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Old 08-27-2010, 10:05 AM
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My buddy's bolt-on c6Z layed down 516rwhp and 493rwtq on a Tune Time Performance's stingy Mustang Dyno thru the stock gears.

This dyno typically reads 12.5% and 11.9% lower than the local dynojet and dyna-pak respectively.
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My Dads Z put down 498 running extremely hot, guys at the shop said it would of put down over 5 if it was a cooler day.
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Originally Posted by robz
My buddy's bolt-on c6Z layed down 516rwhp and 493rwtq on a Tune Time Performance's stingy Mustang Dyno thru the stock gears.

This dyno typically reads 12.5% and 11.9% lower than the local dynojet and dyna-pak respectively.

Wow thats AWESOME power. What mods?
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I think some people get stuck on the importance of dyno numbers. Any dyno operator can make any car read higher by manipulating the dyno. It makes the owner leave with a smile, but what does that actually mean? What is his mph in the quarter?
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That's awesome, but all dynos are different. I'm sure the car is a freak but to me the numbers don't mean anything beyond speculation. The facts come at the track!
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My car makes 1000HP on a dyno.

Peak dyno number's don't mean squat. Too easy to manipulate. They're a tuning tool, nothing more. No two dynos will read the same. I've seen my numbers all over the place depending on what dyno I use. The one my tuner uses is all that matters to gauge relative differences, and now I know of an area dyno that runs a little hot compared to Ragin' Racin's, but does that mean my car is actually making that much more power? Nope. Only thing that matters now is who gets to the finish line first.

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Originally Posted by 383vett
What is his mph in the quarter?

That's awesome, but all dynos are different. I'm sure the car is a freak but to me the numbers don't mean anything beyond speculation. The facts come at the track!
If those numbers are legit(using the %'s listed to convert to dynojet) then what mph do you expect this car to trap in the 1/4?

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Originally Posted by EViL427
My car makes 1000HP on a dyno.

Peak dyno number's don't mean squat. Too easy to manipulate. They're a tuning tool, nothing more. No two dynos will read the same. I've seen my numbers all over the place depending on what dyno I use. The one my tuner uses is all that matters to gauge relative differences, and now I know of an area dyno that runs a little hot compared to Ragin' Racin's, but does that mean my car is actually making that much more power? Nope. Only thing that matters now is who gets to the finish line first.


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I think some people get stuck on the importance of dyno numbers. Any dyno operator can make any car read higher by manipulating the dyno. It makes the owner leave with a smile, but what does that actually mean? What is his mph in the quarter?
I was operating the dyno.
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Hey rob. What boltons? Hey you fishing this weekend? If you need a rider let me know.
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Hey rob. What boltons? Hey you fishing this weekend? If you need a rider let me know.
Not this weekend but maybe next friday. I'll let you know.

I don't know all the mods, I'll let him chime in tonight.
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Originally Posted by robz
I was operating the dyno.
Still makes no difference. Only thing that will matter is if you ran every car in the nation on your dyno under the same conditions.
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Originally Posted by jeffreystar
That's awesome, but all dynos are different. I'm sure the car is a freak but to me the numbers don't mean anything beyond speculation. The facts come at the track!
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My car makes 1000HP on a dyno.

Peak dyno number's don't mean squat. Too easy to manipulate. They're a tuning tool, nothing more. No two dynos will read the same. I've seen my numbers all over the place depending on what dyno I use. The one my tuner uses is all that matters to gauge relative differences, and now I know of an area dyno that runs a little hot compared to Ragin' Racin's, but does that mean my car is actually making that much more power? Nope. Only thing that matters now is who gets to the finish line first.

Originally Posted by 383vett
I think some people get stuck on the importance of dyno numbers. Any dyno operator can make any car read higher by manipulating the dyno. It makes the owner leave with a smile, but what does that actually mean? What is his mph in the quarter?
Or what ET and MPH do you expect this car to run?

Maybe something for him to shoot for.
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Originally Posted by robz
Or what ET and MPH do you expect this car to run?

Maybe something for him to shoot for.
Again, speculative. Depends on driver, tires, weather conditions, track conditions.

Yes, I am the Devil's Advocate.

My car should run mid 10s at over 135MPH. Doesn't mean that *I* can run mid 10s.
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Originally Posted by EViL427
Still makes no difference. Only thing that will matter is if you ran every car in the nation on your dyno under the same conditions.
I don't have a dyno.
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Originally Posted by EViL427
Again, speculative. Depends on driver, tires, weather conditions, track conditions.

Yes, I am the Devil's Advocate.
It's ok to speculate.
Assume good driver, good weather, good track conditions.

What et and mph do you predict?

Being a friend of the Devil you can guess high.

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Originally Posted by EViL427

My car should run mid 10s at over 135MPH. Doesn't mean that *I* can run mid 10s.
*I'd* be upset if it didn't.
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Originally Posted by robz
I don't have a dyno.
But you ran the dyno, silly. Run the dyno some more on all of our cars, then you'll have meaningful data.

That's why I like dyno days. Get to see a lot of cars and see how they compare to one another on the same dyno, same day.

Same goes for the track. Cars will run faster down here at Baytown than they would in Denver. So everything is relative.

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Originally Posted by EViL427
But you ran the dyno, silly. Run the dyno some more on all of our cars, then you'll have meaningful data.

That's why I like dyno days. Get to see a lot of cars and see how they compare to one another on the same dyno, same day.

Same goes for the track. Cars will run faster down here at Baytown than they would in Denver. So everything is relative.
I don't run dynos for a living.

It was mentioned that I ran the dyno because some were suggesting that shop owners manipulate #'s to make customers feel all warm n fuzzy. I was simply taking that variable out of the equation.
Silly me.

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Originally Posted by EViL427
But you ran the dyno, silly. Run the dyno some more on all of our cars, then you'll have meaningful data.

That's why I like dyno days. Get to see a lot of cars and see how they compare to one another on the same dyno, same day.

Same goes for the track. Cars will run faster down here at Baytown than they would in Denver. So everything is relative.
Why not speculate and give this guy some track times to shoot for?

If he's making similar power to your car, can I assume that you would expect his car to run 10.5 @ 135?

Maybe hat can be a goal for him?
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Originally Posted by EViL427

That's why I like dyno days. Get to see a lot of cars and see how they compare to one another on the same dyno, same day.

Same goes for the track. Cars will run faster down here at Baytown than they would in Denver. So everything is relative.
Good idea.


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