[ZR1] Why are C6 Z06 owners so jealous?
10-13-2008, 03:31 PM
#101
Melting Slicks
I just love it! All you z06 guys have been downing the regular c6 guys since the z06 came out and saying that even a moded c6 can never compare to a stock z06. Now that the tables are turned the z06 guys are saying that $20k spent on a stock z06 will produce a way better car than a zr1 . Lets just face it buying a used c6 and doing major mods to it will produce a car that out everytings a z06 and zr1 and can be done for half the cost of both of them.
10-13-2008, 03:36 PM
#102
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I am jealous. Cars. Houses. Women. Money. Stock portfolio. Airplanes. Just plain jealous.
I love the C5Z, the C6Z, the C4 ZR1, the C6ZR1, classic vettes; just jealous of them all.
Thank goodness I'll be getting a lightly used c5Z this weekend, as I have been going into sports car withdrawal since I sold my '03C5Z and I've been so darn JEALOUS!
I love the C5Z, the C6Z, the C4 ZR1, the C6ZR1, classic vettes; just jealous of them all.
Thank goodness I'll be getting a lightly used c5Z this weekend, as I have been going into sports car withdrawal since I sold my '03C5Z and I've been so darn JEALOUS!
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10-13-2008, 04:00 PM
#103
Drifting
Why are zo6 buyers jealous of the zr1
I can say from my Heart I am EXTREMELY JEALOUS...As I have said here on Many Occassions My Vette days go back to 1965.
Some 50 odd Vettes Later I am always wanting the new Vette on the Block.....I thought maybe this time it wouldn't happen and I bought a 2009 ZO6 in Cyber Grey...I wasn't even out the Door of Kerbeck and I wanted one of those 2 ZR1s on the Showroom Floor...well couldn't have either and Here I WAIT......WHY well in all these Vette Purchase I NEVER NEVER paid over Sticker (Was tempted on many Occassions) and I refuse to give in to my Promise...I will wait it out and Hopefully it won't be long till I can Place that order...Any Dealer out there ready to take me up on it?????
Some 50 odd Vettes Later I am always wanting the new Vette on the Block.....I thought maybe this time it wouldn't happen and I bought a 2009 ZO6 in Cyber Grey...I wasn't even out the Door of Kerbeck and I wanted one of those 2 ZR1s on the Showroom Floor...well couldn't have either and Here I WAIT......WHY well in all these Vette Purchase I NEVER NEVER paid over Sticker (Was tempted on many Occassions) and I refuse to give in to my Promise...I will wait it out and Hopefully it won't be long till I can Place that order...Any Dealer out there ready to take me up on it?????
10-13-2008, 04:06 PM
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10-13-2008, 04:15 PM
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I am noticing a trend with some of the C6 Z06 owners! The word is "jealously".
jealous-
1 a: intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness b: disposed to suspect rivalry or unfaithfulness
2: hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage
3: vigilant in guarding a possession <new colonies were jealous of their new independence — Scott Buchanan>
— jeal·ous·ly adverb
— jeal·ous·ness noun
It's still a Corvette guys. Face the facts. It will out handle you, out brake you, and simple out gun you.
The only way around the acceleration is to mod your car. There is not much you can do about the braking, or the handling.
Your C6 Z06 is still a bad *** car, but the new kid on the block has arrived! This sort of thing happens in the car industry.
jealous-
1 a: intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness b: disposed to suspect rivalry or unfaithfulness
2: hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage
3: vigilant in guarding a possession <new colonies were jealous of their new independence — Scott Buchanan>
— jeal·ous·ly adverb
— jeal·ous·ness noun
It's still a Corvette guys. Face the facts. It will out handle you, out brake you, and simple out gun you.
The only way around the acceleration is to mod your car. There is not much you can do about the braking, or the handling.
Your C6 Z06 is still a bad *** car, but the new kid on the block has arrived! This sort of thing happens in the car industry.
Yawn...
I think I figured it out. Most people who have owned their Z06's for a few years now realize the value of paying twice as much for a ZR1 just isn't there. Tell me 1 thing that I can't go put on my Z06 to match the ZR1(and do it for waaay less than the base price of the ZR1)? Basically all one needs to do is add a big brake kit and coil-overs and different tires. Getting the HP is easy. Hell I have 780hp and my car still has the factory exhaust, cats and is 100% smog legal...oh yeah I've had numerous issues taken care of under warranty at the dealer as well...so what's your point?
You can also mod a ZR1...great more hp...but we've already figured out that easy to get in a Z06. It's not like you guys can go put better Brakes or Suspension(than what it already has) on it and whoop up on a Z06...its the same F'ing platform.
