[Z06] Forum wars Viper vs Vette???
04-03-2011, 10:02 PM
#61
Drifting
I've known SW since high school. He has more autocross wins than the forum combined. Plus road racing, drag racing, etc.
He can drive.
His clutch did give up. I was at his house a few weeks ago and he now has an LS9 clutch. I can also assure anyone that his Z06 will trap faster than 114 mph.
What I found surprising was the ACR with mods only ran 11.8 at 125 mph in houston. My stock Z06 ran that in the thin air of phoenix.
He can drive.
His clutch did give up. I was at his house a few weeks ago and he now has an LS9 clutch. I can also assure anyone that his Z06 will trap faster than 114 mph.
What I found surprising was the ACR with mods only ran 11.8 at 125 mph in houston. My stock Z06 ran that in the thin air of phoenix.
With a very good launch the Viper would difinetly run mid 10 sec.@ 131+ mph, but then again the result is what it is.
04-04-2011, 01:04 AM
#62
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The Viper had the capability to do better but the driver launch was very bad and he lost alot because of his mishaps, his technique of launching the bad boy was a mistake causing him to delay for a few seconds with a bug and then playing catchup to a wounded Z06.
With a very good launch the Viper would difinetly run mid 10 sec.@ 131+ mph, but then again the result is what it is.
With a very good launch the Viper would difinetly run mid 10 sec.@ 131+ mph, but then again the result is what it is.
Oh yeah, I agree that the driver of the Viper had to baby it out of the hole b/c all the torque those bad boys make is hard to put down to the ground without a drag racing tire. As you know the Pilot Cups that the ACR come with from the factory are for road racing and have a harder sidewall than a drag radial, drag slick, etc.
Last edited by Mopar Jimmy; 04-04-2011 at 01:55 AM.
04-05-2011, 10:55 PM
#63
Drifting
Just saw this. For the record, I had not started/ driven my ZO6 in over a year. Been busy playing with other cars. I got the call to run, got a set of wheels and tires from CCW and loaded up my car and went. I had no idea my clutch was out until my first pass on the drag strip. As you can see in the Video, I killed him off the line in the first 2 gears, then total slip in 3rd& 4th. My car should trap in the 130's. I beat him in the auto-x but he did get me in the 7sec slalom. My clutch was not slipping in the slalom, I was.. 
Anyway, got back and put a LS9 clutch in it and all is good. I ran it at Motorsport Ranch Cresson and it kicked ***. Sorry I lost it for you guys, my fault for not testing before. As for the ACR, I would love to see him on a road course..
Anyway, got back and put a LS9 clutch in it and all is good. I ran it at Motorsport Ranch Cresson and it kicked ***. Sorry I lost it for you guys, my fault for not testing before. As for the ACR, I would love to see him on a road course..
Last edited by SW; 04-05-2011 at 11:01 PM.
04-06-2011, 03:07 AM
#65
Le Mans Master
My thought is if you have an issue "clutch" then you should have repaired it before you got there, I hope he didn't just plan to by or was over confident with a lame car. I hope this issue happened without any warning, the clutch issue caught him by surprise. It would have been interesting to see that race without the mechanical issues. The Z06 cam and headers would have made it a good race, and with the viper's terrible 60ft time the Z06 would have spanked him. Slalom I not sure what happened these cars handle great.
just as I thought I saw SW's post after I posted mine.
just as I thought I saw SW's post after I posted mine.
Last edited by Cloaked323; 04-06-2011 at 03:11 AM.
04-06-2011, 11:34 AM
#67
Drifting
A race is a race don't bring out a broken car then. There was plenty of notice to make sure the car was in order. Besides thats only 1 event out of 3. He managed to win the 2nd race what happened did the clutch fix itself.
Bottom line is the viper won like it or not.
PS. Turns out the viper was told to be on ps2's to be like the vette they were not on R compounds.
Bottom line is the viper won like it or not.
PS. Turns out the viper was told to be on ps2's to be like the vette they were not on R compounds.
Is it common in our cars to slip in 3rd or 4th? I have had clutch issues at the track but I know it right off the launch. Never had an issue in 3rd. When I watched the video I would have bet $ he missed 3rd gear. I think he misspoke about the clutch slipping in 3rd AND 4th. If he only trapped 114 he wouldnt have even made it to 4th.
Hopefully the drivers will chime in and give some more input on the show and how cool the experience was.
Hopefully the drivers will chime in and give some more input on the show and how cool the experience was.
Last edited by SW; 04-06-2011 at 11:37 AM.
04-06-2011, 02:03 PM
#69
Burning Brakes
Believe me when you look at how SW's vette (with cam) came out of the gate, if he was running an LS9 clutch the Viper wouldn't stand a chance.
I'm not saying the ACR is POS, and the Z06 is the better than anything out there, I'm saying that SW could probably represent quite a few different forums and hand him his *** anytime any day.
Chris Chow
I'm not saying the ACR is POS, and the Z06 is the better than anything out there, I'm saying that SW could probably represent quite a few different forums and hand him his *** anytime any day.
Chris Chow
04-06-2011, 02:08 PM
#70
Team Owner
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you don't understand much about clutches. I've had exactly that happen, as have many thousands of others. It's not at all unusual for a clutch to "glaze" and let go on a run, and 20 minutes later it works fine. I've had it happen more than once.
04-06-2011, 03:01 PM
#71
Le Mans Master
04-06-2011, 07:18 PM
#72
I love the Viper. But with the skill of the driver in the ACR, a properly functioning stock Z06 on R-Comp tires and a decent driver would have won this thing. Seriously.. But stock vs stock the ACR is a much better car without a doubt.
Anyways.. For a little while I went on some Viper forums and some of those guys really have some issues.. They love to talk everyone and everything down that isn't a Viper owner or a Viper. Viper Alley in general left a sour taste in my mouth.. Almost makes you not like the car because of some of the people that own them.
Anyways.. For a little while I went on some Viper forums and some of those guys really have some issues.. They love to talk everyone and everything down that isn't a Viper owner or a Viper. Viper Alley in general left a sour taste in my mouth.. Almost makes you not like the car because of some of the people that own them.
And that is a tainted win for the Viper. If the clutch didn't slip the outcome would have been different. It is what is. I was surprised how the Z destroyed the Viper off the line.
Last edited by Kurac; 04-06-2011 at 07:34 PM.
04-07-2011, 11:13 AM
#73
Safety Car
Just saw this. For the record, I had not started/ driven my ZO6 in over a year. Been busy playing with other cars. I got the call to run, got a set of wheels and tires from CCW and loaded up my car and went. I had no idea my clutch was out until my first pass on the drag strip. As you can see in the Video, I killed him off the line in the first 2 gears, then total slip in 3rd& 4th. My car should trap in the 130's. I beat him in the auto-x but he did get me in the 7sec slalom. My clutch was not slipping in the slalom, I was.. Anyway, got back and put a LS9 clutch in it and all is good. I ran it at Motorsport Ranch Cresson and it kicked ***. Sorry I lost it for you guys, my fault for not testing before. As for the ACR, I would love to see him on a road course..
Anyway, got back and put a LS9 clutch in it and all is good. I ran it at Motorsport Ranch Cresson and it kicked ***. Sorry I lost it for you guys, my fault for not testing before. As for the ACR, I would love to see him on a road course..
04-07-2011, 01:08 PM
#74
Le Mans Master
04-07-2011, 04:39 PM
#77
Le Mans Master
04-07-2011, 05:07 PM
#80
Safety Car