LS WON

The CAD CTS-V is the one to get
The regular CTS probably has alot softer ride along with alot less performance.

RedRckC5

My brother and I both have 93 Typhoons. His is white and mine is black. Surprised quite a few people. The Trans Am was one bad a$$ car!

proexpert

My wife's 2008 CTS is far better in quality than my 2004 Z06. That CTS is a great car, even with the AWD and 304 hp V6, it moves along very well. For me, it seems GM's quality is getting better not worse.

bodak1

I have a 2007 STS V and it is an awesome car. Gobs of power. 13.4 and 106 on the dragstrip. The new CTS V looks very interesting and if I did have the STSV I would probably have that.

5abivt

There are direct injected v-6s making well over 300 hp. Thats nothing to laugh at. The c5 was supposed be out in 93. never happened due to budget constraints. Looks like theyre in a tight situation and things will change for the better soon as bush is out.

vcrz

keep the longer and see what happens.

vcrz

Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races. Big cubes = torque, little cubes = super high RPm to make power and no torque (M3) or add forced air = turbo lag, no fun

slgz06

Yeah, no fun....unless you know how to drive.

And torque wins races? Please stop the silliness.

Let's see: a current F1 car makes about 275 ft/lbs of torque. It does 0-120 mph in UNDER 4 secs. Yeah, I guess your big torque engine would kick it's ***.

Disclaimer: I still want a ZR1!

bodak1

Reading thru this thread, I'm surprised many of the commentators are even reading this-this is a corvette forum.* The start of the thread was not a slam against V-6's per se-especially if that has been the history of the model.* The cyclones, typhoon's and grand nationals were great.* You can get big horsepower out of almost any engine. BUT, you cannot replicate the sound of a V8 engine with anything other than a V8 engine.* For many of us, that is a big part of what we like about our Corvettes, regardless of whether it is putting out 250 hp, or 600 hp.I have a 1990 600 hp ZR-1.* also a stock 2000 convertible.* Both have a great sound.* I have on order, without knowledge that it will come to fruition a new ZR1 (and no trade in's!).* If a new Corvette is produced in 2013 that does not have a V8, then i can guarantee you these will be the last Corvettes I will own-I don't care how fast the new one's might be!And if you think Obama is the salvation to our economic future, Lord help us all.

34RedRage

[ If a new Corvette is produced in 2013 that does not have a V8, then i can guarantee you these will be the last Corvettes I will own-I don't care how fast the new one's might be!And if you think Obama is the salvation to our economic future, Lord help us all.[/QUOTE]

vcrz

however, the V6 is only a possibility for the entry level Corvette. . . . but I still think it's "wrong"

Bigbucks

Yup, that's for sure. I voted for him TWICE. I was an idiot, taken in by a DOOFUS.

Anomir

I am so bloody sick of the bs with people blaming Bush, I cannot stand him, but get real. The big spending of ALL the politicians on both sides are the problem. And, this is not the correct part of the forum for political bs anyway.

I almost hope you liberals get your way, then we can live in the USA Socialist Republic and see how you like that...

am124es2

AMEN

RBK

A true story. World 1 like Iraq was funded by debt. Not taking a position on should we or should we not have invaded Iraq, just how it is paid for. During WWII we were in debt, but to our selves through the sale of bonds. Today, we owe $10 trillion to forien countries in charge of our future. You know the saying that those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it. Hitler care out of Germany when a basketfull of cash could not buy a loaf of bread and a demoralized country both angry with its present government and in need of restored dignity voted in someone as much to rebel against the past as to move toward the future. We are going to get Obama or so it looks like and a Democratic Congress. The last time we had this was Jimmy Carter and inflation. I think is too serious to ignore and warn those who have an I.Q. over 5 that we are headed for hyper inflation and a lifestyle based on cash, which translates into all those who have every owned anything on credit have lived their last days of illusion. For the next decades, yes decades, life in America is going to change. GM will not survive on its own but need to partner up. I seriously doubt if the Corvette has much more life. Maybe, and ironically, at the end of the day, paying a premium for a ZR1 is a good deal given how production may very well have to be halted and fewer will be produced. It may be very close to last vette made. GM's stock value rivals the 1920's and will need an infusion of money just to stay alive. Its priorities will have to be electric and energy efficient cars or they have no chance at all. Best