And as far as Z owners making fun of C6 owners...that ones funny because I actually believe most Z06 owners should have a regular C6 as it probably more car then they know what to do with anyway...this is even more so for ZR1 owners. Bottom-line is enjoy which ever platform you have. ZR1 owners quit trying to justify the dollars you spent...you have a great car that if it gets killed off becasue of economic/CAFE reasons it will be even more exclusive. Go to bed feeling good about your purchase but don't be Butt-Hurt the day you pull up to a light/drag track or Road Race course and get your *** handed to you by a modded out Z06. If someone did it to me in a std C6 I'd give them props as they have a Bad *** car! In the end we're all motorsport enthusiasts and should celebrate anyones ride no matter the brand or number of wheels it has! ;-)
Chad
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10-13-2008, 05:03 PM
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ZR-1 is the real deal. Love the C.F. on car. Especially in BLACK color. Seriously, if its not too late to change your order ..... cancel and order the Black, with red interior.
We had two on showroom floor. One in Cybergray and the Black. The black was everyones favorite.
Also ... that hood window needs to go. It only subtracts from car's looks.
We had two on showroom floor. One in Cybergray and the Black. The black was everyones favorite.
Also ... that hood window needs to go. It only subtracts from car's looks.
10-13-2008, 05:15 PM
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I'm not jealous but I'm a bit envious as I didn't get my car after waiting for 3 years. But, good things come to those who wait. I'll get mine after the first of the year when I get one for MSRP or less and don't have to pay 2009 property taxes. Until then, I'll settle for driving my C6Z (stock) and my C5Z (402 CID twin turbo).
10-13-2008, 05:34 PM
#109
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I'm not jealous but I'm a bit envious as I didn't get my car after waiting for 3 years. But, good things come to those who wait. I'll get mine after the first of the year when I get one for MSRP or less and don't have to pay 2009 property taxes. Until then, I'll settle for driving my C6Z (stock) and my C5Z (402 CID twin turbo).
10-13-2008, 09:07 PM
#110
Burning Brakes
I disagree with the mod argument.
I just have a hard time spending over MSRP to be the first on the block. I will get mine in 2-3 years at or below- just like I did with the c6Zo6. It is a great car and next step in the evolution of the Corvette.
I just think GM missed an opportunity to create a true supercar as far as looks. Anyone besides true car enthusiasts will not be able to tell a ZR-1 from a base corvette. There is a reason Ford GTs are still a hot ticket.
I just have a hard time spending over MSRP to be the first on the block. I will get mine in 2-3 years at or below- just like I did with the c6Zo6. It is a great car and next step in the evolution of the Corvette.
I just think GM missed an opportunity to create a true supercar as far as looks. Anyone besides true car enthusiasts will not be able to tell a ZR-1 from a base corvette. There is a reason Ford GTs are still a hot ticket.
10-13-2008, 09:34 PM
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GM wasn't trying to build some new fancy super car. They were trying to build the ultimate vette which they did. I would be disappointed if it didn't look like one.
Secondly the modded z06 argument is just wrong. You can't modded a z06 to match a zr1 and still save money. GM may be hemorrhaging money but they still have a huge economies of scale advantage over a private owner. Add up the cost of the mods (power, suspension, tires, wheels, brakes etc), labor, warranty, driving school and you could have bought a zr1. I love the z06, but it has been replaced as top vette as every media review of the zr1 attests to.
I don't think any z06 owner should be jealous, but lets not spread a bunch of false rumors that the zr1 isn't that or special or fast or blah blah blah
Secondly the modded z06 argument is just wrong. You can't modded a z06 to match a zr1 and still save money. GM may be hemorrhaging money but they still have a huge economies of scale advantage over a private owner. Add up the cost of the mods (power, suspension, tires, wheels, brakes etc), labor, warranty, driving school and you could have bought a zr1. I love the z06, but it has been replaced as top vette as every media review of the zr1 attests to.
I don't think any z06 owner should be jealous, but lets not spread a bunch of false rumors that the zr1 isn't that or special or fast or blah blah blah
10-13-2008, 10:12 PM
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GM wasn't trying to build some new fancy super car. They were trying to build the ultimate vette which they did. I would be disappointed if it didn't look like one.
Secondly the modded z06 argument is just wrong. You can't modded a z06 to match a zr1 and still save money. GM may be hemorrhaging money but they still have a huge economies of scale advantage over a private owner. Add up the cost of the mods (power, suspension, tires, wheels, brakes etc), labor, warranty, driving school and you could have bought a zr1. I love the z06, but it has been replaced as top vette as every media review of the zr1 attests to.
