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Old 04-27-2011, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jcosta79
I'm not really sure why it bothers some people so much when other people in "inferior" cars want to have some fun with them.

I'm sure if the OP had met up with a Veyron SS his post would have been much different. I'm sure he would have been writing about what an awesome experience it was to run through the gears next to such a cool car.

But then maybe the owner of the Veyron would be on the Buggati forums posting about some d-bag in a Chevy wanting to race him.

My point is, being a car enthusiast should not be some exclusive club that only those few who have enough money to afford "exotic" cars can be a member of. Everyone should be able to have fun and enjoy their cars.

I mean, really, was it so bad that a kid in a Lancer wanted to see how fast your car really is? I'm sure it doesn't happen all the time. If you would have just punched it for 2 gears and then let off the gas, you probably would have made the guy's day. And be honest, don't we look for any little excuse to exercise our cars anyway?



Happened to me! This Lambo Gallardo went by me and he let it wind out in the gears. I jumped on the gas and just wanted to hear that motor's sound as I realized I was in my wife's Chrysler 300.
Old 04-27-2011, 08:33 PM
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I'm not sure if GM Canada ever offered zero percent on the ZR1 but at a sticker price of 147k i would crawl on my stomach over broken glass before i would take that.
Old 04-27-2011, 09:01 PM
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I probably will keep it longer than I normally would keep a car. Normally it's 2 years maybe 3. Only way I will get rid of it is if they come out with a better and faster ZR1 C7. They tone it down then I more than likely will keep this beast. I don't really care if you need to keep it long term for the financing deal to make sense and pay off. Bottom line I like taking the 0% money and leaving my cash in investments to make some real money.


i've kept cars for awhile that i didn't think i would, then i sold cars sooner then i thought i would, either way Free money is Free money,
when the government drops prime to 0% there is a reason for it, and people take advantage of it even if they need the money or not, it's free.

true if i took the money and put into a IPO, and watch it grow and if i got lucky after a few years, i could probably buy Tahiti, but this what some of us did with the 0% because we know free money is free money.

You have to remember too that with todays tighten belts, they, (whomever your finance institution will be),isn't going to give you this type of loan for an auto unless you have your finances squared away, they will make sure you can afford it before they turn over the keys..

it' not like it was 5 to 6 years ago when a person could walk out with a 500K loan with a FICO of 530 and no proof of income.

Lancer, i put this in there so at least i was responding to the OP topic
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i've kept cars for awhile that i didn't think i would, then i sold cars sooner then i thought i would, either way Free money is Free money,
when the government drops prime to 0% there is a reason for it, and people take advantage of it even if they need the money or not, it's free.

true if i took the money and put into a IPO, and watch it grow and if i got lucky after a few years, i could probably buy Tahiti, but this what some of us did with the 0% because we know free money is free money.

You have to remember too that with todays tighten belts, they, (whomever your finance institution will be),isn't going to give you this type of loan for an auto unless you have your finances squared away, they will make sure you can afford it before they turn over the keys..

it' not like it was 5 to 6 years ago when a person could walk out with a 500K loan with a FICO of 530 and no proof of income.

Lancer, i put this in there so at least i was responding to the OP topic
Look I by some of the reasons for taking the 0 percent but come on, it isn't free. It costs you about $2000+ to take the 0%, that is not free. GM doesn't do things for free. But hey, keep telling yourself that, maybe if you say it enough you will believe it.
Old 04-28-2011, 07:29 AM
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If there's one thing I have learned over the years, is that there is no such thing as "free money". It doesn't exist.

It's just another marketing tool used to get you to finance the car. Dealerships don't do anything unless they are going to make money off of it somehow.

Dealerships never give anything away either. No matter how hard you think you bargained or negotiated the price down on that new car you got, trust me, the dealership got theirs.

You may have gotten a better deal than the next guy, but you did not get anything for "free."

Don't mean to rain on anybody's parade, but that's the simple truth.
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The 0% financing was offered by GM not the dealerships. It's their way of acknowledging a car is overpriced for market conditions.

