[Z06] C6Z vs C7 - Z still top dog
05-29-2013, 03:25 PM
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Le Mans Master
It's mildly amusing for me to peruse the C7 General Discussion forum and seeing all the people who have already placed C7 orders trying to justify all their decisions. Many placed orders with the assumption that the horsepower numbers would be closer to 500. Now that it comes in at 455, they're saying "Well honestly, who really needs that much power for a street car? 455 is perfect."
I'm of course biased towards the C6Z and I want that to remain the top dog for a while. Can't wait until the base C7's come out and all the Youtube videos start popping up of them getting smoked by C6Z's. My opinion will change when I'm ready to buy a C7Z.
I'm of course biased towards the C6Z and I want that to remain the top dog for a while. Can't wait until the base C7's come out and all the Youtube videos start popping up of them getting smoked by C6Z's. My opinion will change when I'm ready to buy a C7Z.
05-29-2013, 03:42 PM
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LoL I mean of cars people can realistically purchase in their lifetime.
You can get used C6Z's in good condition mid 40's these days. ZR1's are way out of that price range, I consider them supercars much like Lamborghini\Ferraris\etc...nice to look at and awesome stock performance but will never own one due to the cost =o)
You can get used C6Z's in good condition mid 40's these days. ZR1's are way out of that price range, I consider them supercars much like Lamborghini\Ferraris\etc...nice to look at and awesome stock performance but will never own one due to the cost =o)
05-29-2013, 04:11 PM
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I'm disappointed in the C7 so far.
The lowlights
- The rear end does not work - looks like a Japanese car. I have never seen such a confused over designed rear end - it has way too much going on - too many shapes too many colors etc. Also too many logos.
- Weight gain is inexcusable after replacing frame with aluminum and carbon fiber body panels
- DI was supposedly going to net 10-15% more power - instead we got around 5% increase with a weight gain (see above)
- Skinnier tires - WTF
- Stingray name is cool - That Stingray logo is not. The worst graphic interpretation of a stingray ever - looks like a guitar not a sea creature.
It's amazing what marketing can accomplish as many in the C7 forum are wetting themselves over this car- sure from the front and sides it is very attractive and the new interior looks nice but the C6 gained 50 hp over the C5 when it debuted and came in lighter as well. This new one is gaining 20 hp and is heavier.
Also I think there are way too many new members in the C7 section that are way overzealous about how much they like this car. Many of them will never by any Corvette much less a new C7, and I feel that GM has had a lot of interns join after the 1.13.13 reveal constantly overhyping the car and attacking anyone that has a criticism of it.
The C7 Z06 has to overcome a lot for me to be happy at this point.
The lowlights
- The rear end does not work - looks like a Japanese car. I have never seen such a confused over designed rear end - it has way too much going on - too many shapes too many colors etc. Also too many logos.
- Weight gain is inexcusable after replacing frame with aluminum and carbon fiber body panels
- DI was supposedly going to net 10-15% more power - instead we got around 5% increase with a weight gain (see above)
- Skinnier tires - WTF
- Stingray name is cool - That Stingray logo is not. The worst graphic interpretation of a stingray ever - looks like a guitar not a sea creature.
It's amazing what marketing can accomplish as many in the C7 forum are wetting themselves over this car- sure from the front and sides it is very attractive and the new interior looks nice but the C6 gained 50 hp over the C5 when it debuted and came in lighter as well. This new one is gaining 20 hp and is heavier.
Also I think there are way too many new members in the C7 section that are way overzealous about how much they like this car. Many of them will never by any Corvette much less a new C7, and I feel that GM has had a lot of interns join after the 1.13.13 reveal constantly overhyping the car and attacking anyone that has a criticism of it.
The C7 Z06 has to overcome a lot for me to be happy at this point.
Last edited by Hirohawa; 05-29-2013 at 07:05 PM.
05-29-2013, 05:29 PM
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jmho, gm nailed the design and 460/465 is plenty for the base model. Cant wait to see what they do with the Z models
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05-29-2013, 06:24 PM
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yea makes sense
With direct port injection and a purported 550hp, the C7Z should be more than a match for the C6Z06/Z07 I am very confident that the C7, while a very good car and faster than the base C6 will not be faster around a racetrack than my car. I also believe that the C7 Z06 WILL be faster than any C6. Just my opinion. No facts to back that up so do not ask me to provide them!
