[ZR1] Car and Driver could only manage a 11.5@128?
10-09-2008, 11:34 PM
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Car and Driver could only manage a 11.5@128?
They also could only manage a 12.6@116 for the CTS-V.
Obviously they aren't used to the cars yet and can't get the power down.
Dan
Obviously they aren't used to the cars yet and can't get the power down.
Dan
10-10-2008, 01:30 PM
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) where have you been all these years? I never go by what the rags post anyway. People who quote rag times usually are the ones who have never raced a car on an actual track.
10-10-2008, 03:44 PM
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10-10-2008, 03:55 PM
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Car and Driver should consult with RANGER and have him drive the dang thing... At least they could publish some real figures... If RANGER got, I think 11.2 with stock tires then I would say 10.8-10.9 could be reality. Its tough to get a powerful car out of the hole correctly and thats where C&D fails in camparision..
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If you expect them to spent a large amount of time to get the absolute best time imagineable out of a car (including bringing in an "expert"), it's only fair to do that for every car. They don't have time for that.
10-10-2008, 07:45 PM
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10-10-2008, 11:18 PM
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Where did they run it?????????????
Historically C & D makes their run on an old air strip in Southern California--under their belief in 'real world' street conditions, using a measured quarter mile--it is dusty a good deal of the time which does limit traction (again they do NOT use a preped drag strip track to make their runs).
They never print the recorded numbers but 'corrected' numbers...ie they take into account the altitude for the track,outside temp, track temp etc and come up with a computer generated number...they do this as they sometimes uses different roads around the country at different times of the year, weather, different temps etc.
So you NEVER READ THE ACTUALLY NUMBER BUT A 'CORRECTED' NUMBER that only exists in their computer....
Historically C & D makes their run on an old air strip in Southern California--under their belief in 'real world' street conditions, using a measured quarter mile--it is dusty a good deal of the time which does limit traction (again they do NOT use a preped drag strip track to make their runs).
They never print the recorded numbers but 'corrected' numbers...ie they take into account the altitude for the track,outside temp, track temp etc and come up with a computer generated number...they do this as they sometimes uses different roads around the country at different times of the year, weather, different temps etc.
So you NEVER READ THE ACTUALLY NUMBER BUT A 'CORRECTED' NUMBER that only exists in their computer....
10-10-2008, 11:48 PM
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10-11-2008, 01:29 AM
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Car and Driver should consult with RANGER and have him drive the dang thing... At least they could publish some real figures... If RANGER got, I think 11.2 with stock tires then I would say 10.8-10.9 could be reality. Its tough to get a powerful car out of the hole correctly and thats where C&D fails in camparision..
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10-11-2008, 03:13 AM
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Car and driver consistently runs 11.7- 11.8 sec. for a stock Z and the 0-100mph time is only a tenth slower. (7.6 compared 7.7). They also clocked the same 0-60 time for the Z06 in the DEC. 05' issue.(3.4 sec). I was around a bunch of engine builders last night and they say that a forced induction engine always needs a chunk more horsepower just because of how it's delivered in the rev range to equal a NA engine. You won't see any car mags with lower times than C&D. So figure that the ZR1 is .2-.3 on average quicker than the Z in the quarter. Looks like just a couple of bolt-ons should have the Z06 running right with the ZR1.
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10-11-2008, 05:44 PM
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Car and Driver should consult with RANGER and have him drive the dang thing... At least they could publish some real figures... If RANGER got, I think 11.2 with stock tires then I would say 10.8-10.9 could be reality. Its tough to get a powerful car out of the hole correctly and thats where C&D fails in camparision..
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10-11-2008, 05:51 PM
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Car and driver consistently runs 11.7- 11.8 sec. for a stock Z and the 0-100mph time is only a tenth slower. (7.6 compared 7.7). They also clocked the same 0-60 time for the Z06 in the DEC. 05' issue.(3.4 sec). I was around a bunch of engine builders last night and they say that a forced induction engine always needs a chunk more horsepower just because of how it's delivered in the rev range to equal a NA engine. You won't see any car mags with lower times than C&D. So figure that the ZR1 is .2-.3 on average quicker than the Z in the quarter. Looks like just a couple of bolt-ons should have the Z06 running right with the ZR1.
The guys name is Jamie Furman and he ran 10.82 with drag radials and 10.9 on Street tires with his Z06.
Dan
10-11-2008, 06:22 PM
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Motor Trend got 11.5@127 out of a Z06. As much as I love the Z06, the above comment sounds like wishful thinking, The ZR1 should Obliterate a Z06 and when Motor Trend Tests it my Guess is 11.2@131.
The guys name is Jamie Furman and he ran 10.82 with drag radials and 10.9 on Street tires with his Z06.
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The guys name is Jamie Furman and he ran 10.82 with drag radials and 10.9 on Street tires with his Z06.
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10-11-2008, 07:44 PM
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These writers for the car mags are mainly just enthusiasts like most of us. Some are not too swift at getting the most out of cars they test(maybe most of them). Takes either a professional or an experienced amateur to normally get it done.
10-11-2008, 10:06 PM
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Exactly, people dont understand that those 10 second times from both guys in no way represent typical 1/4 times for a C6Z06, those runs were made at the same track(fastest track in the nation) with optimal everything, included with drivers that are very experienced at the drag's
10-12-2008, 04:07 AM
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Car and driver consistently runs 11.7- 11.8 sec. for a stock Z and the 0-100mph time is only a tenth slower. (7.6 compared 7.7). They also clocked the same 0-60 time for the Z06 in the DEC. 05' issue.(3.4 sec). I was around a bunch of engine builders last night and they say that a forced induction engine always needs a chunk more horsepower just because of how it's delivered in the rev range to equal a NA engine. You won't see any car mags with lower times than C&D. So figure that the ZR1 is .2-.3 on average quicker than the Z in the quarter. Looks like just a couple of bolt-ons should have the Z06 running right with the ZR1.