[Z06] Very very disappointed...please comment
#81
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The dealer that did the work definately knew about it. The dealer that sold it to you should have known about it. The GM computer system (VIS) that shows all the vehicle information shows all the warranty claims to every dealer that looks up that VIN. They are required to check VIS before selling a vehicle to make sure there are no recalls.
When I worked at a dealer, we checked every vehicle on VIS, new or used. They either knew about it or should have known about it.
The other thing that is odd, is a brand new car normally doesn't get major engine work done. Normally they replace the complete engine with an exchange assembly from the plant. That way it is still a new car with a new engine, and the plant gets the engine back complete to determine what was wrong. Back in 06 the LS7 was on exchange, so I don't know why they would have fixed that one. It should have been a complete exchange.
When I worked at a dealer, we checked every vehicle on VIS, new or used. They either knew about it or should have known about it.
The other thing that is odd, is a brand new car normally doesn't get major engine work done. Normally they replace the complete engine with an exchange assembly from the plant. That way it is still a new car with a new engine, and the plant gets the engine back complete to determine what was wrong. Back in 06 the LS7 was on exchange, so I don't know why they would have fixed that one. It should have been a complete exchange.
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I feel your pain. New means new. I lived in Edmonton most of my life and the alocations for Z06 corvettes is very low. I suspect a dealer would take any z offered in a dealer transfer. I suspect that the Halifax dealer was happy to see it go out of province.....and out of mind.
I think however you may want to get the straight goods as a future carfax may hurt your resale. Pull a carfax to see if it shows up and if not, then enjoy the car and the great warranty. Keep in mind however that your mods may affect your coverage.
Where did you get the service report in your first post?
Good luck and keep us posted.
I think however you may want to get the straight goods as a future carfax may hurt your resale. Pull a carfax to see if it shows up and if not, then enjoy the car and the great warranty. Keep in mind however that your mods may affect your coverage.
Where did you get the service report in your first post?
Good luck and keep us posted.
#87
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VIS reports
For all of you interested in info on your car (VIS) please refer to post #83.
Should this kind gentleman be interested in entertaining your request so be it.
I don't wish to overburden him by referring him specifically so shoudl he choose to entertain your requests have at her.
Just be on notice you may NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND
Should this kind gentleman be interested in entertaining your request so be it.
I don't wish to overburden him by referring him specifically so shoudl he choose to entertain your requests have at her.
Just be on notice you may NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND
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GP, I am gonna stay away from the legal aspect, I don't know jack there....but..I could change that piston/rod in 4hrs or less and u would NEVER know I was there. Can u check to see what parts were billed out on the job? Many things are needed, not just fluids and gaskets....if there are no head bolts on the parts ticket... This job is NOT for the average GM tech, and not every dealer has someone who can do this w/o YOUR car being the "test" for some wrench-monkey
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GP, I am gonna stay away from the legal aspect, I don't know jack there....but..I could change that piston/rod in 4hrs or less and u would NEVER know I was there. Can u check to see what parts were billed out on the job? Many things are needed, not just fluids and gaskets....if there are no head bolts on the parts ticket... This job is NOT for the average GM tech, and not every dealer has someone who can do this w/o YOUR car being the "test" for some wrench-monkey
My car is under cover right now and access to the engine bay is not an option (to inspect the heads/bolts) but funny I did notice scuff marks on the top of the passenger fender after I bought the car and had the dealer buff out before I took delivery...clues of the crime ????????
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For $500 bucks I'm sure you could have a lawyer go in with you for an hour (or two) one afternoon. Having a lawyer on your side BEFORE ANY AGREEMENT is made will only benefit your pocket.
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Carfax Report
states nothing what so ever of the incident
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I already spoke to my lawyer ( and a great friend at that). He suggested the courts would find difficulty siding with any claim I may present. Unless I can prove negligence or loss what can I claim for ?
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i appreciate your comments....not certain if any of the repair info can be accessed..by me. I suspect you're implying when the head bolds are initally torqued (stretched) they're garbage and should (must) be replaced?
My car is under cover right now and access to the engine bay is not an option (to inspect the heads/bolts) but funny I did notice scuff marks on the top of the passenger fender after I bought the car and had the dealer buff out before I took delivery...clues of the crime ????????
My car is under cover right now and access to the engine bay is not an option (to inspect the heads/bolts) but funny I did notice scuff marks on the top of the passenger fender after I bought the car and had the dealer buff out before I took delivery...clues of the crime ????????
#95
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i think you are in a tizzy over nothing....pdi is to make sure the vehicle is 100%....items that are not correct get corrected ....the dealer charges gm for the repairs...a car that has needed repairs done is still new...a piston/rod change on the z is a walk in the park.....i know many who are not technicans will say what are you crazy!...but the reality is that repair was nothing more than a nut and bolt operation...and disassemble and reassemble replacing a defective component...you still have the same warranty and if something goes wrong it will be covered...
it really is a NO BIGGY to anyone experienced with dealership operations...
it really is a NO BIGGY to anyone experienced with dealership operations...
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#98
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Sorry to hear that man, I bought a 2007 LB from the same dealership and I am pretty sure I looked at your car many times before you bought it and yes under the hood. It most definitely looked new to me, one thing to think of is you do have warranty and if you have revved it to 7200 rpm x amount a times and it has not blown up yet, you probley have nothing to worry about. My car had 17 miles on it and I was not impressed about that, a young salesman told me that they get to pick the cars up from the railyard and drive them back to the dealership. When I bought my 2002 C5Z it had 1.6 miles on it and was covered in shrinkwrap and big foam bumbers all over it.
#99
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i think you are in a tizzy over nothing....pdi is to make sure the vehicle is 100%....items that are not correct get corrected ....the dealer charges gm for the repairs...a car that has needed repairs done is still new...a piston/rod change on the z is a walk in the park.....i know many who are not technicans will say what are you crazy!...but the reality is that repair was nothing more than a nut and bolt operation...and disassemble and reassemble replacing a defective component...you still have the same warranty and if something goes wrong it will be covered...
it really is a NO BIGGY to anyone experienced with dealership operations...
it really is a NO BIGGY to anyone experienced with dealership operations...
I'm sure those few "good" mechanics would find this a "nut and bolt" operation, and the repair would be no biggie. But, the odds really favor that some monkey who was trying to do the job in 1/4 book time at a reduced hourly rate for warranty work cut every corner possible just to get the job out of the way, and get back to the oil change bay where they can make some easy money. And I sure wouldn't want to chance having my motor that was hand assembled by well trained people being operated on by the first person in the service dept who needed something to do.
As a new car buyer, I'd sure want to know that fact before I made my purchase decision. As a used car buyer, if the car had 30 or 40 thousand trouble free miles, AND the engine showed little to no evidence that Grog had been there, I wouldn't consider that in my purchase decision. And 30 years from now, if I were looking for a "collector" car, I'd be happy that the original engine had not been exchanged. Since the OP bought the car new, I can certainly understand this being an issue..With all the new cars available, personally, if I knew circumstances before I signed on the line, I'd have moved on to the next one. And I think honestly, the vast majority of those who read this forum would do the exact same thing.