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05-29-2013, 06:31 PM
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I really don't think my 622 h/p Z06 is that unrefined, with climate control, a marginal soundsystem/GPS which will be upgraded, and an already somewhat upgraded interior... It really is not to difficult to install a sound/GPS which is magnitudes better than even the units in my Acura MDX, which are some of the best units I have seen from the factory. Of course it is no 458 or Veyron, but those are a little over my paygrade!
05-29-2013, 06:46 PM
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It's mazing what marketing can accomplish as many in the C7 forum are wetting themselves over this car- sure from the front and sides it is very attractive and the new interior looks nice but the C6 gained 50 hp over the C5 when it debuted and came in lighter as well. This new one is gaining 20 hp and is heavier.
Also I think there are way too many new members in the C7 section that are way overzealous about how much they like this car. Many of them will never by any Corvette much less a new C7, and I feel that GM has had a lot of interns join after the 1.13.13 reveal constantly overhyping the car and attacking anyone that has a criticism of it.
The C7 Z06 has to overcome a lot for me to be happy at this point.
Doesn't have the horsepower numbers that were expected? You didn't need that much horsepower anyway, GM is doing you a favor by giving you the exact amount you need - 455.
It's really like a gang beat-down over there if you try to criticize the car. My best guess is that a lot of these people have put deposits down on the C7 and they want to justify their purchase by making sure everyone knows that the C7 is perfect. Everyone is naturally defensive of their own car and their own choices.
05-29-2013, 09:24 PM
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Le Mans Master
I'm disappointed in the C7 so far.
The lowlights
- The rear end does not work - looks like a Japanese car. I have never seen such a confused over designed rear end - it has way too much going on - too many shapes too many colors etc. Also too many logos.
- Weight gain is inexcusable after replacing frame with aluminum and carbon fiber body panels
- DI was supposedly going to net 10-15% more power - instead we got around 5% increase with a weight gain (see above)
- Skinnier tires - WTF
- Stingray name is cool - That Stingray logo is not. The worst graphic interpretation of a stingray ever - looks like a guitar not a sea creature.
It's amazing what marketing can accomplish as many in the C7 forum are wetting themselves over this car- sure from the front and sides it is very attractive and the new interior looks nice but the C6 gained 50 hp over the C5 when it debuted and came in lighter as well. This new one is gaining 20 hp and is heavier.
Also I think there are way too many new members in the C7 section that are way overzealous about how much they like this car. Many of them will never by any Corvette much less a new C7, and I feel that GM has had a lot of interns join after the 1.13.13 reveal constantly overhyping the car and attacking anyone that has a criticism of it.
The C7 Z06 has to overcome a lot for me to be happy at this point.
The lowlights
- The rear end does not work - looks like a Japanese car. I have never seen such a confused over designed rear end - it has way too much going on - too many shapes too many colors etc. Also too many logos.
- Weight gain is inexcusable after replacing frame with aluminum and carbon fiber body panels
- DI was supposedly going to net 10-15% more power - instead we got around 5% increase with a weight gain (see above)
- Skinnier tires - WTF
- Stingray name is cool - That Stingray logo is not. The worst graphic interpretation of a stingray ever - looks like a guitar not a sea creature.
It's amazing what marketing can accomplish as many in the C7 forum are wetting themselves over this car- sure from the front and sides it is very attractive and the new interior looks nice but the C6 gained 50 hp over the C5 when it debuted and came in lighter as well. This new one is gaining 20 hp and is heavier.
Also I think there are way too many new members in the C7 section that are way overzealous about how much they like this car. Many of them will never by any Corvette much less a new C7, and I feel that GM has had a lot of interns join after the 1.13.13 reveal constantly overhyping the car and attacking anyone that has a criticism of it.
The C7 Z06 has to overcome a lot for me to be happy at this point.
05-30-2013, 08:56 AM
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I'm disappointed in the C7 so far.
The lowlights
- The rear end does not work - looks like a Japanese car. I have never seen such a confused over designed rear end - it has way too much going on - too many shapes too many colors etc. Also too many logos.
- Weight gain is inexcusable after replacing frame with aluminum and carbon fiber body panels
- DI was supposedly going to net 10-15% more power - instead we got around 5% increase with a weight gain (see above)
- Skinnier tires - WTF
- Stingray name is cool - That Stingray logo is not. The worst graphic interpretation of a stingray ever - looks like a guitar not a sea creature.
It's amazing what marketing can accomplish as many in the C7 forum are wetting themselves over this car- sure from the front and sides it is very attractive and the new interior looks nice but the C6 gained 50 hp over the C5 when it debuted and came in lighter as well. This new one is gaining 20 hp and is heavier.