I agree, there is no free lunch.
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Look I by some of the reasons for taking the 0 percent but come on, it isn't free. It costs you about $2000+ to take the 0%, that is not free. GM doesn't do things for free. But hey, keep telling yourself that, maybe if you say it enough you will believe it.
If you keep a car for short period of time it is cheaper for GM to offer 0%. It may or may not be a better alternative for the buyer.
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$2,000 is what it costs for the free money? Let's see, that can be made in a very short time with $108,000 in stocks, mutual funds or in rent from real estate. Actually if you look at it very realistically you can probably make $20,000 or $25,000 while using their free money.

I bet if you asked 100 accountants or investment analysts if you should write a $108,000 check for a ZR1 or finance $110,000 at 0% for 7 years 100 of them would tell you to pay a little more for the car at 0% interest and put your cash to work. Actually they would probably tell you to go buy a Lancer lol
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I can put my money on the street and earn 10% per annum on a 100k = 10k per year x5 years = 50k less taxes , net 30k to me, less 2k for the "cost" of borrowing at zero = 28k in my pocket. What am i missing here?
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Originally Posted by BT ZR1
I can put my money on the street and earn 10% per annum on a 100k = 10k per year x5 years = 50k less taxes , net 30k to me, less 2k for the "cost" of borrowing at zero = 28k in my pocket. What am i missing here?
You're missing the extra cost of paying the loan. You have to reduce your 100K seed money as you withdraw money from it to pay the loan (principal + interest).
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Originally Posted by ub2slow2
$2,000 is what it costs for the free money? Let's see, that can be made in a very short time with $108,000 in stocks, mutual funds or in rent from real estate. Actually if you look at it very realistically you can probably make $20,000 or $25,000 while using their free money.

I bet if you asked 100 accountants or investment analysts if you should write a $108,000 check for a ZR1 or finance $110,000 at 0% for 7 years 100 of them would tell you to pay a little more for the car at 0% interest and put your cash to work. Actually they would probably tell you to go buy a Lancer lol
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Wow this thread got derailed rather quickly.
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Originally Posted by kageryu311
Wow this thread got derailed rather quickly.
What are you talking about, it was derailed right from the start, let me spell it out for you....LANCER.
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Originally Posted by Racer
What are you talking about, it was derailed right from the start, let me spell it out for you....LANCER.
A nice SLOW fuel efficent economy car that costs about a 5th of what a ZR1 costs.
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Originally Posted by ub2slow2
$2,000 is what it costs for the free money? Let's see, that can be made in a very short time with $108,000 in stocks, mutual funds or in rent from real estate. Actually if you look at it very realistically you can probably make $20,000 or $25,000 while using their free money.

I bet if you asked 100 accountants or investment analysts if you should write a $108,000 check for a ZR1 or finance $110,000 at 0% for 7 years 100 of them would tell you to pay a little more for the car at 0% interest and put your cash to work. Actually they would probably tell you to go buy a Lancer lol
Because stocks always go up right. How the hell did our economy go into recession if everybody is making big money?
By the way, can you post pics of you ZR1 in 7 years, would love to see how the paint is holding up.
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Originally Posted by BT ZR1
I can put my money on the street and earn 10% per annum on a 100k = 10k per year x5 years = 50k less taxes , net 30k to me, less 2k for the "cost" of borrowing at zero = 28k in my pocket. What am i missing here?
I am missing how you are getting a 10% return-care to share
Old 04-28-2011, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by range96
You're missing the extra cost of paying the loan. You have to reduce your 100K seed money as you withdraw money from it to pay the loan (principal + interest).
I'm not undestanding what your trying to say, my bad

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Originally Posted by SLK1Z
Down right ignorant
I say that because most people cannot afford a ZR1 or equivalent... and you feel the need to bash them. You are the type that I love to embarrass with my "UGLY rice burner"... I have had a number of "UGLY rice burners" that could beat most Z06's and keep up to ZR1's except above 150
Either way, it would be nice for people to embrace the car culture in every form it comes in whether it be a Corvette, Mustang or Lancer...

my rant over.
Thank Goodness, cause never gonna happen.
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This is pretty cool actually...

We seem to have 2 completely different threads going here (or is it 3?) one of which is getting complicated to the point that I need to start forwarding posts to the lady that does my taxes so she can explain what's being said.

Is it Friday yet?
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Originally Posted by DebRedZR1GSVert
I am missing how you are getting a 10% return-care to share
Mortgages. I don't lend on Lancers


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