[ZR1] Can someone explain why the ZR1 is so heavy
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Le Mans Master
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Can someone explain why the ZR1 is so heavy
Seriously with all the carbon parts on the car and a smaller motor and lighter brakes how is the damn thing heavier than a Z06!!!
Next what can I do to free some weight up? Is there an absurd amount of sound deadening or something?
Next what can I do to free some weight up? Is there an absurd amount of sound deadening or something?
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#6
Le Mans Master
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Realistically what ~200lbs with fluids. With the lighter brakes, roof, halo, and hood we should be closing the gap a lot more.
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Part of it is due to beefed up diff, axles etc to handle the power.
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Heavier powertrain and blower setup adds weight
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Le Mans Master
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Soooooo lets just say the diff is internal parts so that won't really add much weight. By axles I am assuming you are referring to the halfshafts. If thats the case I am tempted to say they can't be much beefier than the ones of the C5Z.
Realistically its just the blower, intercooler, heat exchanger. They shouldn't be adding that much weight to offset the lightweight parts.
Realistically its just the blower, intercooler, heat exchanger. They shouldn't be adding that much weight to offset the lightweight parts.
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All of these things do add up and make a difference.
jas
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It's not "just" those. You've got the supercharger plumbing as noted, plus the beefed up drivetrain that was also mentioned (yes, the parts are heavier). The brake calipers are heavier. The wheels and tires are as well.
All of these things do add up and make a difference.
jas
All of these things do add up and make a difference.
jas
#15
Le Mans Master
I think wheel weight increase over a C6Z06 is about 38lbs approx.
Weight of the braking setup should kinda be null with the CC rotors with bigger calipers?
The supercharger/intercooler/plumming,heat exchanger, pulleys 95-105lbs atleast
The rear diff case and few little things inside of the trans/diff say 5-8lbs
I think the magnetic ride adds some weight gonna guess around 35lbs
bigger sumped oil tank than the 08 and earlier Z06's w/fluid
thicker sway bars is a guess?
Weight of the braking setup should kinda be null with the CC rotors with bigger calipers?
The supercharger/intercooler/plumming,heat exchanger, pulleys 95-105lbs atleast
The rear diff case and few little things inside of the trans/diff say 5-8lbs
I think the magnetic ride adds some weight gonna guess around 35lbs
bigger sumped oil tank than the 08 and earlier Z06's w/fluid
thicker sway bars is a guess?
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I can attest to the fact that there is NOT an abundance of sound deadening.
#17
Melting Slicks
So you guys are saying that the ZR1 has even a beefier diff than the Z06, which is already larger than the other models.
#19
Le Mans Master
The engine itself is heavier, too. "Bigger" displacement just means they drilled a bigger bore for the cylinder. Less material, less weight. LS9 has more robust internal parts, forged crank, etc.
Let's not forget about the blower itself.
Practically nearly all ZR1's come with the 3ZR packages (which adds some weight) compared to mostly 2LZ packages on the Z06.
Overall, I'm glad GM built the ZR1 more robust. Comparing it to other front (mid) engine cars with similar size and drivetrain it is actually pretty light.
Let's not forget about the blower itself.
Practically nearly all ZR1's come with the 3ZR packages (which adds some weight) compared to mostly 2LZ packages on the Z06.
Overall, I'm glad GM built the ZR1 more robust. Comparing it to other front (mid) engine cars with similar size and drivetrain it is actually pretty light.
Last edited by range96; 02-27-2012 at 08:08 AM.
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