GARY2004Z06

I personally do not believe a rocker change is a Bolt-On. However, that's only one opinion. The drivetrain is unaltered. I still have my OEM heated driver's seat. I weigh in at 260 lbs. Need to shed a couple pounds to eek out every hundrenth.

robz

Yes.
Stock rockers only.
We have yet to run at cecil. I always heard great things about that track but I also heard that in recent years the prep has suffered due to one of the key track maintenance guys leaving.

Pontiaker

Dont know why you would think they are not, has always been a simple bolt on from old musclecars to the new stuff....

GARY2004Z06

When looking at the C6Z Fast List, I felt that this would constitute an internal engine mod but I never asked for clarification.

Bolt-Ons without Internal Engine Modification (e.g. modified airpath, headers, PCM-tune, aftermarket clutch, non-stock rear gears, skinny front tires)

Internal Engine Mods plus Bolt-Ons (e.g. stock displacement 427 with bolt-ons plus heads and/or cam)

I once learned something the hard way when I had my C5Z. I ran an 11.98 with my stock C5Z including its OEM tires but I had used a drop in K&N filter (not a CAI). I was informed that this would qualify as a Bolt-On so I proceeded to reinstall an OEM air filter. I was able to run an 11.84 as Bonestock. So much for those drop in air filters.

04_Z06_CE

best way to figure out that hp is legit ( not calling you out at all) buuuuut is to simply run another similarly equipped z06 off a role ...easy way to tell .

04_Z06_CE

rockers help..period

joe11204

Gary is well respected and well know in the C5 & C6 community. He is number 1 on the C6Z Bolt On fast list. Why does he need to prove anything to you? What is this scientific ROLL race test you speak of?

His car continues to progress with quicker et's while always sticking to the original plan. There are many friends, vendors and tuners who have contributed to his success and progress.
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Pontiaker

Well there's the problem, I could give a **** what the C6Z fast list thinks, but I dont! Drop in air filters are not bolt ons and bolt on rocker changes with non roller to roller or diff ratio are bolt ons. You get a bunch of new to fast car guys making judgment calls on stupid little stuff like this that maybe should stick to online forum racing instead of guys that have been doing it for 25 years plus,on the track, before the internet, wrenching to make a pay check, etc........Geeze!

GARY2004Z06

I won't disagree with you but we enjoy the challenge of making the most out of a car within a given set of parameters. We do employ outside the box thinking along with old school axioms to make it work. The track is the only place where reality meets theory.

robz

We already know the rwhp.

robz

Since I started drag racing for fun about 5-6 years ago changing rockers didn't fit into the bolt-on categories on the boards. Not to say that is the right way of doing things but you have to make some cutoffs and it's just one way of looking at things. There is certainly some power to gain with different ratios and stability at high rpms by changing up the valvetrain. We're just having fun trying to fit in. I agree that the best way to learn is to take advice from, and pay close attention to, the old scool racers.

dohc00vtec

^^Me wanna learn from the gurus... Any good forums or members wanting to give advice to a rookie ?

DOHC

JohnnyLS7

is my Vortec V-2 SQ T-Trim considered a bolt on????

joe11204

I'm pretty sure it's a bolt on.

And it's pretty quick..

JohnnyLS7

holy cow thats me passing u on the right....

joe11204

Yes it is..


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JohnnyLS7

i remember u next to me... i actually stalled out after i jumped out infront of the tree.... i couldnt launch my car for ****.....

joe11204

Gary and Rob Z were helping you out that day with that Procharged beast you were driving. You made major improvements in just a few passes. Kudos to you


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JohnnyLS7

thanks Joe, i really appreciated the help, they are an awesome bunch of guys.... i look fwd to seeing them again in oct.... maybe ull go too???

joe11204

You got that right. The whole crew is a always ready to lend a fellow racer a hand. Listen to their advice. They know what they are talking about. I followed Gary's advice down to the letter. Got me in the Fast list with a C6Z running 10.948 with only a CAI and Drag Radials.

My F2R Procharged 02Z is getting assembled now. I should be ready for Oct and then MIR2 in November. Regardless, if my car isn't done I will be there to handle the video.


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