christopher04z06

No political BS...then that last statement...
Under W conservatives got their way and now we are all living with big government, massive debt, failed financial institutions w no regulations, and infringment on habeas corpus to protect individual rights. I guess some value keeping their $ and guns and others value keeping legal rights and speech.

Gosh, lets keep to cars! The Corvette is a great car. I do hope GM ups the ante for more technology in the future - great platform when C5 came out, and evolved nicely, but its had no major technology infusion since. A smaller lighter Vette, maybe V6 turbo - would be awesome. Think Elise with way more power.

34RedRage

just heard on fox news this morning that gm and Chrysler are negotiating a merger

gonbad

I am an Oil Trader and a Corvette owner.

I have a strong opinion that GM's days are numbered. Once people saw what oil prices can do then the days of every soccer mom having a Suburban or Tahoe and every Tom, Dick or Larry having a Truck with like 12 mpg city their business model, and that of Ford and Chrysler was going to hit the fan.

As soon as I started seeing oil futures trending upwards then braking the $100/bbl I started shorting Gm's and Ford's stock. It was a very good bet.

Now as it stands GM has only enough cash to keep operating through about the end of the 1st qtr 2009. After that unless they get help or suddenly the market for auto's turns around they are done. I think strongly that they are probably better off entering bankruptcy. It will allow them to shed plants, suppliers, workers, dealerships and probably brands and come out much leaner and probably have such a competitive advantage over Ford and Chrysler that they would be forced to follow them into bankruptcy. Glad I am not an investor in Cerebus, owners of Chrysler.

There has been talk of GM buying/merging with Chrylser. The only reason to do this is to access Chrysler's cash which is in a better position than GM's cash. However this is only a stop gap measure to delay probable bankruptcy until maybe 4th qtr 2009. It leaves them with the same problems. Too many brands, too much U.S. plant capacity, too many dealers and too many workers. It would in the long run only benefit Cerebus and get them out the jamb I think they see themselves as being in now. The plus of this is if GM/Chrysler merged and did enter bankruptcy it is an even bigger opportunity to reduce brands, dealers and capacity in the U.S. auto industry.

I think it is very likely that you will see only 2 major manufacturers of auto's in the U.S. by 2010. Most likely Ford and GM. If the feds don't bail them out probably as much smaller and more competitive companies. I think it is a strong possibility that if Chrysler goes into bankruptcy it probably won't come back out as Chrysler. The only brand they have that is really worth anything is Jeep and I could see a foreign buyer coming in and saving that. I doubt the U.S. companies will be able to manage it.

Now if the Feds decide to bail out the individual companies I see Chrysler again being in trouble. It's privately held by a venture capital / Hedge Fund and the public is going to have a fit using tax money to bail out a private company. Now it would be easier for the Feds to offer a blanket package to the whole industry including suppliers. I see that as the most likely approach.

Final thought. I think the U.S. would be better off in the long run if we saw a significant contraction of the U.S. auto industry including suppliers and dealers. I don't think we should be using tax payer money to bail them out even if it is in the form of loans. Let them die and be reborn or go to dust. Make them smaller and more competitive in the world market.

~Josh

Yeah, but when he chooses one (or two) Supreme Court judge(s) to replace ones that are up for retirement.... we'll have SERIOUS issues for possibly decades!


I'm honestly worried for America as it is with McCain..... I'm flat out scared with obama.


I wish I could buy a new Chevy Volt for $30k (my max budget) but I hear they will cost much more. C'mon GM!! I'm pulling for ya!

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