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Old 05-03-2012, 09:38 AM
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I do not track, but I do drive with some gusto on back country roads. I am looking for a tire with more grip in colder weather. The trip I just got back from, we ran in about 52 degrees (before getting to the warmer climate) and I felt my OEM Good years were slipping. They also made me hydroplane during rain (on highway). Looking for some good replacement.
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No. I have the Bridgestone RE050A run flats and they are much better in the rain, but still are a summer tire, meaning, they don't grip as well in cool/cold temps.
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Hopefully, there is a tire manufacturer paying attention. That is what I want as well. I live in Oregon and wet performance is more important to me than dry performance, not that I drive it a lot in the rain, but it happens.
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For what it's worth: Back in 2009 when I owned a Z06 I quickly replcaed the OEm's with a set of Michelin R/F in the viper size. They were much quiter on the road and were really good in the rain. Spirited drives thru the North Ga. mountains weren't a problem either ( if the tires were warmed up).

Fartpipe owns that car now (temporarily I believe) and with 20k miles they're still on there with decent amount of tread.
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Generals work great in cold but they stopped making them.

You could try going to an 18" wheel and that would open up some choices.
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i gotta tell you i went to spring mountain 2 years back in december. it rained, snowed and iced over the whole time i was there. and the michelin ps zp did great even in 30 degree weather with wet. i was very shocked. problem is they are tremendously expensive.
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Originally Posted by HyperX
I do not track, but I do drive with some gusto on back country roads. I am looking for a tire with more grip in colder weather. The trip I just got back from, we ran in about 52 degrees (before getting to the warmer climate) and I felt my OEM Good years were slipping. They also made me hydroplane during rain (on highway). Looking for some good replacement.
With the combined tire width and light weight of our Zs, it would be hard to eliminate hydroplaning.

I just installed OEM sized PS2 ZPs and love them for all around driving. They also are a Summer tire and one must be careful using them in the cold.
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Originally Posted by jerseydrew
i gotta tell you i went to spring mountain 2 years back in december. it rained, snowed and iced over the whole time i was there. and the michelin ps zp did great even in 30 degree weather with wet. i was very shocked. problem is they are tremendously expensive.
Thanks! I am leaning towards those...
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I have a set of Generals with about 8k miles on them i would be willing to sell, and like unreal stated they are great in the cold and the rain. People will bitch about the performance characteristics not being up to snuff with the GY's when warm, which i will agree with. But if you are getting to the limit on the Generals street driving, you are being VERY aggresive (to the point of reckless). Straight line traction on these is also great.
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Originally Posted by HyperX
I do not track, but I do drive with some gusto on back country roads. I am looking for a tire with more grip in colder weather. The trip I just got back from, we ran in about 52 degrees (before getting to the warmer climate) and I felt my OEM Good years were slipping. They also made me hydroplane during rain (on highway). Looking for some good replacement.
Any tire that takes advantage of the Z's capabilities will not do well in colder weather.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Generals work great in cold but they stopped making them.

You could try going to an 18" wheel and that would open up some choices.
I had generals on my z. What a great value.
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Originally Posted by jerseydrew
i gotta tell you i went to spring mountain 2 years back in december. it rained, snowed and iced over the whole time i was there. and the michelin ps zp did great even in 30 degree weather with wet. i was very shocked. problem is they are tremendously expensive.
I'm running the PS2Zps also and I agree with you on the increased traction. When you take into consideration that they get twice the mileage of the GY runflats, they are only 1/2 as tremendously expensive.
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How is the tread life on the regular PS2's compared to the run flat version? I can't be switching tires every year, this crap is getting expensive. I'd rather spend a little more one time and get a lot more mileage out of them
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If you can live with non runflats, go Michelin PSS. I got mine to hook in 1st with a 1-2 ft rollout in 47 deg. F. (no bs). Also downright incredible in the rain, nailed it in 2nd at 35 MPH and it stuck.
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The toyo t1r was designed to handle the rain. It has great wet/dry traction and did pretty well for me in the cold weather too. Cheaper than invos
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could use some advice here. 9500 mi on the original GY's & they are at or below the wear bars. Looks like the options for stock '08 Z06 tire size are GY's Mich PS2 & Bridgstone RE050's in run flat & Mich PSS & several others non run flat. Not racin this car but do get on it once in a while. Willing to give up a little traction for better tread life. Any one out there with many miles on either the Michs or Bridgestone Rfs?
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Originally Posted by yellowzee
could use some advice here. 9500 mi on the original GY's & they are at or below the wear bars. Looks like the options for stock '08 Z06 tire size are GY's Mich PS2 & Bridgstone RE050's in run flat & Mich PSS & several others non run flat. Not racin this car but do get on it once in a while. Willing to give up a little traction for better tread life. Any one out there with many miles on either the Michs or Bridgestone Rfs?
Installed the Bridgestone RE050A runflats on my Z06 and never looked back. I've put ~5,000 miles on them(including driving high speeds around the 33 degree banked turns at Talladega) and running hard at the Tail of the Dragon. Have worn ~15% of the 10/32" tread off them.

They have much better straight line traction over the OE Supercars but still don't like the cold. I can go 75% throttle at 20 MPH in first gear, and light them up on a concrete street in 50 degree weather, in the sun.

Normal driving, they hold great; and are great in the rain. No drama(white knuckles) with the Bridgestones.
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Nitto Invos here. Not the best for dry traction, but do well in the wet and the cold.
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My vote would also be for the Michelin PSS. The PS 2's I had on my car lasted forever, relatively speeking. The 295 fronts were replaced at 42,000 miles only because I got hosed by a tire shop that adjusted my toe in the wrong way and it ate one of my tires right down to the cord. I replaced them both and the good one had right at 1/2 tread left. My rears were replaced at 46,000 miles. They appeared to have about 1/2 of the tread remaining on the outer and inner edges but the centers were slick. I tell you this because the PS 2 is rated with a tread wear of 220 and the PSS is rated at 300. No one has mentioned this yet but I think the 300 tread wear rating comes from the PSS having 2/16 more tread depth than the PS 2. This should mean that even though the PSS has outstanding grip, it should be better in the wet than even the PS2 as Michelin claims. I drove my Z on freezing rain for 470 miles through Texas on the way home from the museum delivery and even on the stock GY Runflats, I didn't consider my car dangerous. It handled as good as any cars on the road and better than most.
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