[Z06] 2010's Out Yet
08-02-2009, 11:58 AM
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2010's Out Yet
Are the 10's Z06's available yet? I am very interested in hearing about the new lauch control electronics.
08-02-2009, 11:40 PM
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When Motor Trend tested the new Camaro SS .. they tried the launch control on that. Their test results were slower by .3 -.5 with the launch control..... IMO it's another useless gadget. But I suppose it would be consistent.... even if it is consistently worse.
For instance the Nissan GTR no longer uses a launch control. It was breaking the driveline. I think for GM to set it up for best launch, it would be hard on the driveline.... so they keep it less aggressive.
For instance the Nissan GTR no longer uses a launch control. It was breaking the driveline. I think for GM to set it up for best launch, it would be hard on the driveline.... so they keep it less aggressive.
08-03-2009, 07:53 AM
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When Motor Trend tested the new Camaro SS .. they tried the launch control on that. Their test results were slower by .3 -.5 with the launch control..... IMO it's another useless gadget. But I suppose it would be consistent.... even if it is consistently worse.
For instance the Nissan GTR no longer uses a launch control. It was breaking the driveline. I think for GM to set it up for best launch, it would be hard on the driveline.... so they keep it less aggressive.
For instance the Nissan GTR no longer uses a launch control. It was breaking the driveline. I think for GM to set it up for best launch, it would be hard on the driveline.... so they keep it less aggressive.
You can't equate what happened with Nissan to what is going to happen with our vettes. Two very different means of power transmission.
So, same question....are the 10's available yet?
08-03-2009, 08:03 AM
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The Camaro is not the Z06. F1 went to launch control several years back as did Ferrari for precisely the opposite reason - it was faster, and more consistent, than what you realized without it. Remember, you already have torque management built in to the PCM which reduces torque unless you choose to override this parameter with a tune and run the substantial risk of losing your warranty.
You can't equate what happened with Nissan to what is going to happen with our vettes. Two very different means of power transmission.
So, same question....are the 10's available yet?
You can't equate what happened with Nissan to what is going to happen with our vettes. Two very different means of power transmission.
So, same question....are the 10's available yet?
08-03-2009, 11:06 AM
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The Camaro is not the Z06. F1 went to launch control several years back as did Ferrari for precisely the opposite reason - it was faster, and more consistent, than what you realized without it. Remember, you already have torque management built in to the PCM which reduces torque unless you choose to override this parameter with a tune and run the substantial risk of losing your warranty.
You can't equate what happened with Nissan to what is going to happen with our vettes. Two very different means of power transmission.
So, same question....are the 10's available yet?
You can't equate what happened with Nissan to what is going to happen with our vettes. Two very different means of power transmission.
So, same question....are the 10's available yet?
08-03-2009, 12:07 PM
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The 10's are coming - look on Kerbecks web site ( http://kerbeck.com/kerbeck/kerbeck.n...ette_inventory )looks like there's a ton of them in bound.
My question is will there be a discount on the 10's like they have on the 09's.
My M6 has launch control and it works really well because of the SMG transmission. It's either launch control or stab the throttle from idle.
Have you seen this video of LC? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1zrJq6u7vc
My question is will there be a discount on the 10's like they have on the 09's.
My M6 has launch control and it works really well because of the SMG transmission. It's either launch control or stab the throttle from idle.
Have you seen this video of LC? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1zrJq6u7vc
08-03-2009, 02:11 PM
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The 10's are coming - look on Kerbecks web site ( http://kerbeck.com/kerbeck/kerbeck.n...ette_inventory )looks like there's a ton of them in bound.
My question is will there be a discount on the 10's like they have on the 09's.
My M6 has launch control and it works really well because of the SMG transmission. It's either launch control or stab the throttle from idle.
Have you seen this video of LC? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1zrJq6u7vc
My question is will there be a discount on the 10's like they have on the 09's.
My M6 has launch control and it works really well because of the SMG transmission. It's either launch control or stab the throttle from idle.
Have you seen this video of LC? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1zrJq6u7vc
08-03-2009, 02:18 PM
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GM even demonstrated a proper human launch in a Z06 will be faster then the LC engaged during the video presentation. To answer your question about avalibility just ask a dealer like Kerbeck, they would know if you can place an order for one or if there are any on the way. My guess is you'll start seeing them shortly.
I'd wager you could count the guys on this forum that could duplicate GM's 3.6 on one hand. I know I certainly couldn't,not with any kind of consistency. The Z06 is not an easy car to launch.
08-03-2009, 03:59 PM
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Sense this thread is already somewhat off topic...What happens with launch control plus the dirty clutch fluid issue? Most owners will not know to chance the clutch fluid as often as will probably be needed no?
08-03-2009, 09:58 PM
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Yes by .1 seconds........and that was their best driver with his best effort. The LC can duplicate it's time over & over & over.......
I'd wager you could count the guys on this forum that could duplicate GM's 3.6 on one hand. I know I certainly couldn't,not with any kind of consistency. The Z06 is not an easy car to launch.
I'd wager you could count the guys on this forum that could duplicate GM's 3.6 on one hand. I know I certainly couldn't,not with any kind of consistency. The Z06 is not an easy car to launch.
Just look to the fast list.. I know I have done several 0 to 60 mph below 3.6 on my G-Tech timer.. Last I checked I am no pro driver. And... I am only #6 on the stock list.
I will not argue on consistency though, no question the LC should be repeatable run after run!!!
08-05-2009, 03:49 AM
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GM even demonstrated a proper human launch in a Z06 will be faster then the LC engaged during the video presentation. To answer your question about avalibility just ask a dealer like Kerbeck, they would know if you can place an order for one or if there are any on the way. My guess is you'll start seeing them shortly.
I also happen to be one of those people who doesn't practice launches, but rather would have an electronic means to safely and consistently get my car moving.
08-06-2009, 10:20 AM
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08-09-2009, 11:07 AM
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Check this vid out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9wRW-Ysxck it explains LC pretty well and compares it to 3 other launches in a Z06- one where they bog the car off the line and hits 60 in 4.2, the next cooks the rears, then GMs pro driver gets a 3.6 time to 60 and finally LC gets 3.65.
08-09-2009, 12:37 PM
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They should be available. I picked up my '09 on 8/1/08, and could have taken delivery of another one in July but I didn't like that deal.