I don't think any z06 owner should be jealous, but lets not spread a bunch of false rumors that the zr1 isn't that or special or fast or blah blah blah
Secondly the modded z06 argument is just wrong. You can't modded a z06 to match a zr1 and still save money. GM may be hemorrhaging money but they still have a huge economies of scale advantage over a private owner. Add up the cost of the mods (power, suspension, tires, wheels, brakes etc), labor, warranty, driving school and you could have bought a zr1. I love the z06, but it has been replaced as top vette as every media review of the zr1 attests to.
I don't think any z06 owner should be jealous, but lets not spread a bunch of false rumors that the zr1 isn't that or special or fast or blah blah blah
10-13-2008, 11:11 PM
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No worries. There is quite a difference between opinion with a culturally valued moral versus actually looking a way of thinking rooted only in one's histrionic imperitives. For most its likely clear which one was which.
Probably didnt care for the analogy, eh? Not a problem, I am sure some neighborhood kids will give you the respect you're lookin for once you get that new ride
Seriously though, I think everyone here loves most any car. But it'd never be realistic to have everyone agree on priorities.
10-14-2008, 12:02 AM
#116
Melting Slicks
No worries. There is quite a difference between opinion with a culturally valued moral versus actually looking a way of thinking rooted only in one's histrionic imperitives. For most its likely clear which one was which.
Probably didnt care for the analogy, eh? Not a problem, I am sure some neighborhood kids will give you the respect you're lookin for once you get that new ride
Seriously though, I think everyone here loves most any car. But it'd never be realistic to have everyone agree on priorities.
Why not go back and read it.
You might again amaze yourself.
You cannot respond to a single post without being the poster child for what was said.
And as was said many times by others.......
You know you want one too!
Simply admit it; Don't worry. You'll be fine.
Marty
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10-14-2008, 06:16 AM
#117
Safety Car
I can afford a ZR-1, but I'm shopping for a Z06 instead.
-I think the Z06 looks better. Don't care for the clear hood or cf roof, or the front gills on the ZR-1.
-I would rather have the LS7 cubes than the LS3 cubes
-My previous C6 made a little more power than the ZR-1 does, it also had a roots blower.
Don't get me wrong, I think the ZR-1 is an exceptional car for a factory built vehicle, but the Z06 is just more appealing to me overall.
Tony
-I think the Z06 looks better. Don't care for the clear hood or cf roof, or the front gills on the ZR-1.
-I would rather have the LS7 cubes than the LS3 cubes
-My previous C6 made a little more power than the ZR-1 does, it also had a roots blower.
Don't get me wrong, I think the ZR-1 is an exceptional car for a factory built vehicle, but the Z06 is just more appealing to me overall.
Tony
10-14-2008, 07:44 AM
#118
Melting Slicks
I can afford a ZR-1, but I'm shopping for a Z06 instead.
-I think the Z06 looks better. Don't care for the clear hood or cf roof, or the front gills on the ZR-1.
-I would rather have the LS7 cubes than the LS3 cubes
-My previous C6 made a little more power than the ZR-1 does, it also had a roots blower.
Don't get me wrong, I think the ZR-1 is an exceptional car for a factory built vehicle, but the Z06 is just more appealing to me overall.
Tony
-I think the Z06 looks better. Don't care for the clear hood or cf roof, or the front gills on the ZR-1.
-I would rather have the LS7 cubes than the LS3 cubes
-My previous C6 made a little more power than the ZR-1 does, it also had a roots blower.
Don't get me wrong, I think the ZR-1 is an exceptional car for a factory built vehicle, but the Z06 is just more appealing to me overall.
Tony
Many are " so hooked", they just want both!
Certainly a C6 with a blower would be a welcome and cherished item under the Christmas tree!
Now if an 09 ZR1 were next to it..... GAME OVER!
Enjoy them all!
Marty
10-14-2008, 09:54 AM
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It's still a Corvette guys. Face the facts. It will out handle you, out brake you, and simple out gun you.
The only way around the acceleration is to mod your car. There is not much you can do about the braking, or the handling.
Your C6 Z06 is still a bad *** car, but the new kid on the block has arrived! This sort of thing happens in the car industry.
The only way around the acceleration is to mod your car. There is not much you can do about the braking, or the handling.
Your C6 Z06 is still a bad *** car, but the new kid on the block has arrived! This sort of thing happens in the car industry.
The one thing you got right is stock for stock the ZR1 outperforms the Z06. When you get into modding you open up a whole new ballgame and the ZR1 is a great car. Is it worth twice the price at todays market values? Not a chance.
10-14-2008, 09:57 AM
#120
Melting Slicks
Until mag ride becomes an option for the Z06, this is a clear point of superiority over the Z06...modded or not.