fewer and fewer people are willing to shell out the cash for one relative to some other offering.
I think the "427" will always have a nostalgic appeal, but the hassles of owning a low-volume, expensive niche two-seater that's well out of warranty will only be viable for a few fortunate (or brave) individuals.
The Z06 will continue to be a great package, but as with virtually all other cars - sans the GT40? - it will depreciate with time as fewer and fewer people are willing to shell out the cash for one relative to some other offering.
I think the "427" will always have a nostalgic appeal, but the hassles of owning a low-volume, expensive niche two-seater that's well out of warranty will only be viable for a few fortunate (or brave) individuals.
09-29-2013, 10:21 PM
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The older a car/platform gets, the more "out of date" it gets. Styling, performance metrics, aesthetics all change - and fewer people will find them desirable for a variety of reasons.
The Z06 will continue to be a great package, but as with virtually all other cars - sans the GT40? - it will depreciate with time as fewer and fewer people are willing to shell out the cash for one relative to some other offering.
I think the "427" will always have a nostalgic appeal, but the hassles of owning a low-volume, expensive niche two-seater that's well out of warranty will only be viable for a few fortunate (or brave) individuals.
The Z06 will continue to be a great package, but as with virtually all other cars - sans the GT40? - it will depreciate with time as fewer and fewer people are willing to shell out the cash for one relative to some other offering.
I think the "427" will always have a nostalgic appeal, but the hassles of owning a low-volume, expensive niche two-seater that's well out of warranty will only be viable for a few fortunate (or brave) individuals.
09-30-2013, 08:25 PM
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09-30-2013, 09:21 PM
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I will not touch a C7 simply based on it's looks...so for me and I am assuming for others who are in the same boat, the C6 Z06 will continue to be desirable at least until the C8 comes out with a more appealing design.
10-01-2013, 11:13 AM
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That was reason enough to buy a C6, but as soon as I learned there may never be another LS7, I began the search for my new 2013 ZO6 and I couldn't be happier. The engine is what made this car so desirable to me. Do I track it......no. Do I drag race it......no. If I did, I would spend the money to enhance it's power and dependability like I would any factory car that I would want to race. But I don't, so I won't.
So, in response to the thread title, "Is the LS7 losing it's desirability", for those that had mechanical failures, probably so. For the masses, the 427 will never lose it's desirability and unless GM goes back to offering the 427, the value of Corvettes with these engines will remain high.
10-01-2013, 11:52 AM
#57
Melting Slicks
I love the LS7 motor! The power is amazing and it impressive in it's delivery. A beast when you want and excellent fuel economy on the freeway when you want to cruise.
I just came out of a AMG E63 with the M156 motor (6.3 lt), and I would take the LS7 anyday over the M156, which was built specifically for the AMG (handbuilt N.A. engine also) cars.
The M156 had been twice named "Best Performance Engine of the Year". By the way MB faced a class action lawsuit in 2011 for alleged valve train defects.
G.M. IMO had a great motor and allowed it's reputation to be tarnished by not jumping on the valve guild issue, trying to do the Corporated Board room denial, rather than immediately addressing the issue(s) and addressing customer concerns, during a down economy.
Now the motor goes in the Z28 and I doubt G.M. would be doing so if they had any concerns of reliabilty. JMHO
I just came out of a AMG E63 with the M156 motor (6.3 lt), and I would take the LS7 anyday over the M156, which was built specifically for the AMG (handbuilt N.A. engine also) cars.
The M156 had been twice named "Best Performance Engine of the Year". By the way MB faced a class action lawsuit in 2011 for alleged valve train defects.
G.M. IMO had a great motor and allowed it's reputation to be tarnished by not jumping on the valve guild issue, trying to do the Corporated Board room denial, rather than immediately addressing the issue(s) and addressing customer concerns, during a down economy.
Now the motor goes in the Z28 and I doubt G.M. would be doing so if they had any concerns of reliabilty. JMHO
10-01-2013, 12:04 PM
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I love the LS7 motor! The power is amazing and it impressive in it's delivery. A beast when you want and excellent fuel economy on the freeway when you want to cruise.
I just came out of a AMG E63 with the M156 motor (6.3 lt), and I would take the LS7 anyday over the M156, which was built specifically for the AMG (handbuilt N.A. engine also) cars.
The M156 had been twice named "Best Performance Engine of the Year". By the way MB faced a class action lawsuit in 2011 for alleged valve train defects.
G.M. IMO had a great motor and allowed it's reputation to be tarnished by not jumping on the valve guild issue, trying to do the Corporated Board room denial, rather than immediately addressing the issue(s) and addressing customer concerns, during a down economy.
Now the motor goes in the Z28 and I doubt G.M. would be doing so if they had any concerns of reliabilty. JMHO
I just came out of a AMG E63 with the M156 motor (6.3 lt), and I would take the LS7 anyday over the M156, which was built specifically for the AMG (handbuilt N.A. engine also) cars.
The M156 had been twice named "Best Performance Engine of the Year". By the way MB faced a class action lawsuit in 2011 for alleged valve train defects.
G.M. IMO had a great motor and allowed it's reputation to be tarnished by not jumping on the valve guild issue, trying to do the Corporated Board room denial, rather than immediately addressing the issue(s) and addressing customer concerns, during a down economy.
Now the motor goes in the Z28 and I doubt G.M. would be doing so if they had any concerns of reliabilty. JMHO
10-01-2013, 12:17 PM
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Desirable in the present, but will start to loose desirability in the next few years. Other available options, such as next gen lighter/faster pony cars, new z06 version, guarantee this.
Then at some point, collectible value overtakes performance value. If you are still alive.
If the community has not figured things out yet, it likely never will. Then with an old vintage car that is not daily driven, debating finer points on cause/reliability will be pointless.
If you are looking for an exit point, now would be the time.
Knowing the mentality of z06 drivers, there will be a large exodus once average pony cars pull away at stoplights. Remember how worried the community was over the 2013 GT500, soon to be the old stang generation? Maybe we are 1 or 2 generations away from that point?
Then at some point, collectible value overtakes performance value. If you are still alive.
If the community has not figured things out yet, it likely never will. Then with an old vintage car that is not daily driven, debating finer points on cause/reliability will be pointless.
If you are looking for an exit point, now would be the time.
Knowing the mentality of z06 drivers, there will be a large exodus once average pony cars pull away at stoplights. Remember how worried the community was over the 2013 GT500, soon to be the old stang generation? Maybe we are 1 or 2 generations away from that point?
10-01-2013, 12:28 PM
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