Stelios

i posted o topic about a faulty clutch a few days ago mayb you should try finding it and reading that before you read this. topic title "european dealers totally unrealiable".

AFTER TAKING THE CAR APART YESTERDAY, WE WERE AMAZED TO REALISE THAT THE CLUTCH HAD BEEN PLACED ON THE FLYWHEEL UPSIDE DOWN WITH THE LETTERS "FLYWHEEL SIDE" FACING THE PRESSURE DISK INSTEAD OF THE OPPOSITE....

IT WASNT THE DEALRS FAULT, IT WASNT THE GUYS THAT SENT THE CAR AND COULD HAVE BURNED THE CLUTCH WILL TRYING TO GET IT ON THE TRUCK. IT WAS THE FACTORYS FAULT!!!!!!!!!

SOMEHOW THEY INSTALLED THE CLUTCH UPSIDE DOWN AND THEN MADE THE SLAVE CYLINDER ACTUALLY WORK WITH IT ENOUGH TO MOVE THE CAR.

CAN SOMEONE, ANYONE EXPLAIN HOW THIS COULD HAVE HAPPEND, HAS THIS EVER HAPPENED BEFORE, HOW CAN SOMEONE INSTALL THE CLUTCH LIKE THAT FROM FACTORY??????

rustyguns

monday morning hangover car...happens

Vindication

or a late friday afternoon already got smashed at lunch car.

Bills Z06

1-2-b-67L89

In mfg. one tries to make things "idiot proof" which no way refers to the intelligence of assemblers. The issue is and will always be when an assembly process utilizes the brain process to determine the front or back of something there will be mistakes along the way. They should be next to nothing, but it will happen. Hence why things are designed both in blueprint and process to only be assembled one way, cannot go on backwards or types of process design like "jidoka" (sp?) that utilizes a process to have brains. Example, a power steering pump had a part that the assembler had to place into the assembly and it could go on either way. Well over a 100,000 of these rascals are built each year and guess what, there was a small amount that were assembled incorrect. Sound familiar to your clutch issue. Well they used a form of Jidoka where immedialely after assembly it went to a station with a camera which looked to see if the part was assembled correct. If OK, ps pump assy moved on, if not assembled correct, an alarm went off and defective part had to be placed in another special area so the designed process of jidoka knew the defective pump (part that had been installed backwards) had been removed and placed in the to repair area. What seems like the real mishap is that final inspection of running the car and do believe they make a shift did not catch the clutch issue as that is computer based and it makes the decision, not operator. Really, another form of Jidoka, where as the machine or process has the brains and makes decisions. Should it have happened, no, but can! Should it have been caught during final computer testing, would believe yes, and very strange it was not.
Happy 4th everyone,

Chick

Glennm27

I am one of them..............

TRR

Hard to believe.

TRR

DAKING

just like a lawn mower blade, grass side down. maybe

exukboy

I guess it wouldn't be the first time I put my DVD in upside down

petefias

Why some people try to make excuses for this? There is none!

Makes you wonder what else is installed backwards and upside down.

426 Hemi

RoHo

That is funny

SABER Racing

TAILWAG

427Z0SX

That's sexist!

NocarbutaVetteforme

That is funny no matter how many times I look at it. IN fact as I scrolled through I laughed everytime I saw it.

Gary Wells

I would not necessarily blame the factory just yet, as you stated in your previous post regarding this issue that the car has 9 miles on it. It seems to me more likely that somebody broke something testing the car, or maybe somebody did burn the clutch enough loading the car that they tried to repair it themselves. By any chance did you or your dealer determine if there was any evidence to indicate that the clutch had been apart. What did the bolt heads look like?

Gary Wells

Fwiw, The Japanese term "Poka Yoka" basically defines mistake proofing, or idiot proofing, and the Japanese term "Jikoda" primarily defines not letting a mistake, such as on a part, or a defective part or process go to the next work station or continue through the work process. Lean Manufacturing principles, I believe, as generally taught in the Japanese philosophy of "Gemba Kaizen", of which Toyota is considered to be one of the "movers and shakers" or leaders in this process improvement.
HTH and sorry to break the continuity or train of thought in this thread.

ZL-1

I recall you said it took 5 weeks to get the car to Romania from Holland. Even with only 9 miles on it, can't help wondering if it may have been being repaired, causing some of that delay. Here in the USA a VIS of warranty claims might show something, but it may not work for export cars.

VRZ06

LOL.... GM Union Steward