Also I think there are way too many new members in the C7 section that are way overzealous about how much they like this car. Many of them will never by any Corvette much less a new C7, and I feel that GM has had a lot of interns join after the 1.13.13 reveal constantly overhyping the car and attacking anyone that has a criticism of it.
The C7 Z06 has to overcome a lot for me to be happy at this point.
The lowlights
- The rear end does not work - looks like a Japanese car. I have never seen such a confused over designed rear end - it has way too much going on - too many shapes too many colors etc. Also too many logos.
- Weight gain is inexcusable after replacing frame with aluminum and carbon fiber body panels
- DI was supposedly going to net 10-15% more power - instead we got around 5% increase with a weight gain (see above)
- Skinnier tires - WTF
- Stingray name is cool - That Stingray logo is not. The worst graphic interpretation of a stingray ever - looks like a guitar not a sea creature.
It's amazing what marketing can accomplish as many in the C7 forum are wetting themselves over this car- sure from the front and sides it is very attractive and the new interior looks nice but the C6 gained 50 hp over the C5 when it debuted and came in lighter as well. This new one is gaining 20 hp and is heavier.
Also I think there are way too many new members in the C7 section that are way overzealous about how much they like this car. Many of them will never by any Corvette much less a new C7, and I feel that GM has had a lot of interns join after the 1.13.13 reveal constantly overhyping the car and attacking anyone that has a criticism of it.
The C7 Z06 has to overcome a lot for me to be happy at this point.
05-30-2013, 09:22 AM
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I'm disappointed in the C7 so far.
The lowlights
- The rear end does not work - looks like a Japanese car. I have never seen such a confused over designed rear end - it has way too much going on - too many shapes too many colors etc. Also too many logos.
- Weight gain is inexcusable after replacing frame with aluminum and carbon fiber body panels
- DI was supposedly going to net 10-15% more power - instead we got around 5% increase with a weight gain (see above)
- Skinnier tires - WTF
- Stingray name is cool - That Stingray logo is not. The worst graphic interpretation of a stingray ever - looks like a guitar not a sea creature.
It's amazing what marketing can accomplish as many in the C7 forum are wetting themselves over this car- sure from the front and sides it is very attractive and the new interior looks nice but the C6 gained 50 hp over the C5 when it debuted and came in lighter as well. This new one is gaining 20 hp and is heavier.
Also I think there are way too many new members in the C7 section that are way overzealous about how much they like this car. Many of them will never by any Corvette much less a new C7, and I feel that GM has had a lot of interns join after the 1.13.13 reveal constantly overhyping the car and attacking anyone that has a criticism of it.
The C7 Z06 has to overcome a lot for me to be happy at this point.
The lowlights
- The rear end does not work - looks like a Japanese car. I have never seen such a confused over designed rear end - it has way too much going on - too many shapes too many colors etc. Also too many logos.
- Weight gain is inexcusable after replacing frame with aluminum and carbon fiber body panels
- DI was supposedly going to net 10-15% more power - instead we got around 5% increase with a weight gain (see above)
- Skinnier tires - WTF
- Stingray name is cool - That Stingray logo is not. The worst graphic interpretation of a stingray ever - looks like a guitar not a sea creature.
It's amazing what marketing can accomplish as many in the C7 forum are wetting themselves over this car- sure from the front and sides it is very attractive and the new interior looks nice but the C6 gained 50 hp over the C5 when it debuted and came in lighter as well. This new one is gaining 20 hp and is heavier.
Also I think there are way too many new members in the C7 section that are way overzealous about how much they like this car. Many of them will never by any Corvette much less a new C7, and I feel that GM has had a lot of interns join after the 1.13.13 reveal constantly overhyping the car and attacking anyone that has a criticism of it.
The C7 Z06 has to overcome a lot for me to be happy at this point.
I didn't realize that the final horsepower numbers were only 20 above the outgoing LS3.
It looks like they are leaving themselves some leeway to increase this number in subsequent years.
Anyone who works for GM, is supposed to identify themselves on social media and boards such as this one, according to GM's employee policies.
05-30-2013, 09:40 AM
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Le Mans Master
Not really the point. The C7 Stingray is the "base" new gen and it is better than the out going C6 "base.". The C7 Z is going to be better than the C6 Z. Depending on how much better, there is either a C7 Vert or a C7 Z(assuming no supercharging or turbo charging) being added in a few years to my stable.
